England, of course, has a very long history with Germany, i agree. thanks for your input. Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: Emaress Nova To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Roll Call - surname THAMES Tams is this country is pronounced to rhyme with jams. No idea how pronounced in merry olde England. most likely the a is as a in father. I found some Thoms in England too and conversely found some Tams in Germany. Remember the brits are as much a polyglot people as we are. The royal family in England is from Germany. --- Tony & Julie Howell <tjhowell1@comcast.net> wrote: > do you know how the "a" in Tams was pronounced? > > > while Tams may be of English origin Thom is, i > believe, German. > > Julie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Emaress Nova > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Roll Call - surname > THAMES > > > My Tams forebears were potters - and until > very > recently there was still a Tams Pottery at > Stokes > on Trent in Stafforshire. I have been told > that > variations of the name include Tams, Thames, > Thom. > --- Tony & Julie Howell > <tjhowell1@comcast.net> > wrote: > > if the "a" in TAMS is pronounced with a > long-a > > sound, then we might have something. hope > so. > > there is some research data that a few of > our > > THAMESes were living in Buxton, which is > not > > far from Burslem, in the mid to late 1500s. > > > > Julie Thames Howell > > Jax, Fla > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Emaress Nova > > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Roll Call - > surname > > THAMES > > > > > > is TAMS perhaps a variant of your THAMES? > My > > forebears on mother's side were Tams from > > Burslem, England. > > --- Tony & Julie Howell > > <tjhowell1@comcast.net> > > wrote: > > > researching THAMES. > > > > > > Julie Thames Howell > > > Jacksonville, Florida

Roll Call: MAUPIN, JONES, VIA, LEMONS, BARKER, AUSTIN Ellie S. EllieSS@aol.com

do you know how the "a" in Tams was pronounced? while Tams may be of English origin Thom is, i believe, German. Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: Emaress Nova To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Roll Call - surname THAMES My Tams forebears were potters - and until very recently there was still a Tams Pottery at Stokes on Trent in Stafforshire. I have been told that variations of the name include Tams, Thames, Thom. --- Tony & Julie Howell <tjhowell1@comcast.net> wrote: > if the "a" in TAMS is pronounced with a long-a > sound, then we might have something. hope so. > there is some research data that a few of our > THAMESes were living in Buxton, which is not > far from Burslem, in the mid to late 1500s. > > Julie Thames Howell > Jax, Fla > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Emaress Nova > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Roll Call - surname > THAMES > > > is TAMS perhaps a variant of your THAMES? My > forebears on mother's side were Tams from > Burslem, England. > --- Tony & Julie Howell > <tjhowell1@comcast.net> > wrote: > > researching THAMES. > > > > Julie Thames Howell > > Jacksonville, Florida > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 > billion > > online genealogy records, go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved > product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 > billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Alas, I find Martin Bakers all over Colonial VA.! The one in Brunswick Co. who moved to Halifax Co., I know is my ancestor....but where did he live before and who were his parents? And who were the parents of his wife, Ann Clark? And which Elizabeth married their son, James? And who all were the children of their daughter, Susannah, who married Ransome Colquitt? "Seek and ye shall find" was never meant to apply to genealogy! ;-) Elizabeth K. My BAKER Page: http://www.wiu.edu.users.mfeak/

Looking for Henrico area BINNS families and descendants. David Binns is the father. Son are Christopher, David, Joseph, Peter and Dionitious. Family is recorded in St Peters Parish records, New Kent, 1725-1739. Court records exist in Henrico 1750s-1760's. Christopher's branch moved on to Wilkes, GA. David's branch stayed in Henrico area. Joseph's branch went to Cumberland, KY. Nothing found for Peter. Dionitous' branch stayed in New Kent area and moved to OH, MI. Many blanks to be filled in. Thnaks ! Steve and Bunny

