RE: S.L. C. Library Their collections of genealogical books by state, county, country, etc. are very extensive, as is their collection of family histories. I found sources I had not found elsewhere. Their experts too offer invaluable help. Documents in other languages are translated for you by them. The advantage to their microfilm collection is that it is right there. At family centers, you must order the microfilm you want to be sent to the local center where it can be kept for six weeks, plus it must be used at the F.C. E. Kaspar Bette McIntosh wrote: > Hello All (especially Valerie)..... I too would like to learn of the > advantages and disadvantages of traveling to Salt Lake City

Hi John: I have been there many times, and I love it. They have records that you won't find anywhere else. The librarians are all very helpful. I'd love to spend a month there. GEORGIA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com> To: <VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 5:31 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] Salt Lake City Resource > Has anyone had any success in visiting the Family History Library in Salt > Lake City? What were your experiences there? (Good, bad, + any other > comments...) > > Regards, > > John B. Taylor > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello All (especially Valerie)..... I too would like to learn of the advantages and disadvantages of traveling to Salt Lake City (LDS/FHL) to research. Are there materials and resources there that are peculiar to that location alone, and not available on loan, and for which the trek would be well worth the effort. Bette bmcintosh@new.rr.com > I went to SLC once and enjoyed the trip and found useful information. > However, I had to admit afterwards, that I could have gotten most of this same > information through a local FHC. > > A discussion of what is only available at the FHL in SLC, and not available > at a local FHC or online, might be more useful. > > Valerie Gibbs >

In a message dated 7/6/03 8:31:43 AM, Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com writes: >Has anyone had any success in visiting the Family History Library in Salt >Lake City? What were your experiences there? (Good, bad, + any other >comments...) Before you plan a trip to Salt Lake City (SLC), you should identify as best as possible what resources at the Family History Library (FHL) in SLC you want to use. There are a couple of books written about using the FHL in SLC which will describe these resources. Check Willow Bend Books on the Internet. They are a reputable publisher of genealogical books. Also, check the LDS web site, FamilySearch.org, on the Internet, where you can read the catalog of the FHL's resources. They may also have booklets for sale describing their resources (You can also get these at a local FHC.). Many of the FHL's resources are available at the Family History Centers (FHC) around the world. Also, some of the resources are available on the Internet (FamilySearch.org). Instead of going to SLC, you may prefer to use a nearby FHC. Even a 1 hour drive, once a week, to a local FHC may be just as productive as a trip to SLC. If the FHC is crowded, perhaps you could arrive earlier, before the crowd builds up. Of course, a trip to SLC can be a nice change. Check the FamilySearch site for a FHC near you and its hours. To learn about some of the resources the FHL has, read their catalog online at the FamilySearch site. It lists their collection of microfilms of original church records from around the world, as well as civil records. It also list the books that are on microfilm. Most, if not all, of these microfilms can be rented for a nominal amount, $2-4, at a local FHC and used at the FHC. Many of the books at the FHL in SLC are on microfilm, however some may not be; I don't know, for sure. The International Genealogical Index (IGI) is online at the FamilySearch site, and so is the Ancestral File. Also, I believe the Pedigree Resource File is online too. Entries in the IGI can be from trained volunteers who have indexed the church records on microfilm, or from church members who have submitted their family histories (these can be more subject to error). The Ancestral File and the Pedigree Resource File are totally based on submissions by anyone, and so, should be used carefully, as they also are more subject to error. As for censuses, you don't need to go to SLC to use them. The microfilms of the censuses can be rented from SLC and used at a local FHC. Also, many, if not all, of the censuses are online. Ancestry.com has them online, as well as, Genealogy.com (Familytreemaker.com). And they have indexes for many of them. One has certain indexes, the other site has other indexes. You have to pay for a subscription to use the censuses, but it's a modest amount per year, I forget offhand. Also, the LDS' FamilySearch site has the 1880 US census abstracted and indexed, online. And, certain local county libraries subscribe to HeritageQuest.com, which has the censuses online. If you register with the library, you can access this subscription area, by going online from your home to the library's web site. Or you can drive to the library and use this site. It seems HeritageQuest doesn't offer this subscription to individuals, just libraries. Of course, you can buy the censuses on CD from HeritageQuest, Ancestry, FamilyTreeMaker, etc., but it can get rather expensive. I went to SLC once and enjoyed the trip and found useful information. However, I had to admit afterwards, that I could have gotten most of this same information through a local FHC. A discussion of what is only available at the FHL in SLC, and not available at a local FHC or online, might be more useful. Valerie Gibbs

