Hello, everyone! I was with Derrell Teat in Georgia where we hoped to meet with one of my Hodgens relatives. I am trying to prove that my ancestor, Jacob Hodgens, is from the same family line of John B. Hodgens (an orphan or street urchin) born England 1766 who went to sea at age 7 and landed on our shores in 1785. This family has been researched for 50+ years. We knew he had 3 sons with the oldest being Derrell's line and 3 years ago, we found the youngest son's descendent with DNA. I believe the middle son is my Jacob because he named his eldest son John B. Hodgens and his eldest daughter Mary A. Hodgens, which is John B. Hodgens wife's name. In June of 2004, I telephoned a Hodgens gentleman in Georgia who was a descendent of Jacob Hodgens. He agreed to participate in the Hodgens Surname Y-DNA Project and that I would pay for the Test Kit. When I called him the next day to give him all the particulars, his son answered the phone and told me to never call again regarding the subject of DNA. Derrell and I traveled to Georgia in Feb 2007 just to meet with the Hodgens gentleman, to give him a copy of the Hodgens family book and copies of all Hodgens documents I have collected. And, if he did not want to participate, maybe he could refer us to another male family member who might agree to be tested. He had told me that he met some of his friends at McDonald's for breakfast every morning. Derrell and I discussed this and hoped to meet with him at McDonald's (without his son), but this never happened. In fact, we never visited that McDonald's while we were in Georgia. But quite honestly, if the possibility of getting his coffee cup arrived, Derrell was going to take it from the garbage receptacle! She had researched whether this was illegal or not and found out that once it lands in the garbage receptacle, it is no longer considered his property. He refused to meet with us, but referred us to his sister and brother-in-law. His brother-in-law was very open to all we had to say and agreed to discuss this with his Hodgens relatives and to give them the Hodgens book and the documents. The Hodgens family is having a large reunion in July, and how great would it be to have descendants of all THREE sons represented! To this day, the Hodgens gentleman has never said that he would not be tested. Of course, we are hoping if not him, then some other male Hodgens will step forward to be tested. Derrell Teat never said that we were "stalking" this Hodgens gentleman. I was shocked when I read the Hodgens portion of the NY Times article! This is why Derrell and I wanted to read our portion of the article before it was published. To say that I am disappointed is an understatement. This article portrays us as "vultures" trying to get DNA in any underhanded way possible. This was not the fault of Amy Harmon, so no blame should be directed to her. The blame lies with the copy editor who's job is to make the stories sensational so that they sell newspapers. And I'm also disappointed that some of our fellow DNA project admins criticized us before they knew the whole story, and they might still do so. But quite honestly, we do not believe that anyone of us has the right to criticize or tell another admin that they are wrong. Each of us has our own ways and beliefs on what is right for our projects. I believe that none of us would intentionally hurt the DNA community and would have liked that same attitude felt toward us. We have only received positive responses from friends, family, project members and, surprisingly, the most support has come from complete strangers. Best regards to all, Candy Campise ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I am amazed at the notions that are out there surrounding DNA. My brother had about decided to do the cheek scrape then somebody told him they had their identity stolen after submitting a sample. He is fairly well-educated and of normal intelligence but he bought that and he won't open his mouth for me. I told him we don't even need to reveal his name but he ain't buying. If I could get his coffee cup, I'd do it in a heartbeat! MWF -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CandyTree@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:43 PM To: VAROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] The New York Times article Hello, everyone! I was with Derrell Teat in Georgia where we hoped to meet with one of my Hodgens relatives. I am trying to prove that my ancestor, Jacob Hodgens, is from the same family line of John B. Hodgens (an orphan or street urchin) born England 1766 who went to sea at age 7 and landed on our shores in 1785. This family has been researched for 50+ years. We knew he had 3 sons with the oldest being Derrell's line and 3 years ago, we found the youngest son's descendent with DNA. I believe the middle son is my Jacob because he named his eldest son John B. Hodgens and his eldest daughter Mary A. Hodgens, which is John B. Hodgens wife's name. In June of 2004, I telephoned a Hodgens gentleman in Georgia who was a descendent of Jacob Hodgens. He agreed to participate in the Hodgens Surname Y-DNA Project and that I would pay for the Test Kit. When I called him the next day to give him all the particulars, his son answered the phone and told me to never call again regarding the subject of DNA. Derrell and I traveled to Georgia in Feb 2007 just to meet with the Hodgens gentleman, to give him a copy of the Hodgens family book and copies of all Hodgens documents I have collected. And, if he did not want to participate, maybe he could refer us to another male family member who might agree to be tested. He had told me that he met some of his friends at McDonald's for breakfast every morning. Derrell and I discussed this and hoped to meet with him at McDonald's (without his son), but this never happened. In fact, we never visited that McDonald's while we were in Georgia. But quite honestly, if the possibility of getting his coffee cup arrived, Derrell was going to take it from the garbage receptacle! She had researched whether this was illegal or not and found out that once it lands in the garbage receptacle, it is no longer considered his property. He refused to meet with us, but referred us to his sister and brother-in-law. His brother-in-law was very open to all we had to say and agreed to discuss this with his Hodgens relatives and to give them the Hodgens book and the documents. The Hodgens family is having a large reunion in July, and how great would it be to have descendants of all THREE sons represented! To this day, the Hodgens gentleman has never said that he would not be tested. Of course, we are hoping if not him, then some other male Hodgens will step forward to be tested. Derrell Teat never said that we were "stalking" this Hodgens gentleman. I was shocked when I read the Hodgens portion of the NY Times article! This is why Derrell and I wanted to read our portion of the article before it was published. To say that I am disappointed is an understatement. This article portrays us as "vultures" trying to get DNA in any underhanded way possible. This was not the fault of Amy Harmon, so no blame should be directed to her. The blame lies with the copy editor who's job is to make the stories sensational so that they sell newspapers. And I'm also disappointed that some of our fellow DNA project admins criticized us before they knew the whole story, and they might still do so. But quite honestly, we do not believe that anyone of us has the right to criticize or tell another admin that they are wrong. Each of us has our own ways and beliefs on what is right for our projects. I believe that none of us would intentionally hurt the DNA community and would have liked that same attitude felt toward us. We have only received positive responses from friends, family, project members and, surprisingly, the most support has come from complete strangers. Best regards to all, Candy Campise ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One of the major problems with the world today is that we have to many people who will do anything to get what ever it is they want. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mildred Fournier To: varoots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] The New York Times article I am amazed at the notions that are out there surrounding DNA. My brother had about decided to do the cheek scrape then somebody told him they had their identity stolen after submitting a sample. He is fairly well-educated and of normal intelligence but he bought that and he won't open his mouth for me. I told him we don't even need to reveal his name but he ain't buying. If I could get his coffee cup, I'd do it in a heartbeat! MWF -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CandyTree@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:43 PM To: VAROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] The New York Times article Hello, everyone! I was with Derrell Teat in Georgia where we hoped to meet with one of my Hodgens relatives. I am trying to prove that my ancestor, Jacob Hodgens, is from the same family line of John B. Hodgens (an orphan or street urchin) born England 1766 who went to sea at age 7 and landed on our shores in 1785. This family has been researched for 50+ years. We knew he had 3 sons with the oldest being Derrell's line and 3 years ago, we found the youngest son's descendent with DNA. I believe the middle son is my Jacob because he named his eldest son John B. Hodgens and his eldest daughter Mary A. Hodgens, which is John B. Hodgens wife's name. In June of 2004, I telephoned a Hodgens gentleman in Georgia who was a descendent of Jacob Hodgens. He agreed to participate in the Hodgens Surname Y-DNA Project and that I would pay for the Test Kit. When I called him the next day to give him all the particulars, his son answered the phone and told me to never call again regarding the subject of DNA. Derrell and I traveled to Georgia in Feb 2007 just to meet with the Hodgens gentleman, to give him a copy of the Hodgens family book and copies of all Hodgens documents I have collected. And, if he did not want to participate, maybe he could refer us to another male family member who might agree to be tested. He had told me that he met some of his friends at McDonald's for breakfast every morning. Derrell and I discussed this and hoped to meet with him at McDonald's (without his son), but this never happened. In fact, we never visited that McDonald's while we were in Georgia. But quite honestly, if the possibility of getting his coffee cup arrived, Derrell was going to take it from the garbage receptacle! She had researched whether this was illegal or not and found out that once it lands in the garbage receptacle, it is no longer considered his property. He refused to meet with us, but referred us to his sister and brother-in-law. His brother-in-law was very open to all we had to say and agreed to discuss this with his Hodgens relatives and to give them the Hodgens book and the documents. The Hodgens family is having a large reunion in July, and how great would it be to have descendants of all THREE sons represented! To this day, the Hodgens gentleman has never said that he would not be tested. Of course, we are hoping if not him, then some other male Hodgens will step forward to be tested. Derrell Teat never said that we were "stalking" this Hodgens gentleman. I was shocked when I read the Hodgens portion of the NY Times article! This is why Derrell and I wanted to read our portion of the article before it was published. To say that I am disappointed is an understatement. This article portrays us as "vultures" trying to get DNA in any underhanded way possible. This was not the fault of Amy Harmon, so no blame should be directed to her. The blame lies with the copy editor who's job is to make the stories sensational so that they sell newspapers. And I'm also disappointed that some of our fellow DNA project admins criticized us before they knew the whole story, and they might still do so. But quite honestly, we do not believe that anyone of us has the right to criticize or tell another admin that they are wrong. Each of us has our own ways and beliefs on what is right for our projects. I believe that none of us would intentionally hurt the DNA community and would have liked that same attitude felt toward us. We have only received positive responses from friends, family, project members and, surprisingly, the most support has come from complete strangers. Best regards to all, Candy Campise ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message