Can someone tell me where Harrison's Landing is in VA? I just found a record in the Civil War database of someone who died there in 1862, and I've never heard of it. What county or town would it be in? Thanks. Kathy Campbell Jacksonville, FL

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Interesting thread--Don't you have to get the root of the hair to be able to use it? Us old folks have few enough left as it is<grin> Doug ---- Original Message ---- From: tglover@knology.net To: varoots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] NYT article that makes genealogists look likepredators... The opinions given on this list a few days ago regarding using DNA for genealogy, prompted by the NYT article, was interesting to say the least. Just last week I received the results from FTDNA that gave me the answer to a question regarding a relationship that could not be answered in any exsisting records after 16 years of searching. Previously, DNA testing had also elimated about 70 lines of Stewart/Stuart families in VA and NC which would have probably taken me several lifetimes to research. DNA to me is the best thing since sliced bread to separate out common surnames as long as it is used in conjunction with a well researched paper trail. The sentence about the hair interested me, can one of you tell me if FTDNA accepts a piece of hair to run the test and if so, do you use the vials in their kit or just how does that work? You know, for really old folks, that would be easier than asking them to swab their cheeks. ---- of course, I would ask their permission : -) Thanks to anyone who knows the answer. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The opinions given on this list a few days ago regarding using DNA for genealogy, prompted by the NYT article, was interesting to say the least. Just last week I received the results from FTDNA that gave me the answer to a question regarding a relationship that could not be answered in any exsisting records after 16 years of searching. Previously, DNA testing had also elimated about 70 lines of Stewart/Stuart families in VA and NC which would have probably taken me several lifetimes to research. DNA to me is the best thing since sliced bread to separate out common surnames as long as it is used in conjunction with a well researched paper trail. The sentence about the hair interested me, can one of you tell me if FTDNA accepts a piece of hair to run the test and if so, do you use the vials in their kit or just how does that work? You know, for really old folks, that would be easier than asking them to swab their cheeks. ---- of course, I would ask their permission : -) Thanks to anyone who knows the answer.

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Adding to what Emaress Nova wrote: Wards Road does connect with Route 29 and the "Wards Road" designation is carried through in addresses all the way down Route 29 until one reaches Altavista, Va. I live just off Route 29 in Campbell Co.outside of Altavista, and nearby there is a road named Mansion Bridge Road. My husband, who is from this area says that there used to be an old home called "The Mansion" which accounts for the road's name. Continuing down 29 S, the next small town is Hurt, then Gretna, then Chatam, just place the towns. I do hope Jones Memorial helps you. If, for some reason they can't, let me know and I will make a trip to our local library here in Altavista and the one in nearby Rustburg. Good Luck and Happy Easter, Brenda in Altavista _bbooker955@aol.com_ (mailto:bbooker955@aol.com) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

From: Mildred Fournier To: varoots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] The New York Times article I am amazed at the notions that are out there surrounding DNA. My brother had about decided to do the cheek scrape then somebody told him they had their identity stolen after submitting a sample. He is fairly well-educated and of normal intelligence but he bought that and he won't open his mouth for me. I told him we don't even need to reveal his name but he ain't buying. If I could get his coffee cup, I'd do it in a heartbeat! MWF ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mildred: I had my laugh for the day with your email above.. sounds like a stubborn brother.. My brother has offered his "cheek" for the STITES family research and I don't want to him to hear what your brother heard, not yet anyway.. that's not good!!! Ellie (Stites) Swanger (A Wright researcher among others) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Better check their website for their hours. I don't think they open until 1:00PM They are independent of the public library which is on the first floor. Doug ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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April The Mansion stood along the north side of the Staunton (James) River. Closest thing to it now would be Altavista (Campbell Co VA) or Hurt (Pittsylvania Co VA). One of my great grandmothers married John Ward as his second wife and his first wife, Ann Chiles, is also