I beleive that is cattle Studs would be horses (unless it is my house, then it would be me) Dave Goodman The GOODMAN Clearinghouse http://www.bcpl.net/~dmg Baltimore PC Users Group http://www.baltimorepcug.org Baltimore County Genealogical Society http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html -----Original Message----- From: Steve and Yvonne [mailto:ysbinns@msn.com] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 6:26 PM To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] Tax List question - Shenandoah 1799 Personal Property The tax lists for our 1799 Personal Property Tax List B has an extra column inbetween the date received and the person's name. It's heading in something like "No of Ca??ts". Numbers are in this column, starting with #1. No one in this list appears to have less than 1 of these, and this column is used to categorize the names for each first letter of the surname. On page 14 this column is labelled as "No of Studs", and no other page is like this. Page 47 seems to have the clearest writing. Does anyone know what this column says? Thanks for helping if you can. Steve and Bunny --------- "1790" / "1800" County Tax Lists of Virginia Reconstructed 1790 and 1800 Censuses: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/index.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia A. Baber To: Pat Baber Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 3:40 PM Subject: save list Various ships arriving at the port of Richmond, Va 1832 & 1836. Some of the names are very difficult to read, and may not be correct. I am not experienced with German names and place names and some of them are difficult to read as well as having ink spots, etc on the pages. Lists are from microfilm M575-16 Atlantic Gulf Coast & Great Lakes, Passenger Lists, 1820-1873 from Heritage Quest. Name; age; sex; occupation; country to which they belong; country to which they intend to become inhabitants Ship Richmond Richmond, Jan 2, 1832 Mrs. Elisa Brown; 38; school mistress; United States; Ditto Henry Brown; 13; - ; same Frances Thompson; 20 NFI -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- May 1836 Ship Lucilla; Capt. McCannan from Bremen to Richmond Names; of (country); Occupation; men; women; Children in colums by age; total George Lindner; Oberhechtstadt; Miller; M; -- total 1 Peter Ruppel; Oberlangstad; carpenter; 1M, 2W; 3 ch. 4-8; total 6 Dorothea Reinhardt; Linsburg; - ; 1 W; total 1 Conrad Hohlmeyer; Husum; Smith; 1W; total 1 ( expect the Woman designation is wrong) Heinr Plage; Husum; Taylor; 1M; total 1 Friedrich Kregel; Husum; Farmer; 1M; total 1 Christ. Muller; Erlbach; Farmer; 1M; total 1 August Beckmann; Nienburg; Farmer; 1M; total 1 Wilh. Mensing; Leise; Joiner; 1M; total 1 Heinr Meyer; Nienburg; Tanner; 1M; total 1 Heinr Rodewald; Linsberg; Cooper; 1M; total 1 Heinr Fischer; Linsberg; Farmer; 1M; total 1 C. R. Kaiser; Linsberg; Smith; 1M; total 1 Joh. Diedr. Schutte; Bramkamp; farmer; 1M; total 1 (free passage) Joh. Cord. Kleine; Hille; farmer; 1M; total 1 (half paid passage) Georg. Heinr. Gabe; Havestoh; farmer; 1M; total 1 (half paid passage) August Bodiker; Diepenan; farmer; 1M; total 1 (half paid passage) Fried. Wilh. Eisberg; Lavelstoh; 1M; total 1 (half paid passage) Adolph Kohne; Diepenan; 1M; total 1 (half paid passage) Fried. Wilh. Engelke; Lavelstoh; farmer; 1M; total 1 (Half paid passage) Christ. Horstmeyer; Lavelstoh; farmer; 1M; total 1 (half paid passage) Joh. Deidr. Schwatmeyer; Grofsenforde; farmer; 1M; total 1 (half paid passage) John Heinr. Trampe; Lavelstoh; farmer; 1M; total 1 (half paid passage) Diedr. Christ. Kinde; Harrenstadt; Smith; 