Tams is this country is pronounced to rhyme with jams. No idea how pronounced in merry olde England. most likely the a is as a in father. I found some Thoms in England too and conversely found some Tams in Germany. Remember the brits are as much a polyglot people as we are. The royal family in England is from Germany. --- Tony & Julie Howell <tjhowell1@comcast.net> wrote: > do you know how the "a" in Tams was pronounced? > > > while Tams may be of English origin Thom is, i > believe, German. > > Julie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Emaress Nova > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Roll Call - surname > THAMES > > > My Tams forebears were potters - and until > very > recently there was still a Tams Pottery at > Stokes > on Trent in Stafforshire. I have been told > that > variations of the name include Tams, Thames, > Thom. > --- Tony & Julie Howell > <tjhowell1@comcast.net> > wrote: > > if the "a" in TAMS is pronounced with a > long-a > > sound, then we might have something. hope > so. > > there is some research data that a few of > our > > THAMESes were living in Buxton, which is > not > > far from Burslem, in the mid to late 1500s. > > > > Julie Thames Howell > > Jax, Fla > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Emaress Nova > > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Roll Call - > surname > > THAMES > > > > > > is TAMS perhaps a variant of your THAMES? > My > > forebears on mother's side were Tams from > > Burslem, England. > > --- Tony & Julie Howell > > <tjhowell1@comcast.net> > > wrote: > > > researching THAMES. > > > > > > Julie Thames Howell > > > Jacksonville, Florida > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 > > billion > > > online genealogy records, go to: > > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved > > product search > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 > > billion online genealogy records, go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 > billion > > online genealogy records, go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved > product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 > billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

Have a good trip! --- Ms2001@aol.com wrote: > Much as I hate to do it, I am removing myself > from the VAROOTS list for a > while. I'm leaving town for a week and I'm > afraid a Roll Call will overload my > mail box. Rather than taking a chance on that > happening, I'm just going to > drop the list and will rejoin when I get back. > > > Now do I remember how to do this ........ > > Bev > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

Much as I hate to do it, I am removing myself from the VAROOTS list for a while. I'm leaving town for a week and I'm afraid a Roll Call will overload my mail box. Rather than taking a chance on that happening, I'm just going to drop the list and will rejoin when I get back. Now do I remember how to do this ........ Bev

Included in the above are probably many I do not know about yet! :O) Joyce LUCAS DEVER, near Seattle skipdever@earthlink.net <mailto:skipdever@earthlink.net>

My Virginia surnames are: UPCHURCH DUDNEY LYLE GIBSON YEARWOOD GRIFFIN BUCY BROWNING DEMAREST LLOYD HUNNICUTT MULLIS WHIPPS DELKE WARREN EDWARDS SPENCER If anyone else is interested in these surnames, I would be glad to share what information I have. Pat Lyle Kramer

These are some of the lines/ brick walls I am working on. My great grandmother, Vernie Olivia MARION, one of 9 children, was b. Oct 1873 Bedford Co., VA, d. 1918 in Radford, VA. She married my great grandfather, Robert J. HARRELL in 1891. He was born Jan 1862 in Wythe Co., VA. He died March 1898. His parents, my 2nd great grandparents, J.A.and Maggie E. HARRELL are hidden in the brickwall. Vernie's parents, my 2nd great grandparents, were Sarah Jane MITCHELL 1864-1923 who married John Lewis MARION in 1865. He was b. 1843 in Amherst, VA. and died July 1881 in Bedford Co., VA. John Lewis MARION"S parents , my 3rd great grandparents, are also hidden in the brick wall. Sarah Jane Mitchell was the daughter of my 3rd great grandparents, John Getty MITCHELL, b June 1796 , d. April 1874 and Obedience HARDEN, b 1815 , d. Dec 15, 1891. John Getty MITCHELL was previously married to Nancy Lee ROACH and Nancy WILKINSON.. His parents are also hidden to me. If anyone can help knock down these walls, please come knocking. Lois South Lawrence,MA abl0nd2nd@aol.com

Searching for info on YA McIntyre & wife Sally Yow Of Stanly County NC c 1870 And his son Robert Lee McIntyre Wife Lillie Lambert They settled in Mooresville NC Nita