related. As far as I can tell, there is a house near where it stood and I've tried to find the cemetery, without luck. I"ve been told that the Mansion burned, some time after John Ward died, and he was older than normal when he died. IF my dates are even close, he died between 110 and 113 years old. I know there were newspaper articles written at the time of "His very advanced" age. I know he died in 1816, and by several depositions, he claimed to have been born about 1703, which makes him 113. While not impossible, seems improbable. They say the cemetery remains, as does one for the "Pocket" farm, just across the river, owned at various times by Smith's, Haley's, Snow's and Jackson's. Raleigh Jackson sold the "Pocket" into various parts between 1920 and 1930. John Ward's Mansion house was just to the east of the Pocket. There is a road named "Mansion house Rd" now that runs by it and a home there, but as far as I know, not the original. The original home of the "Pocket Farm" a large brick mansion house, also burned in the 1920's. The old cemetery was said to have been in its front yard, yet the Snow/Jackson Cemetery is now located just opposite Pocket Rd (Pittsylvania Co) to where the highway department moved the Haley house in which Raliegh Jackson lived through 1930, when they rerouted old 29 to the new highway. IF you can find a good gazetteer, it should show Mansion House Rd and Mansion House Bridge, unless they've changed the names of late. I haven't been there for about 4 years. How or why are you looking for this building. I MAY Have an old picture or article about it with a drawing if I can locate it. Karen -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of freedbyluvv Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:01 PM To: varoots@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] searching for "The Mansion"---John Ward, 1820's Hello list, I am wondering if anyone here knows more about a historic home in Campbell Co., Va. previously owned by John Ward c.1820's. I am searching for any drawings/images of the place commonly known as "The Mansion" among then-locals. John Ward also owned hundreds of acres in neighboring Pittsylvania Co. Va. that he named Ward's Springs, a.k.a. Sulpher Springs. He also ran a place called Ward's Tavern on his land where the current town of Gretna now sits, a few miles north of Chatham. I am not sure which city "The Mansion" (as the home was called) in Campbell Co. was located, that is the obstacle I am facing trying to locate it. Thank you in advance for any help you can provide, or suggestions you can point me to. Thanks, April. --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One of the major problems with the world today is that we have to many people who will do anything to get what ever it is they want. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mildred Fournier To: varoots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] The New York Times article I am amazed at the notions that are out there surrounding DNA. My brother had about decided to do the cheek scrape then somebody told him they had their identity stolen after submitting a sample. He is fairly well-educated and of normal intelligence but he bought that and he won't open his mouth for me. I told him we don't even need to reveal his name but he ain't buying. If I could get his coffee cup, I'd do it in a heartbeat! MWF -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CandyTree@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:43 PM To: VAROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] The New York Times article Hello, everyone! I was with Derrell Teat in Georgia where we hoped to meet with one of my Hodgens relatives. I am trying to prove that my ancestor, Jacob Hodgens, is from the same family line of John B. Hodgens (an orphan or street urchin) born England 1766 who went to sea at age 7 and landed on our shores in 1785. This family has been researched for 50+ years. We knew he had 3 sons with the oldest being Derrell's line and 3 years ago, we found the youngest son's descendent with DNA. I believe the middle son is my Jacob because he named his eldest son John B. Hodgens and his eldest daughter Mary A. Hodgens, which is John B. Hodgens wife's name. In June of 2004, I telephoned a Hodgens gentleman in Georgia who was a descendent of Jacob Hodgens. He agreed to participate in the Hodgens Surname Y-DNA Project and that I would pay for the Test Kit. When I called him the next day to give him all the particulars, his son answered the phone and told me to never call again regarding the subject of DNA. Derrell and I traveled to Georgia in Feb 2007 just to meet with the Hodgens gentleman, to give him a copy of the Hodgens family book and copies of all Hodgens documents I have collected. And, if he did not want to participate, maybe he could refer us to another male family member who might agree to be tested. He had told me that he met some of his friends at McDonald's for breakfast every morning. Derrell and I discussed this and hoped to meet with him at McDonald's (without his son), but