1M; total 1 J. H. C. Thielking; Holshansen; farmer; 1M; total 1 Fried. Wilh. Christiani; Friedewald; Smith; 1M; total 1 Heinr. Meyer; Holzhansen; Smith; 1M; total 1 Friedr. Schafer; Nettelstadt; smith; 1M; total 1 Heinr. Elsbe; Warmste; farmer; 1M; total 1 Fried. Wilh. Kunse; Fricdewald; farmer; 1M; total 1 Cord. Heinr. Geischke; Hille; farmer; 1M; total 1 Christ. Wilh. Bohne; Hille; Mason; 1M; total 1 C. H. W. Brockmann; Hille; farmer; 1M; total 1 T. H. Schmollmann; Grofsenvorde; shoemaker; 1M; total 1 (cont'd on next page) Heinr. Buttmann; Hill; farmer; 1m; total 1 Dr. August Muller; Londershauken; - ; 1M; total 1 Friedr. Vogt; Bordstel; farmer; 1M; total 1 Christ. Kunse; Wolpe; farmer; 1M; 1W; 1ch 8-12; 1ch under 1; total 4 Heinr. Hogreve; Borstel; farmer; 1M; 1W; 1ch 8-12; 1 ch 4-8; 1 ch 1-4; total 5 Christ. Klauer; Behne; cooper; 1M; total 1 Joh. Henkel; Grofsenlanghheim; Baker; 1M; total 1 Lazarus Rosenfeld; Uhlfeld; - ; 1M; total 1 Emanuel Levine; Uhlfeld; - ; 1M; total 1 Emanuel Rosenfeld; Uhlfeld; - ; 1M; total 1 Hesikiel Rosenfeld; Uhlfeld; - ; 1M; total 1 Maria Frankenan; Fieseck; 1 M; total 1 Geda Wassermann; Uhlfeld; 1M; total 1 Sophie Gotthold; Spiesberg; 1M; total 1 Babeta Lieberman; Spiesberg; 1M; total 1 Emanuel Dormitzen; Lenkertsheim; 1M; total 1 Julius Gerst; Erlbach; 1M; total 1 Jacob Murr; - ; - ; 1M; total 1 Friedr Hogreve; Linborstal; Butcher; 1 M; total 1 Fried. Hofmeyer; Hessinghanken; farmer; 1M; total 1 Cath. Marg. Brumers; Beckerdorf; - ; 1M; total 1 (free passage) Heinr Blass; Wiedensahl; farmer; 1M; total 1 Fried. Deverding; Wiedensahl; locksmith; 1M; total 1 Ernsteting and Joh. Hinr. Bertram; - ; - ; 1M; 1ch 4-8; total 2 (free passage) Arnold Redeker; Molle; Hunter; 1M; total 1 (free passage) August Greip; Holle; saddler; 1M; total 1 (free passage) Clara Winkler; Molle; - ; 1W; total 1 Gerh. Pohlmann; Molle; carpenter; 1M; total 1 Heinr. Puls; Molle; farmer; 1M; total 1 Wilh. Risch; Molle; Joiner; 1M; total 1 Wilh. Raines; Molle; Gardner; 1M; total 1 Anton Furehteniche; Molle; Gardner; 1M; total 1 Fried. Kleine; Husum; Farmer; 1M; total 1 Fried. Holle; Landsbert; farmer; 1M; total 1 Fried Tomre; Landsberg; farmer; 1M; total 1 Heinr. Rengel; Borgentruch; Mason; 1M; total 1 Leon Weikentsham; Hessdorf; - ; 1M; 1W; total 2 Nicolaus Reib; Wallroth; Taylor; 1 M; total 1 Catharina Kress; Wallroth; - ; 1W; total 1 Johannes Rufer; Taylor; 1M; total 1 Nicholaus Hoflich; Walroth; wagon maker; 2M; 1W; 2 ch 8-12; 1 ch 4-8; total 6 Andreas Staff; Walroth; farmer 1M; total 1 Heinr Schafer; Walroth; weaver; 1M; total 1 Adam Loth; Neuengronan; farmer; 4M; 1W; 2ch 8-12; 1ch 4-8; 1 ch1-4; 1 ch under 1; total 10 Joh's. Kaufmann; Walroth; weaver; 1 M; total 1 Joh's. Link; Walroth; Walroth; shoemaker; 1m: total 1 Joh's Koch; Hintersteinam; farmer; 1M; total 1 Anna Marg. Stoppel; Walroth; - ; 1W; 1 ch 4-8; total 2 Heinr. Kress; Walroth; shoemaker; 1M; total 1 Joh's Hub; Gomfrits; smith; 1M; total 1 Casp. Herche; Schluchtein; farmer; 1M; 1W; 2 ch 4-8; 1 ch 1-4; total 5 Anna Marg. Kress; Walroth; - ; 1W; total 1 Anna Maria Kress; Walroth; - ; 1W; total 1 Joh's Kaufmann; Breitenbach; Waggonmaker; 1M; total 1 Anna Marg. Kress; Walroth; - ; 1W; total 1 (she is listed twice - not a mistake) Andreas Rosenberger; Merfoss; farmer; 3M; 1W; total 4 Heinr. Schmidt; Nevengronan; taylor; 1M; 1W; 1 ch 1-4; 1 ch under 1; total 4 Joh's Muller; Nevengronan; farmer; 1M; 2 W; 1 ch 4-8; 1 ch 1-4; 1 ch under 1; total 6 Joh's Flimer; Nevengronan; Joiner; 1 M; 1 W; 1 ch 1-4; total 3 Heinr. Kress; Walroth; farmer; 1 M; total 1 Elisabeth Rufer; - ; - ; 1 W; total 1 Bremen the 20th May 1836