Norfolk News Neatly Noted: Mr. A.J. Bendix of NYC is here. Mr. H.B. Pike of Baltimore is here in the City. Mr. Gus Ullman, of Richmond is in the City. Judge Hanckel has chartered the West End Reality Company. There was no busines of importance transacted in the Police Court Yesterday. Rev. Samuel W. Small was quite sick at his home in the west end yesterday. The funeral of Mr. Charles T. Cabler will take place today at 3pm from the First Presbyterian Church. The 2nd Massachusetts legislative committee, which was in Richmond Monday, was in Norfolk Yesterday. George Joynder a white boy, will be sent to the state reformatory tonight in charge of Mr. George W. Campe. Mr. John Callahan, General manager of the Norfolk and Washington Steamboat Company, was in Norfolk Yesterday. REv. Father Foley of Washington D.C. preached a very impressive sermon At ST. Mary's Catholic Church sunday. Mr. George C. Moser has placed in Umstadler's windowa drawing of the New Ocean View Hotel, which will completed by June 1. Mr. H.W. Jones of 714 Brambleton avenue left last night for Baltimore, where he will be engaged in moving a residence in that city. hope you find this interesting, Kristina

Sunday about 2, o'clock considerable excitement was created on Green Street caused by a difficulty between Mr. John F. Clark, A well known citizen and his father in law, Mr. Samuel W. Hodges and his Son Frank. During the Fracas Mr. Samuel W. Hodges had his throat cut & rec'd 10 other cuts about the face and body. His son Frank received a severe cut over the eye and on the head. Mr. Clark received two cuts on his head and a number of bruises. Dr. Brutt and V.G. Culpepper were called in and sewed up the wounds of the Hodges. Dr. Parker attended Mr. Clark. Fully 500 people gathered around the house on the corner of Green and Clifford Street. A warrent was issued for Mr. Clark's arrest but a certificated bing furnished by Dr. Parker stating that owing to the condition of Mrs. Clark and the wounds of Mr. Clark, that it would be unwise to carry him to jail at that time, no arrest was made until yesterday, when he was brought before Mayor Davis, but owing to the condition of Mr. Hodges, the case was continued until Monday next, and Mr. Clark who was represented by Capt. R. C. Marshall was admitted to bail in the sum of $500 . Owing to the number of rumors existing the representative of this paper saw Mr. Clark and Got his Statement and Also Mr. Hodges. _____________________________________________ Statements followed in Paper, much to long to type here hope you find it interesting, Kristina

Mayor's Court Norfolk: Dec 16 1865: J. Miller was brought up for selling without having his weights sealed. Discharged. __________________________________________ James Jones lost his coat and appealed for a search warrant. ____________________________________________________ Three soldiers , arrested by the night police for riotous conduct, were transferred to the Freedman's Court, as was a negro, for stealing. ___________________________________ Mayor's Court Portsmouth, Dec 16 1865 John Gutter arrested on complain of Capt. Isaac C. Buswell, charged with passing counterfeit note on his servant. Case not sustained and accused dismissed. _______________________________________ Benjamin F. Vaughan and William Woodward, charged with stealing a watch. No evidence sustaining the charge and exculpated by the man who lost the watch. Case dismissed. ________________________________ David McCarty, Mary Townsend and Mrs. Davis , for stealing pocket book containing $1 and sundry papers. Mary committed and McGarty and Davis dismissed. ____________________________-- Freedman's Court Dec 16 1865 Whalen, G. Hill and A.R. Van Buskirk (soldiers) for drunkeness and disorderly conduct were sent under guard to headquaters . Hester Herbert, for stealing, was dismissed on restoring the property hope it helps, kristina <A HREF="www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com">www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com</A>