Henry DRAKE was brought to VA as a felon sometime before 1705. He married the widow, Mary RICHARDSON in Richmond CO, April 03, 1706. They later lived in King George CO where Henry died in 1723. Their children were: Clapham DRAKE (ca 1707-1747) Henry Jr., m. ... DODD and died ca 1760 Richard William Thomas and possibly a daughter, Anne Members of this family married into the families of : GREEN, QUISENBERRY, DODD, and COMBS. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Barb Marshall

Searching for these families in the 18th Century or before in Spotsylvania or Culpeper Counties. Any lead will be helpful. Please check my webpage for details "Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." Ralph Waldo Emerson Deb Koplen http://home.swbell.net/koplend/ koplend@swbell.net Grand Prairie, TX MSN Instant Messenger: Freckles6932 "Right Smak dab between Dallas & Fort Worth"

Hello, I am looking for information on two DAVIS's lines along with the names of WELLS and LAMBERT Also in search of the surname THARRINGTON . First ................ Gideon V. DAVIS born ca. 1822 Princess Anne County, Virginia ( now the City of Virginia Beach) Gideon died in Norfolk County, Feb. 22 1877. Would love to find his parents. LAMBERT, Caroline born August 06, 1827 (unknown county probably Princess Anne County ) died August 07, 1881 Norfolk County, Virginia. Caroline Lambert married the above Gideon DAVIS between 1848-1849. Looking for information on her parents William Lambert and Margaret (unknown maiden name) Lambert. William Lambert died in Princess Anne County in the 1860's. >From his will he mention 5 daughters. Second ............... Ella Jane DAVIS born ca. 1861 (unknown county believe Dinwiddie County) She was married in Petersburg, Dinwiddie County Feb. 8 1877 WELLS, J. H. W........ Better known as John Henry WELLS born ca. 1857 ( unknown County believe Dinwiddie County) and died December 02, 1945, Norfolk, Virginia. He married the above Ella Jane DAVIS. Ella Jane and John Henry had 3 daughters two were born in Dinwiddie County. Also looking for the surname of THARRINGTON. First name may well be Thomas. Dates would be around 1697-early 1700's. Would appreciate any help anyone is willing to give Regards, Patti All outgoing email was checked by Norton Anti Virus 2003 and is Virus Free.

I'm looking for John O'Leary b ABT 1830 married Mary Unknown they had a daughter, Mary (Mollie) O'Leary b 1857 married Russell Walker Campbell 1877 in Rappahannock, Va. Karen Caldwell Hardin

I have some Roberts who came from Virginia to Kentucky before 1800, but don't know what county in Virginia. They had a John and a William in older generations, but then also had Hezekiah and Nehemiah and Neally and Henley in later generations. Some researchers think they came from Spotsylvania County, but I've been unable to find any information there. Roberts is such a common name, they are found in every county. Any help appreciated. Mary

Much circumstantial evidence indicates that my gg grandfather William J. Ledford (bn circa 1822 Northumberland Co. Va.) was the son of John Ledford and his 3d wife Sally Hurst Ledford(m.Aug. 24, 1816 - Sally may have been nee Edwards daughter of Richard who married Willis Hurst Dec. 14, 1812 and later widowed. Elizabeth Howson Ledford, granddaughter of John Howson were married in Northumberland Co. VA.in 1842. Two children were the issue of this marriage James Ledford and Elizabeth Ledford James and Elizabeth Judith Garlington were married Jan 9. 1770 and were the parents of John Ledford bn.1776.

I have Campbell, Thompson and Wade's from Nelson and Amherst Co. The Ware's and Wingfields are from Louisa Co.

if the "a" in TAMS is pronounced with a long-a sound, then we might have something. hope so. there is some research data that a few of our THAMESes were living in Buxton, which is not far from Burslem, in the mid to late 1500s. Julie Thames Howell Jax, Fla ----- Original Message ----- From: Emaress Nova To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Roll Call - surname THAMES is TAMS perhaps a variant of your THAMES? My forebears on mother's side were Tams from Burslem, England. --- Tony & Julie Howell <tjhowell1@comcast.net> wrote: > researching THAMES. > > Julie Thames Howell > Jacksonville, Florida > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237