The tax lists for our 1799 Personal Property Tax List B has an extra column inbetween the date received and the person's name. It's heading in something like "No of Ca??ts". Numbers are in this column, starting with #1. No one in this list appears to have less than 1 of these, and this column is used to categorize the names for each first letter of the surname. On page 14 this column is labelled as "No of Studs", and no other page is like this. Page 47 seems to have the clearest writing. Does anyone know what this column says? Thanks for helping if you can. Steve and Bunny --------- "1790" / "1800" County Tax Lists of Virginia Reconstructed 1790 and 1800 Censuses: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/index.htm

Hi, Searching for an obit from 1911 Rockingham County, Virginia. Jenietta Ann Shifflett died in 1911. She went by Jenny and Ann. There were no death records then but they did have obits. I do not have a date, as everyone who would have known has died at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Donna

I am a subscriber to this newsletter and this article was in this months listings. I thought it a great story of American History and am sending this out for your reading. Maybe ancestor of yours is listed herein. Beej THE HERITAGE TOWN CRIER - 15 December 2003 Celebrate Life - Explore Your Heritage Karen Ackermann, Editor Karen@HeritageBooks.com Copyright 2003 by Heritage Books, Inc. ============================================================ THE GREAT IRON CHAIN ACROSS THE HUDSON - Jack H. Westbrook -------------------------------------------------- In 1778, during the Revolution, as a defense against British naval incursions up the Hudson River, a 1700' iron chain was made in New York State and emplaced across the Hudson at West Point. It was one of the longest and largest chains ever forged and remarkably constituted not only a military and metallurgical success but also a triumph of ad hoc management involving mass production, numerous contractors and subcontractors, interchangeable parts, and quality control, all advanced concepts for the 18th c. In the 1700s the use of iron chain was a new idea in military defense. Early in the war, chains had been put across the Richelieu River in Canada, at the narrows at Ticonderoga, and across the Hudson at Fort Montgomery. These had all failed, either metallurgically or because their emplacement locations were outflanked. General James Clinton in Nov 1777, following up on an earlier suggestion by Jacobus Van Zandt, recommended production and installation of a new, very heavy chain at West Point. George Washington himself chose 32yr - old Lt. Thomas Machin to be the engineer in charge of the project. Machin (1744-1816) had been a participant in the Boston Tea Party, wounded at Bunker Hill, and had helped place the captured cannon brought from Ticonderoga to Dorchester Heights outside Boston. He had little formal education and his engineering experience was limited to 4 years as assistant surveyor and paymaster for an English canal project and an even briefer experience as a mining consultant on a study that brought him to America. Nonetheless he had earned a reputation as a prototypical "can-do" engineer. As the first step, Machin and Deputy Quartermaster General Hugh Hughes studied the available iron manufacturers of New York and chose Sterling Iron Works (Peter Townsend, proprietor) in Orange Co. as prime contractor. A detailed 3-page contract was drawn up and signed on 2 Feb 1778 which provided for design and specifications for the chain, 9 months exemption from military service for the workers, an outside quality control board, and payment amounts and delivery schedule. The chain was to be made of 2 1/4" square bar, forged into links 31 1/2" long on average and 10" wide, weighing about 130 lbs. each. 750 links were required, together with 8 swivel pieces to prevent twisting and 80 clevises to connect individual sections of the chain. Each section of 8 or 9 links, weighing about 1/2 ton, had to be hauled in mid-winter on sledges or wagons, depending on the weather, by 2-yoke of oxen 30 miles north up Central Valley to New Windsor, south of Newburgh. There the sections were joined together with the clevises and pins at Brewster's forge on the south side of Murderer's Creek, stapled to huge 2' d., 16' long logs, and floated down the Hudson to West Point. The price paid Sterling for the chain itself, not including anchors and incidental hardware, was $92,000 (about $10 million