While Doran's book is good it has some known errors. You might want to consider the following http://www.rootsmagic.com/animap.htm It is a software program that follows the boundary changes for whatever county/state you want Doug ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

If you are going to do research in Virginia I believe this book is essential. It may even explain that your ancestors didn't move after all, the counties just changed. John -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JOANorED@aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:32 PM To: varoots@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] Virginia state boundry changes All of you who addressed the original query on this topic need to by or at least read the excellent book Atlas of County Boundary Changes in Virginia, 1634-1895 by Michael F. Doran, copyright 1987, published by Iberian Publishing Company, 548 Cedar Creek Drive, Athens, GA. Nearly all of the well known genealogical publishing houses carry it. This is a MUST book for anyone trying to do Early Virginia research. One needs to READ the whole book, not just look at the maps. Virginia was the "mother" of West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and parts of Michigan and Wisconsin. Also, see page 5, included there are partly or wholly all of the current states of North Carolina, South Carolina as well as a small part of Alabama and Florida. It is very complicated topic. JBW ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All of you who addressed the original query on this topic need to by or at least read the excellent book Atlas of County Boundary Changes in Virginia, 1634-1895 by Michael F. Doran, copyright 1987, published by Iberian Publishing Company, 548 Cedar Creek Drive, Athens, GA. Nearly all of the well known genealogical publishing houses carry it. This is a MUST book for anyone trying to do Early Virginia research. One needs to READ the whole book, not just look at the maps. Virginia was the "mother" of West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and parts of Michigan and Wisconsin. Also, see page 5, included there are partly or wholly all of the current states of North Carolina, South Carolina as well as a small part of Alabama and Florida. It is very complicated topic. JBW ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

JBW, Thank You very for this update to my query, I will be purchasing this book, not onlt did my Jones family come from Virginia, but all 4 of my granparents families migrated from Virginia. All of us need this book. Again, Thank You Liz JOANorED@aol.com wrote: All of you who addressed the original query on this topic need to by or at least read the excellent book Atlas of County Boundary Changes in Virginia, 1634-1895 by Michael F. Doran, copyright 1987, published by Iberian Publishing Company, 548 Cedar Creek Drive, Athens, GA. Nearly all of the well known genealogical publishing houses carry it. This is a MUST book for anyone trying to do Early Virginia research. One needs to READ the whole book, not just look at the maps. Virginia was the "mother" of West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and parts of Michigan and Wisconsin. Also, see page 5, included there are partly or wholly all of the current states of North Carolina, South Carolina as well as a small part of Alabama and Florida. It is very complicated topic. JBW ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.

I believe that it also went north toward Canada. Joyce -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Billie Erin Walsh Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 4:06 PM To: varoots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] State boundary changes over the years Emaress Nova wrote: > Boundaries between Virginia did not change much, but counties that > were originally Virginia became West Virginia - somebody who was born > in say Monroe County, VA after the break found themselves in Monroe > County, WV. > > > My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen > I may be going back a little far, but if I remember my history right, and sometimes my rememberer doesn't work quite like it should, when Virginia was originally founded it, more or less, went all the way across the continent. In other words it had no set western boundary. I think each of the original colonies was pretty much started open to the west. After all no one REALLY knew how far "west" was back then. I know that's a bit of a stretch, but something that needs to be kept in mind if your research actually get back that far. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The boundary between Va and NC did not change all that much over the years so unless they were right on the line, I wouldn't count on that. Seems to me there was some confusion between Va and NC going through the Great Dismal Swamp and the line was settled by a survey by George Washington. Of course WVa split off at the beginning of the War Between the States and I don't think that boundary bounced around much (if at all) either. Bev In a message dated 6/30/2007 1:42:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rodeo88us@yahoo.com writes: I am working on my Jones family, many born in Virginia. However, with all the boundary changes of the states over the years I think that perhaps they might now be listed in other states, such as West Virginia, and North Carolina. Can anyone help me or direct me to a website that will help me understand when, and where the boundaries changed. I have been working on my Jones family history since the early 1970's and here I am still working on them, and really no further back than in the 70's? I will appreciate any help or advice anyone can offer me. My Jones' started in Virginia, then moved to Tennessee then to Arkansas, and my gg-grandfather who was born in 1833 in Virgina came to Texas. Where most of us still reside. Thank You, Liz rodeo88us God Bless America, Again --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Boundaries between Virginia did not change much, but counties that were originally Virginia became West Virginia - somebody who was born in say Monroe County, VA after the break found themselves in Monroe County, WV. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC

Thank You for your advice, I appreciate your help. Liz \Ms2001@aol.com wrote: The boundary between Va and NC did not change all that much over the years so unless they were right on the line, I wouldn't count on that. Seems to me there was some confusion between Va and NC going through the Great Dismal Swamp and the line was settled by a survey by George Washington. Of course WVa split off at the beginning of the War Between the States and I don't think that boundary bounced around much (if at all) either. Bev In a message dated 6/30/2007 1:42:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rodeo88us@yahoo.com writes: I am working on my Jones family, many born in Virginia. However, with all the boundary changes of the states over the years I think that perhaps they might now be listed in other states, such as West Virginia, and North Carolina. Can anyone help me or direct me to a website that will help me understand when, and where the boundaries changed. I have been working on my Jones family history since the early 1970's and here I am still working on them, and really no further back than in the 70's? I will appreciate any help or advice anyone can offer me. My Jones' started in Virginia, then moved to Tennessee then to Arkansas, and my gg-grandfather who was born in 1833 in Virgina came to Texas. Where most of us still reside. Thank You, Liz rodeo88us God Bless America, Again --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.

Emaress Nova wrote: > Boundaries between Virginia did not change much, > but counties that were originally Virginia became > West Virginia - somebody who was born in say > Monroe County, VA after the break found > themselves in Monroe County, WV. > > > My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen > I may be going back a little far, but if I remember my history right, and sometimes my rememberer doesn't work quite like it should, when Virginia was originally founded it, more or less, went all the way across the continent. In other words it had no set western boundary. I think each of the original colonies was pretty much started open to the west. After all no one REALLY knew how far "west" was back then. I know that's a bit of a stretch, but something that needs to be kept in mind if your research actually get back that far. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on!

Would a William Chandler Owen (or Owens) from North Carolina or South Carolina be listed? Thank you for your time. Mikell Dunn mikelldunn@aol.com ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

If you are inclined to spend a bit of money, the program, "AniMap", available readily on the internet , will reveal by moving maps the genesis of all colonies/counties of our nation. It is very user friendly and is used MANY times a day by a large number of us who do early research. Simply type "Animap" in your browser, then click "Genealogy" in the left column. Paul -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liz Cunningham Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:35 AM To: VAROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] State boundary changes over the years I am working on my Jones family, many born in Virginia. However, with all the boundary changes of the states over the years I think that perhaps they might now be listed in other states, such as West Virginia, and North Carolina. Can anyone help me or direct me to a website that will help me understand when, and where the boundaries changed. I have been working on my Jones family history since the early 1970's and here I am still working on them, and really no further back than in the 70's? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.12/878 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 5:57 PM

Would you have time to look for the Kendall name, also Kindle? Thanks either way, Ann in OH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Bertram" <researcher@digginbones.com> To: <VAROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] Revolutionary War Pensions (Will do lookups) > Hi all. I have the following cd, which I am willing to do some lookups > from. > > > > Revolutionary War Pensions Lists, Military Records. Contains images from > 12 > volumes of Revolutionary War pension records. Contains information on > approximately 110,000 individuals. > > > > Some types of information that "may" be included is. Name and Rank, > Regiment and description of service, Place of residence, Nature of wounds > or > disability, Date of death, Occasional reference to family members. > > > > Please send any requests for a lookup from this cd to me at > rex@digginbones.com . Please be sure to put "Rev. War Pension Lists" in > the > subject line of your message. Even if you are not certain that your > ancestor served during the Rev. War, you may still feel free to ask for a > lookup, as long as you know the person would have been of age to have > served > in the war. > > > > Rex W. Bertram > > 132 S. Butler ST. > > Redkey, IN 47373 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 10:07 AM > >

I am working on my Jones family, many born in Virginia. However, with all the boundary changes of the states over the years I think that perhaps they might now be listed in other states, such as West Virginia, and North Carolina. Can anyone help me or direct me to a website that will help me understand when, and where the boundaries changed. I have been working on my Jones family history since the early 1970's and here I am still working on them, and really no further back than in the 70's? I will appreciate any help or advice anyone can offer me. My Jones' started in Virginia, then moved to Tennessee then to Arkansas, and my gg-grandfather who was born in 1833 in Virgina came to Texas. Where most of us still reside. Thank You, Liz rodeo88us God Bless America, Again --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.

One writer on this list has stated that in my writings concerning servitude, I have suggested that nearly all who came to the Colonies did do as servants. That simply is not correct. A cursory examination of my works will reveal that I made NO comments whatever about any percentages or numbers of those who came for other reasons or of those who had the wherewithal or means to pay their own way, nor did I ever intend to speak of those latter categories of early settlers. My only purpose and thrust of those writings was to speak of servants alone. Indeed, the title to my article was "Earning Your Way" and the subtitle was ".... Indentured Servitude as a Means of Providing Transportation". So, once again, if any of you would like a copy of that article, please contact me privately. Paul No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.12/878 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 5:57 PM