this never happened. In fact, we never visited that McDonald's while we were in Georgia. But quite honestly, if the possibility of getting his coffee cup arrived, Derrell was going to take it from the garbage receptacle! She had researched whether this was illegal or not and found out that once it lands in the garbage receptacle, it is no longer considered his property. He refused to meet with us, but referred us to his sister and brother-in-law. His brother-in-law was very open to all we had to say and agreed to discuss this with his Hodgens relatives and to give them the Hodgens book and the documents. The Hodgens family is having a large reunion in July, and how great would it be to have descendants of all THREE sons represented! To this day, the Hodgens gentleman has never said that he would not be tested. Of course, we are hoping if not him, then some other male Hodgens will step forward to be tested. Derrell Teat never said that we were "stalking" this Hodgens gentleman. I was shocked when I read the Hodgens portion of the NY Times article! This is why Derrell and I wanted to read our portion of the article before it was published. To say that I am disappointed is an understatement. This article portrays us as "vultures" trying to get DNA in any underhanded way possible. This was not the fault of Amy Harmon, so no blame should be directed to her. The blame lies with the copy editor who's job is to make the stories sensational so that they sell newspapers. And I'm also disappointed that some of our fellow DNA project admins criticized us before they knew the whole story, and they might still do so. But quite honestly, we do not believe that anyone of us has the right to criticize or tell another admin that they are wrong. Each of us has our own ways and beliefs on what is right for our projects. I believe that none of us would intentionally hurt the DNA community and would have liked that same attitude felt toward us. We have only received positive responses from friends, family, project members and, surprisingly, the most support has come from complete strangers. 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My grandfather told me there is a fool born every second, and I try very hard not to fall into that group, but some of the things written here border on the ridiculous. Having said that, I have not seen the New York Times article, and if someone has it please email it to me if you can. I do know having your identity stolen by DNA is about as remote as being hit by a school bus on Mars. John Parrott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <pauldrake@charter.net> To: <varoots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Original N.Y. Times article re:"stalkingfor genealogy" > amen, and when it later is more accurate, it likely will be invaluable to > all of us. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of Mildred Fournier > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:30 PM > To: varoots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Original N.Y. Times article re: "stalkingfor > genealogy" > > > Oh, come on, People, lighten up. I got a real good chuckle out of the > article. > > I have been doing genealogy using "conventional" methods since before > courthouses even had copy machines but I've bought kits for a couple of > male > cousins and made a crack in a couple of brick walls. > > We will NEVER be able to dispense with conventional methods but this is an > exciting new tool that I am more than happy to embrace. Right now I'm > waiting for a chance to steal my brother's toothbrush. ;-). > > Happy Easter! > > > MWF > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 > 9:30 > PM > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 > 9:30 > PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

amen, and when it later is more accurate, it likely will be invaluable to all of us. Paul -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Mildred Fournier Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:30 PM To: varoots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Original N.Y. Times article re: "stalkingfor genealogy" Oh, come on, People, lighten up. I got a real good chuckle out of the article. I have been doing genealogy using "conventional" methods since before courthouses even had copy machines but I've bought kits for a couple of male cousins and made a crack in a couple of brick walls. We will NEVER be able to dispense with conventional methods but this is an exciting new tool that I am more than happy to embrace. Right now I'm waiting for a chance to steal my brother's toothbrush. ;-). Happy Easter! MWF ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 9:30 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release Date: 4/6/2007 9:30 PM