I was treated courteously in Buckingham, only problem is that they are only available to researchers on Wednesday afternoons and Sunday afternoons. I am not a Morman either but they didn't ask me anything about my religion. --- Ms2001@aol.com wrote: > I went to a local one and decided once was > enough. In Richmond VA, they > asked me what religion I was and let me know > that Southern Baptists did not belong > there. I spent the entire time sitting on the > floor because they only had > about 10 chairs and all were taken. The > 'librarian' told me several times they > had nothing that the Va State Library did not > have. I got discouraged because > no one could cite sources for the info and I > finally went home thoroughly > disgusted.. > > Bev > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: [VAROOTS] Salt Lake City Resource > Date: 7/6/2003 8:31:50 AM Eastern Daylight > Time > From: <A > HREF="mailto:Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com">Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com</A> > > Reply-to: <A > HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> > > To: <A > HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> > > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > Has anyone had any success in visiting the > Family History Library in Salt > Lake City? What were your experiences there? > (Good, bad, + any other > comments...) > > Regards, > > John B. Taylor > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

I go to the Salt Lake library about once a year and have done so for the past 10 years or so. The first few years I came home with tons of information, but now the hunting is harder. However, I still look forward to each visit. They have an orientation in the morning, recommended for beginners, to learn where everything is located. The Ancestral File (in the computer room) contains information that other researchers have submitted, so you will find many errors there. However it is a place to start. Most of this is now online (www.familysearch.com). If your ancestors were in the US or Canada, the section containing state and county books is a good resource. You may find an index of wills or vital records there as well as military records. This is on the first floor. On the second floor are the filmed documents including census data. You can look up the area you are researching on the computer and learn what has been filmed. Usually there are lots of people available to help you get started. In another building are the family histories. These may have some errors, depending on the skill of the person who researched and wrote the genealogy. I found many branches of my family there. Basements contain documents and films pertaining to other countries. I have used the first basement for my Norwegian ancestors and found the staff to be most helpful. There are people at the information desk that can help translate. Good luck and happy hunting! Stella

I went to a local one and decided once was enough. In Richmond VA, they asked me what religion I was and let me know that Southern Baptists did not belong there. I spent the entire time sitting on the floor because they only had about 10 chairs and all were taken. The 'librarian' told me several times they had nothing that the Va State Library did not have. I got discouraged because no one could cite sources for the info and I finally went home thoroughly disgusted.. Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: [VAROOTS] Salt Lake City Resource Date: 7/6/2003 8:31:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com">Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Has anyone had any success in visiting the Family History Library in Salt Lake City? What were your experiences there? (Good, bad, + any other comments...) Regards, John B. Taylor ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I found gracious volunteers in SLC eager to help me. I also discovered that it was better to ask to see the expert in a particular area, such as state, to get the best help. On the international floor were helpers who also spoke/read many different languages. I received valuable assistance in finding my German ancestors. Their book collection and their microfilm collection are excellent. You must be cautious, however, in using the trees that have been submitted by members. They may or may not be accurate. I found one supposed tree in which the member, who obviously was not interested in genealogy, had copied the people with the same name from a phonebook and claimed that they were all relatives! LDS does recognize that some info is inaccurate and will provide a form for you to submit corrections. I plan to return to S.L.C. for more research since I gleaned good info there. I stayed in the Plaza Best Western Hotel next door to the library, the best choice since I could be there in less than 5 minutes. I also asked at the main desk for a pass so that I could eat in the LDS cafeteria on "campus." Very handy plus good food. E. Kaspar Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com wrote: > Has anyone had any success in visiting the Family History Library in Salt > Lake City? What were your experiences there? (Good, bad, + any other > comments...) > > Regards, > > John B. Taylor > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