Hi Paul: I would like your article, if it is possible for you to e-mail it to me. Thanks, so much. Grace Hall Upshaw Paul Drake wrote: > Ms. Julie, if you want my article concerning indentured servitude, let me > know. > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of John Hogg > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:43 AM > To: varoots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] records of the Virginia Settlement > > I checked some of my books and that name doesn't appear in the current > "Adventurers of Purse and Person" or the first 3 volumes of "Cavaliers and > Pioneers". Nor is it in the Colonial Virginia Source Records CD (FTM 510) > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Julie > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:19 PM > To: varoots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VAROOTS] records of the Virginia Settlement > > thank you! I'll check those out!!! > > Do you or anyone, know where they might have filed the indentured servant > contracts? How did people get on the boat? did you just jump on and figure > someone on the other end will take you on as a servant? or do you sign a > contract beforehand? Did the ships from Europe come from only England? or > if they were French did they go from France? or stop off in England first > then go? > > Now watch - it will be all of the above and I won't be any closer to > finding where my Nicholas LaHugh came from, lol > > Julie in CA > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 > 10:56 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 > 10:56 AM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I found him in a book from Northumberland Indentured servants and land grants - it was spelt Nich: Lee-how, servt to Mr. Leonard Howson, fourteen yeares; thanks for looking! I'd loave to find him in another book, but... Julie John Hogg <john.hogg@sbcglobal.net> wrote: I checked some of my books and that name doesn't appear in the current "Adventurers of Purse and Person" or the first 3 volumes of "Cavaliers and Pioneers". Nor is it in the Colonial Virginia Source Records CD (FTM 510) John --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.

Ms. Julie, if you want my article concerning indentured servitude, let me know. Paul -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Hogg Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:43 AM To: varoots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] records of the Virginia Settlement I checked some of my books and that name doesn't appear in the current "Adventurers of Purse and Person" or the first 3 volumes of "Cavaliers and Pioneers". Nor is it in the Colonial Virginia Source Records CD (FTM 510) John -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julie Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:19 PM To: varoots@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] records of the Virginia Settlement thank you! I'll check those out!!! Do you or anyone, know where they might have filed the indentured servant contracts? How did people get on the boat? did you just jump on and figure someone on the other end will take you on as a servant? or do you sign a contract beforehand? Did the ships from Europe come from only England? or if they were French did they go from France? or stop off in England first then go? Now watch - it will be all of the above and I won't be any closer to finding where my Nicholas LaHugh came from, lol Julie in CA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM

I checked some of my books and that name doesn't appear in the current "Adventurers of Purse and Person" or the first 3 volumes of "Cavaliers and Pioneers". Nor is it in the Colonial Virginia Source Records CD (FTM 510) John -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julie Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:19 PM To: varoots@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] records of the Virginia Settlement thank you! I'll check those out!!! Do you or anyone, know where they might have filed the indentured servant contracts? How did people get on the boat? did you just jump on and figure someone on the other end will take you on as a servant? or do you sign a contract beforehand? Did the ships from Europe come from only England? or if they were French did they go from France? or stop off in England first then go? Now watch - it will be all of the above and I won't be any closer to finding where my Nicholas LaHugh came from, lol Julie in CA

Hi, Julie. I and several others have written about indentured servants in response to queries on this and several other sites. Check the archives for this site and VA Library. If that fails, get back to me. and I will help Paul -----Original Message----- From: varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varoots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julie Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:19 PM To: varoots@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] records of the Virginia Settlement thank you! I'll check those out!!! Do you or anyone, know where they might have filed the indentured servant contracts? How did people get on the boat? did you just jump on and figure someone on the other end will take you on as a servant? or do you sign a contract beforehand? Did the ships from Europe come from only England? or if they were French did they go from France? or stop off in England first then go? Now watch - it will be all of the above and I won't be any closer to finding where my Nicholas LaHugh came from, lol Julie in CA Emaress Nova <emaress_nova@yahoo.com> wrote: Julie, Under the heading The Avalon Project at Yale Law School you will find the charters for a number of colonies - I copied the first and second charters for Virginia - the first was dated April 10, 1606 and the second was dated May 23, 1609. Lots of names and provisions for the establishment of the colony. http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/states/va01.htm same address except it is /va02.htm for the second one My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/876 - Release Date: 6/28/2007 10:56 AM

thank you! I'll check those out!!! Do you or anyone, know where they might have filed the indentured servant contracts? How did people get on the boat? did you just jump on and figure someone on the other end will take you on as a servant? or do you sign a contract beforehand? Did the ships from Europe come from only England? or if they were French did they go from France? or stop off in England first then go? Now watch - it will be all of the above and I won't be any closer to finding where my Nicholas LaHugh came from, lol Julie in CA Emaress Nova <emaress_nova@yahoo.com> wrote: Julie, Under the heading The Avalon Project at Yale Law School you will find the charters for a number of colonies - I copied the first and second charters for Virginia - the first was dated April 10, 1606 and the second was dated May 23, 1609. Lots of names and provisions for the establishment of the colony. http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/states/va01.htm same address except it is /va02.htm for the second one My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.