I am amazed at the notions that are out there surrounding DNA. My brother had about decided to do the cheek scrape then somebody told him they had their identity stolen after submitting a sample. He is fairly well-educated and of normal intelligence but he bought that and he won't open his mouth for me. I told him we don't even need to reveal his name but he ain't buying. If I could get his coffee cup, I'd do it in a heartbeat! MWF -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CandyTree@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:43 PM To: VAROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] The New York Times article Hello, everyone! I was with Derrell Teat in Georgia where we hoped to meet with one of my Hodgens relatives. I am trying to prove that my ancestor, Jacob Hodgens, is from the same family line of John B. Hodgens (an orphan or street urchin) born England 1766 who went to sea at age 7 and landed on our shores in 1785. This family has been researched for 50+ years. We knew he had 3 sons with the oldest being Derrell's line and 3 years ago, we found the youngest son's descendent with DNA. I believe the middle son is my Jacob because he named his eldest son John B. Hodgens and his eldest daughter Mary A. Hodgens, which is John B. Hodgens wife's name. In June of 2004, I telephoned a Hodgens gentleman in Georgia who was a descendent of Jacob Hodgens. He agreed to participate in the Hodgens Surname Y-DNA Project and that I would pay for the Test Kit. When I called him the next day to give him all the particulars, his son answered the phone and told me to never call again regarding the subject of DNA. Derrell and I traveled to Georgia in Feb 2007 just to meet with the Hodgens gentleman, to give him a copy of the Hodgens family book and copies of all Hodgens documents I have collected. And, if he did not want to participate, maybe he could refer us to another male family member who might agree to be tested. He had told me that he met some of his friends at McDonald's for breakfast every morning. Derrell and I discussed this and hoped to meet with him at McDonald's (without his son), but this never happened. In fact, we never visited that McDonald's while we were in Georgia. But quite honestly, if the possibility of getting his coffee cup arrived, Derrell was going to take it from the garbage receptacle! She had researched whether this was illegal or not and found out that once it lands in the garbage receptacle, it is no longer considered his property. He refused to meet with us, but referred us to his sister and brother-in-law. His brother-in-law was very open to all we had to say and agreed to discuss this with his Hodgens relatives and to give them the Hodgens book and the documents. The Hodgens family is having a large reunion in July, and how great would it be to have descendants of all THREE sons represented! To this day, the Hodgens gentleman has never said that he would not be tested. Of course, we are hoping if not him, then some other male Hodgens will step forward to be tested. Derrell Teat never said that we were "stalking" this Hodgens gentleman. I was shocked when I read the Hodgens portion of the NY Times article! This is why Derrell and I wanted to read our portion of the article before it was published. To say that I am disappointed is an understatement. This article portrays us as "vultures" trying to get DNA in any underhanded way possible. This was not the fault of Amy Harmon, so no blame should be directed to her. The blame lies with the copy editor who's job is to make the stories sensational so that they sell newspapers. And I'm also disappointed that some of our fellow DNA project admins criticized us before they knew the whole story, and they might still do so. But quite honestly, we do not believe that anyone of us has the right to criticize or tell another admin that they are wrong. Each of us has our own ways and beliefs on what is right for our projects. I believe that none of us would intentionally hurt the DNA community and would have liked that same attitude felt toward us. We have only received positive responses from friends, family, project members and, surprisingly, the most support has come from complete strangers. Best regards to all, Candy Campise ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh, come on, People, lighten up. I got a real good chuckle out of the article. I have been doing genealogy using "conventional" methods since before courthouses even had copy machines but I've bought kits for a couple of male cousins and made a crack in a couple of brick walls. We will NEVER be able to dispense with conventional methods but this is an exciting new tool that I am more than happy to embrace. Right now I'm waiting for a chance to steal my brother's toothbrush. ;-). Happy Easter! MWF

Now, I've only got a handful of these records....his will, a few deeds, ect... but not all of this! Wow, he is becoming more real to me than ever. And he lived to be 96. Finally, that issue is solved once and for all. Many swore he lived to be 100, I was stuck in the middle somewhere, I just wasn't sure on that part. Great job Tim. Thank you so much for everything, April. SPRAD666@aol.com wrote: _http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bhreed&id=I26095_ (http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bhreed&id=I26095) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.

I think what the NY Time reports is what has and will make it difficult for DNA Project Groups to get people to have their DNA done. We at the Hendricks DNA Project are up front with anyone who wants their DNA tested or indicate they want it tested. We don't sneak around and contrive to get samples. We provide free DNA data sets of Hendricks DNA participants once a person is established to be in a certain group of Hendricks. We connect them to their kin. We also provide free a 2 Gigabit DVD of Hendricks Family data bases; mostly research data showing family deeds. wills, probate, church and census records. We also help the person find his family lineage through knowledgeable Hendricks helpers who help do research on their family lineage. I believe the people who contributed the input to the New York Times apparently led them to believe what is published in the articles. I have always believed where there is smoke there is often fire. It is a shame something like this has to get published in a major newspaper when so many surname DNA Project work hard to help people find their family and never work any contrivance to do so. ----- Original Message ----- From: freedbyluvv To: varoots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: [VAROOTS] Original N.Y. Times article re: "stalking for genealogy" http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/us/02dna.html?ex=1333166400&en=9b7a067701f2c8ab&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, everyone! I was with Derrell Teat in Georgia where we hoped to meet with one of my Hodgens relatives. I am trying to prove that my ancestor, Jacob Hodgens, is from the same family line of John B. Hodgens (an orphan or street urchin) born England 1766 who went to sea at age 7 and landed on our shores in 1785. This family has been researched for 50+ years. We knew he had 3 sons with the oldest being Derrell's line and 3 years ago, we found the youngest son's descendent with DNA. I believe the middle son is my Jacob because he named his eldest son John B. Hodgens and his eldest daughter Mary A. Hodgens, which is John B. Hodgens wife's name. In June of 2004, I telephoned a Hodgens gentleman in Georgia who was a descendent of Jacob Hodgens. He agreed to participate in the Hodgens Surname Y-DNA Project and that I would pay for the Test Kit. When I called him the next day to give him all the particulars, his son answered the phone and told me to never call again regarding the subject of DNA. Derrell and I traveled to Georgia in Feb 2007 just to meet with the Hodgens gentleman, to give him a copy of the Hodgens family book and copies of all Hodgens documents I have collected. And, if he did not want to participate, maybe he could refer us to another male family member who might agree to be tested. He had told me that he met some of his friends at McDonald's for breakfast every morning. Derrell and I discussed this and hoped to meet with him at McDonald's (without his son), but this never happened. In fact, we never visited that McDonald's while we were in Georgia. But quite honestly, if the possibility of getting his coffee cup arrived, Derrell was going to take it from the garbage receptacle! She had researched whether this was illegal or not and found out that once it lands in the garbage receptacle, it is no longer considered his property. He refused to meet with us, but referred us to his sister and brother-in-law. His brother-in-law was very open to all we had to say and agreed to discuss this with his Hodgens relatives and to give them the Hodgens book and the documents. The Hodgens family is having a large reunion in July, and how great would it be to have descendants of all THREE sons represented! To this day, the Hodgens gentleman has never said that he would not be tested. Of course, we are hoping if not him, then some other male Hodgens will step forward to be tested. Derrell Teat never said that we were "stalking" this Hodgens gentleman. I was shocked when I read the Hodgens portion of the NY Times article! This is why Derrell and I wanted to read our portion of the article before it was published. To say that I am disappointed is an understatement. This article portrays us as "vultures" trying to get DNA in any underhanded way possible. This was not the fault of Amy Harmon, so no blame should be directed to her. The blame lies with the copy editor who's job is to make the stories sensational so that they sell newspapers. And I'm also disappointed that some of our fellow DNA project admins criticized us before they knew the whole story, and they might still do so. But quite honestly, we do not believe that anyone of us has the right to criticize or tell another admin that they are wrong. Each of us has our own ways and beliefs on what is right for our projects. I believe that none of us would intentionally hurt the DNA community and would have liked that same attitude felt toward us. We have only received positive responses from friends, family, project members and, surprisingly, the most support has come from complete strangers. Best regards to all, Candy Campise ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.