John, I was at the Salt Lake City Family History Center several times and the information was accurate since it is all microfilmed from the original documents. If it is really busy, which I have heard it is most often, you may have to wait a bit for help. There are just so many volunteers, but everyone if eager to help. Also, many people who are there doing research will show you what to do. It is a bit itimidating at first because of the vast amount of films that are there. You will be shown how to code your surnames and there are books that have all the census film numbers in and you look for your surname code in that book for the area you want. Then when you have the film number, you find the film you want and sit and look through is on the viewers. You can do some of the locating of film numbers online before going to the library. If I can be of further help you can email me off list. My experiences have been pretty good. There is also a library in Ogden. It isn't as big but all of the census films are there. Maybe if there is a library closer to you it would be better to learn how to find things there before going to Salt Lake City. Susan H.C.V.

I have been to four Family Research Centers in two states, including the large one in Nauvoo, IL., and though I am not Mormon, I have always been treated well and never asked about my religion. I suspect that the center you visited does not represent the usual. The smaller ones were crowded, but I waited my turn. In Nauvoo, I was pleased to be able to purchase for $1 each guides to research for various states, countries, etc. Now most of what local Family Centers have is on-line at http://www.familysearch.org/ I also was treated nicely in S.L.C. E. Kaspar Ms2001@aol.com wrote: > I went to a local one and decided once was enough. In Richmond VA, they > asked me what religion I was and let me know that Southern Baptists did not belong > there. I spent the entire time sitting on the floor because they only had > about 10 chairs and all were taken. The 'librarian' told me several times they > had nothing that the Va State Library did not have. I got discouraged because > no one could cite sources for the info and I finally went home thoroughly > disgusted.. > > Bev > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: [VAROOTS] Salt Lake City Resource > Date: 7/6/2003 8:31:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com">Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > Has anyone had any success in visiting the Family History Library in Salt > Lake City? What were your experiences there? (Good, bad, + any other > comments...) > > Regards, > > John B. Taylor > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi List...I'm new to your list and I hope someone can help me. Leonard Maine was born in CT about 1880 and died in Martinsville, VA according to SSDI, about 1975. I found his stone in Proctorsville,VT Cemetery. His wife Mary Elizabeth (STEWART) TAYLOR was buried there with her father and the rest of the family. She died in 1963....I have not been able to find them in any census year. I found them in Bristol, CT City Directory for 1920-1930, but cannot find them in the Census for those years, they had dropped off the face of the earth until I was in VT this June and found their stones. I'm wondering if Leonard had family in VA that is why he was living there after the death of his wife. I'd like to ask SKS to try and find an obituary or a death record for him, or give me the address that I could write for death record. I'd love it if there were BMD's on line for this area, is there? I thought the best way to try to research any thing on him, was to go right to the VA roots list. TIA for any help I may get. Regards, Cathie in Florida

Anyone doing genealogical research who can afford to go to Salt Lake City to do the research will have found they are in 'genealogy heaven.' My personal experiences there have been among the most valued research trips I have ever taken including trips to Virginia. For 15 years 5 friends and I rented a condo within blocks of the library at which place we stayed for 2 to 3 weeks. We were at the library when it opened and remained there until it closed. We left the building only to go to lunch in the church office building cafeteria...excellent food, lots of choices! We snacked in the library building in their various break rooms at other times. I spent some years in the old library building and some in the new facility. I much prefer the new facility as it is easier to get around. The library is well staffed with trained volunteers. These people are not on salary and are there because they wish to be. The library does have rules about what you can and cannot take into the library. Their security system is excellent! Do be aware that this is often a busy library. Try to avoid it during the last week in March, first week in April. Also to be avoided are the last week in September, first week in October or in other words the LDS people have a worldwide conference the first weekend in April and the first weekend in October. This brings people to the city just before each conference. Not only will the library be busy but so will all the housing facilities, resturants impossible! My husband and I continue to travel to the library in Salt Lake City about every two years. We drive there in our RV and stay in the RV park there in the city. RV park is fairly close to the church facilities which include the library. It is always wise to have a reservation to the RV park. There are other parks scattered through the Salt Lake Valley, all easy freeway access to downtown Salt Lake City. Serious researchers find they become addicted to this library and don't want to leave! It is a wonderful experience! Enjoy it if you are privileged to go! Shirley Wagstaff Bandon, Oregon

I was there several years ago and found it to be a wonderful place to do research. Their are a lot of volunteers who work there and they really know what is available and where it is located. Best of all, they are so pleasant and willing to help. Yvonne --- Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com wrote: > Has anyone had any success in visiting the Family > History Library in Salt > Lake City? What were your experiences there? > (Good, bad, + any other > comments...) > > Regards, > > John B. Taylor > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

Has anyone had any success in visiting the Family History Library in Salt Lake City? What were your experiences there? (Good, bad, + any other comments...) Regards, John B. Taylor

Emaress, If you were complaining about errors in their data to them, they probably told you to fill out the appropriate forms. I have had nothing but positive experiences there. My only problem was that they have so many resources it was hard to process it all! I even took a contract job in the area so I cold go there almost every night after work and on Saturdays. Bob Juch http://www.Juch.org -----Original Message----- From: Emaress Nova [mailto:emaress_nova@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 5:40 AM To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Salt Lake City Resource Felt like I got a run around. Stuff that has been passed on to me from their records has proved to be inaccurate. If you wish to use LDS files be better to go to local LDS library - at least you are dealing with a human being there --- Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com wrote: > Has anyone had any success in visiting the > Family History Library in Salt > Lake City? What were your experiences there? > (Good, bad, + any other > comments...) > > Regards, > > John B. Taylor

Felt like I got a run around. Stuff that has been passed on to me from their records has proved to be inaccurate. If you wish to use LDS files be better to go to local LDS library - at least you are dealing with a human being there --- Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com wrote: > Has anyone had any success in visiting the > Family History Library in Salt > Lake City? What were your experiences there? > (Good, bad, + any other > comments...) > > Regards, > > John B. Taylor > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

In the book, "Bruns. Co. Marriages, 1750=1853" by Vogt & Kethley: James Taylor & Lucy White, 13 Dec 1833; bond (security)Parham H. Braswell. Consent by John White, father. Witness: Parham H. Braswell & Miss L. Taylor. Minister, Wm. Jones (officiated) 13 Dec 1833. Benjamin Taylor & Mary Ann C. Parham. 15 Dec 1820; bd, Nathaniel King; consent Thomas Parham, father. Minister Edward Dromgoole, Jr.: 20 Dec 1820. Benjamin Taylor & Nancy Williams 24 May 1803; bd John Williams. Min. Aaron Brown, Methodist: 26 May 1803. "Va. Marriage Records" = James Taylor & Martha Booker (widow) Sep 5, 1766, Amelia Co., Va. James D. Taylor & Judith Vasser, Feb 5, 1805, Amelia Co. Nothing here looks definite; but perhaps a clue present? Good hunting! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jbtrmc@wmconnect.com> To: <VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Taylors of Brunswick County > Thanks for your reply! The names I have are: > > Charles Benjamin Taylor, b. 5-8-1857, son of James Montgomery Taylor whose > date of birth is unknown. Reporteldy lived in / around Ebony, VA in Brunswick > County. > > Cordially, > > John B. Taylor > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >