guys first name is BONNEY............. found it a couple of paragraphs later. thanks k now i'm really thinking it's like judges because that's the 'IDEA" given in the paragraph oh and i need help with BON? ANY clue as to the first name? see first email for further explainations 1. malachy thurston 2. mr. william cornick 3. MR. BON burrough 4. mr. john landford kristina ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour