I saw and read this article myself, but do not understand how you can trace DNA back generations, when the legal system has not been doing it for that many years themselves.??!! The article turned my stomach, and I do not approve of doing genealogy this way, personally I thought that the individuals thoughts, actions and behavior were rather on both the illegal side, and rather foolish, self-centered and filled self pride. However, then again I do not understand seeking her families genealogy this way. I enjoy doing it the old way, although I often want to pull my hair out when I fine that I have to start over again. A hobby is a hobby, and I have become a family historian because of my families desire to know their genealogical heritage. I also have found that while doing all four of my grandparents genealogy that I have learned more about American History and World History than I ever dreamed existed. I would not change my methods of search, hunt, and discovery in almost any way. I have met through Cyberspace so many of my cousins and other relatives that I would not have met otherwise, and this alone is a great treasure to me. Part of my family stayed in the northern states and my part of paternal side came south, although they later went back north, then part of them returned to Texas and other states close by. To me genealogy is much more than just names, dates and places. It is the getting a somewhat idea of what my ancestors suffered in helping to build this wonderful country and came to while America while it was still just colonies. They have fought and some have died to defend this country that I am proud to call home (although I have now discovered more of the good, bad and ugly about it), but I will still stand up and fight to keep it as it is and hopefully help improve it for my grandchildren and their grandchildren who will sooner or later take their stand as our nation's future leaders. I would not have gained a new insight and pride in this country or my family if I had not searched out my heritage with blood, sweat and tears. I have used the Internet for a starting place, then went to the Archives to try and prove or disprove what I found on the WWW. I think that many of the old ways of doing things are much better than the new and so called improved methods, but that is simply my opinion. However, this is a free country filled with a variety of people and we have the right to seek our own ways and methods as long as they are legal. We have the right to criticize, but we do not have the right to condemn others for their legal methods. As far as the article mentioned, it is my opinion that the individual became a stalker for their own needs and wants, which is to me illegal. However, that is my opinion and that does not make the other person wrong and me correct. If the person they were stalking decides they want to take action against them that is their right too. For me progress is not progress or legal when it is done improperly, but that is simply my opinion. Now lets get back to the business at hand, and discover our genealogy, and hopefully meet more of our previously unknown relatives. I also wish to state that I have made new friends while searching my genealogy, an while I may not meet them personally, they are very precious to me, and would like to meet them. Kenny Hedgpeth <hdpth@earthlink.net> wrote: not sure I understand your comment especially when it looks like a reply to something that was posted on a different List and/or Group ? ? ? ? but then again this could be a typical response from a few who don't know the whole story ... nor how newspapers are run / managed ... I got to see this same article in the Fresno Bee [CA news paper] and there are parts in there, that the NY paper cut out of the original article ... The California newspaper did not even use the same title "header" for this article :) so the moral is to only believe half of what you read ... and then question at least half of the rest :) Ken - hdpth-DNA > [Original Message] > From: Erin T. Crowe > To: > Date: 4/6/2007 8:36:36 PM > Subject: [VAROOTS] NYT article that makes genealogists look like predators... > > If it were me, I would be a tad upset if they had painted me in that light. > Sincerely, > > Erin T. Crowe IBSSG > Let my kisses fall, > Upon your starry eyes, > The windows of your soul, > Where all true beauty lies. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Scism" > To: ; > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 5:10 PM > Subject: [BS] NYT article that makes genealogists look like predators... > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/us/02dna.html?ex=1333166400&en=9b7a067701f 2c8ab&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BLACKSHEEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. 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not sure I understand your comment especially when it looks like a reply to something that was posted on a different List and/or Group ? ? ? ? but then again this could be a typical response from a few who don't know the whole story ... nor how newspapers are run / managed ... I got to see this same article in the Fresno Bee [CA news paper] and there are parts in there, that the NY paper cut out of the original article ... The California newspaper did not even use the same title "header" for this article :) so the moral is to only believe half of what you read ... and then question at least half of the rest :) Ken - hdpth-DNA > [Original Message] > From: Erin T. Crowe <poetrywaif@ca.rr.com> > To: <varoots@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/6/2007 8:36:36 PM > Subject: [VAROOTS] NYT article that makes genealogists look like predators... > > If it were me, I would be a tad upset if they had painted me in that light. > Sincerely, > > Erin T. Crowe IBSSG > Let my kisses fall, > Upon your starry eyes, > The windows of your soul, > Where all true beauty lies. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Scism" <scismgenie@roadrunner.com> > To: <candyman@yahoo.groups.com>; <blacksheep@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 5:10 PM > Subject: [BS] NYT article that makes genealogists look like predators... > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/us/02dna.html?ex=1333166400&en=9b7a067701f 2c8ab&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BLACKSHEEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If it were me, I would be a tad upset if they had painted me in that light. Sincerely, Erin T. Crowe IBSSG Let my kisses fall, Upon your starry eyes, The windows of your soul, Where all true beauty lies. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Scism" <scismgenie@roadrunner.com> To: <candyman@yahoo.groups.com>; <blacksheep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 5:10 PM Subject: [BS] NYT article that makes genealogists look like predators... > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/us/02dna.html?ex=1333166400&en=9b7a067701f2c8ab&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BLACKSHEEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alan, Is the book an dwebsite only about the Huguenot Emigration? I ask because I am looking for my Jones family who is either from France or England. Thank You, Liz Alan Buckingham <a.d.buckingham@verizon.net> wrote: Hello All, I've added 20 more pages to the book "Collections of the Virginia Historical Society Vol. V: The Huguenot Emigration". The first 60 pages are online now at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Abernathy and related families -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 3:33 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.

Hello All, I've added 20 more pages to the book "Collections of the Virginia Historical Society Vol. V: The Huguenot Emigration". The first 60 pages are online now at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Abernathy and related families -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 3:33 PM

Interesting, Kenny. Thanks for spotting it and sending it to us. Carolyn HALE BRUCE Co-author, Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots Rebel King, The Har'ships and Rebel King, Bannok Burn See all the books we publish at: www.bruceandbruceinc.com (Angus MacKilt shirts, too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny Hedgpeth" <hdpth@earthlink.net> To: <varoots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:14 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] an interesting article in todays New York Times ... Howdy VA Rooter's - I thought some of you, who might be having problem with your family research, might be interested in the subject matter of this article ... from the front page http://www.nytimes.com/ The DNA Age Stalking Strangers' DNA to Fill in the Family Tree By AMY HARMON Published: April 2, 2007 Inexpensive genetic testing is turning the once-staid pursuit of genealogy into an extreme sport. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/us/02dna.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp --------------------------------------------------- to use a line in Kimberly Powell's - About: genealogy ... http://genealogy.about.com/b/a/255942.htm?nl=1 "What lengths would you go (or have you gone) to pad your pedigree?" --------------------------------------------------- Ken - hdpth-DNA in search of any and all H*D*P*TH's in VA and worldwide ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Howdy VA Rooter's - I thought some of you, who might be having problem with your family research, might be interested in the subject matter of this article ... from the front page http://www.nytimes.com/ The DNA Age Stalking Strangers� DNA to Fill in the Family Tree By AMY HARMON Published: April 2, 2007 Inexpensive genetic testing is turning the once-staid pursuit of genealogy into an extreme sport. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/us/02dna.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp --------------------------------------------------- to use a line in Kimberly Powell's - About: genealogy ... http://genealogy.about.com/b/a/255942.htm?nl=1 "What lengths would you go (or have you gone) to pad your pedigree?" --------------------------------------------------- Ken - hdpth-DNA in search of any and all H*D*P*TH's in VA and worldwide !

Can someone send me the link again? thanks, Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: <EllieSS@aol.com> To: <varoots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Huguenot Emigration > > In a message dated 4/1/2007 8:12:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > dotwhite@comcast.net writes: > > You will just have to read what is in the book, Christine. Most of them > are > French but some English names appear, too. There are so many I would not > be > able to give them all here. > > Read it. It is most interesting. > > Dorothy White > > > It is truly interesting... I am anxious to see where my MAUPINs come > in... > Huguenots that left France, went to Holland, then to England and finally > took > a ship to America and arrived in 1700. > > Thanks! > Ellie > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There seems to be a misunderstanding here, actually 2 of them. 1/ The Jamestown article 2/ Who is the List Mom I have answers for both of them, 1/ The Jamestown article was a mistake 2/ I'm the List Mom therefore I make the decisions and direct the list. There is only 3 list rules set in stone: 1) Do Not critize another list member on the list 2) Stay on Topic..VAROOTS 3) HARMONY Be polite! No one is perfect and not everyone will take the time to use common netiquette, but that doesn't mean you have a right to tell them what to do. If you have a problem with a list member, write VAROOTS-admin@Rootsweb.com and let the list mom decide what to do. You have no right telling fellow list members what to do or not to do! If you can't abide by these few rules...then please unsubscribe yourself and save me the trouble!! If someone posts a message to the list that should not have been posted, please just delete it. When you post your unhappiness, then you just continue the problem. I know it is hard but for the sake of the list, please just delete it. As of this moment this subject is closed for list discussion, Derrell Oakley Teat, List Mom -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/741 - Release Date: 3/31/2007 8:54 PM

In a message dated 4/1/2007 8:12:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dotwhite@comcast.net writes: You will just have to read what is in the book, Christine. Most of them are French but some English names appear, too. There are so many I would not be able to give them all here. Read it. It is most interesting. Dorothy White It is truly interesting... I am anxious to see where my MAUPINs come in... Huguenots that left France, went to Holland, then to England and finally took a ship to America and arrived in 1700. Thanks! Ellie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

You will just have to read what is in the book, Christine. Most of them are French but some English names appear, too. There are so many I would not be able to give them all here. Read it. It is most interesting. Dorothy White

What families tie into this Huguenot emigration? I must have missed it. thanks, Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy C. White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> To: <varoots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Huguenot Emigration > This is exciting. I read every word and I thank you for going to the > trouble so we could read this. > > Dorothy White > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Alan, this opens some avenues to my ancestors I had not been able to find before now. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121

This is exciting. I read every word and I thank you for going to the trouble so we could read this. Dorothy White

In a message dated 4/1/2007 4:11:39 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, EllieSS@aol.com writes: This book sounds exciting.. I read a lot of it and I am Amer VIA came??? Ellie Stites Swanger For some reason part of my post didn't come through... Will do this again! "This book sounds exciting. I read a lot of it. Can't wait to see the rest! I think my Maupins (Maupines, etc.) came over in late 1700 but I'm not sure when Amer Via came? " Thanks, Ellie Stites Swanger ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 4/1/2007 11:30:41 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, a.d.buckingham@verizon.net writes: I've started adding a new book to the collection for everyone's use. This one is titled "Collections of the Virginia Historical Society Vol. V: The Huguenot Emigration". The first 40 pages are online now at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com This book sounds exciting.. I read a lot of it and I am Amer VIA came??? Ellie Stites Swanger ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

The recent suggestion to read a political columnist's article about Jamestown shocked me. Curious that it would be suggested, I did read it. This article was not informative nor was it about Jamestown! It was a political name-calling by a political columnist that has an 'agenda'. She was using Jamestown to make HER political point. Politics have absolutely no place on a genealogy website unless it directly relates to our common interest. Those exceptions could be, as examples; the recent rate change at NARA or the online link to the JAMESTOWN website-(that is fantastic in its anniversary exhibits) or funding levels at the VA State Library that could have an effect on our research. If you want articles there have been several great articles in Nat Geo, Science, Scientific American, and Archaeology magazines concerning early Virginia, its lost colony, artifacts, and DNA. These are of scientific interest and written by experts that are in, or cover those fields. Heck, I'm not even sure those articles belong on this board. Maybe the archaeological board is a better place for them. I realize this suggestion came online innocently. If you want to talk politics take it offline or to the political forum. It does not belong here. The members of this board are politically, ethnically, economically, racially, geographically, and religiously diverse. Our common interest is Virginia and its genealogy. Please keep it that way.

Hello All, I've started adding a new book to the collection for everyone's use. This one is titled "Collections of the Virginia Historical Society Vol. V: The Huguenot Emigration". The first 40 pages are online now at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Abernathy and related families -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/741 - Release Date: 3/31/2007 8:54 PM

Christine, Scroll down til you see a columnist named Mona Charen. Click on that to find the article. Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "cristy" <poppy0206@earthlink.net> To: <varoots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Article on Jamestown I did not see the article though, where is it? Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy C. White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> To: <varoots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Article on Jamestown >A lot of good information found here. Thanks for sending this. > > Dorothy C. White > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I did not see the article though, where is it? Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy C. White" <dotwhite@comcast.net> To: <varoots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Article on Jamestown >A lot of good information found here. Thanks for sending this. > > Dorothy C. White > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message