Peggy - you forgot to tell them ... it's highly suggested that one selects to keeps their "yahoo profile" PRIVATE ... no matter how much info they elect to provide in it :) that will keep the spammers / smut messages "girls of the evening and what not" from contacting you ... that way only subscriber's of which ever yahoogroup one joins, are the only ones that can view anothers profile within the same group :) Of the 7 yahoogroups that I am the owner/moderator of ... I suggest that everyone to set up a "yahoo profile" ... in one group we have over 1,300 members and I can't tell you how many times we get people who say they can't access the groups archive of messages and/or other important items listed in the left hand column of the groups homepage ... yep without the yahoo profile set up ... you won't be able to access those things "/ For those that I might have side tracked in my earlier posting to help Pat ... saying yahoo.com ... it should be "groups [dot] yahoo [dot] com" then click on the "Sign In" to access the log-in screen :) Ken - hdpth-DNA