in today's money). The Sterling works consisted of their own magnetite iron ore mine, a cold-air blast furnace equipped with a pair of water-powered bellows, 8 fining forges, and 10 welding units. The furnace produced cast iron pigs, 3 to 10' long, 4-5" thick, weighing 135-1000 lbs. each. These were then reheated in a finery forge to burn out the excess carbon. The pig was slowly fed in, melted into a pool on the hearth, and reacted with the oxygen of the air. The process was repeated two or three times, the melting point increasing as the carbon content was reduced. The finery product was a bloom that was then heated and hammered using a water-powered trip- hammer to form a dumbbell-shaped ancony. The final step in producing the wrought iron bar was at the chafery forge where the bulbous ends of the ancony were reduced to uniform size, and the bar elongated and worked to effect a favorable disposition of the slag stringers within the bar. Next, under another trip-hammer, the bars were scarfed (flattened at the ends for subsequent welding), bent around a giant mandrel while hot, and the scarfed ends welded to create a link. The work went on 24 hrs. a day, employing 60 iron workers, and an almost equal number of miners, wood cutters, and teamsters. This tremendous effort resulted in completion of the enormous project in a matter of weeks; the chain was in place across the river by 30 April 1778, an incredible accomplishment! It was fastened at each shore by huge, sunken, stone-filled wooden cribs and further strengthened by anchors. The hazards of winter's ice required the chain to be hauled out each November and re-emplaced the following March by a man-powered capstan, designed and built by Machin for this express purpose. The chain was an outstanding success; in place for five years, it was never broken by current, tides, ice, or British warships. After the War the chain was disassembled, sold for scrap, and remelted. But few of the original links remain today: 13 are in a memorial on the grounds of the West Point Military Academy; 10 others are known to exist in various museums; three such are mounted on the marble wall of the rotunda of the old NYS Educational Building in Albany. Altogether the chain project was, for its time and any time, a remarkable engineering and industrial achievement in design, productivity, and management organization and coordination. More detail on the project can be found in L. Diamant's book, "Chaining the Hudson", Carol Publishing, 1989, on which much of this account is based. Submitted by Jack H. Westbrook, Ballston Spa, New York ============================================================

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Happy New Year!! I'm suspicious of the ancestry of William THOMPSON, husband of Nancy JACKSON...that he may be a descendant of William & Mary (PATTON) THOMPSON. (To my knowledge, William only had two brothers, Richard and John.) Can anyone disprove my suspicions? Thanks bunches!! ~Virginia

I just wanted to say, Freddie, that I really enjoyed looking through your transcription of Volume 2 of the Henning's Statutes. I can tell it took an enourmous amount of your time, and I just want to say a big THANKS! Jayme Tooke Berry

In a message dated 12/31/03 9:03:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time, VAROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: From: "Freddie Spradlin" <fspradlin@earthlink.net> Subject: [VAROOTS] Statutes at Large Volume 2 of Hening's Statutes at Large, is complete, at http://vagenweb.org/hening/ 11 more volumes to go in this project ....<groan> Freddie S. Thank you very much Freddie for the heads up on the Henings Statutes. You are a exceptional friend and list member...........Beej

<< Dedicated genealogists may want to explore this Library of Virginia website to see what has turned up in the past decade or so. No transcripts on line--just lists of documents. Tell your cousins who research Virginia. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/burned/locality-ah.asp E.W.Wallace >> Many thanks!! I perused through it and sent the Darracott information off to a cousin, who lives in VA, and below is her reply: "I cannot believe it!!! William Darracott's will - how wonderful. I had not seen that entry. It is amazing that the will has surfaced." Again, many thanks E. W. Wallace!! ~Virginia

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Thank You E.W. Wallace. Why I have not been back there to check this out is beyond me. But, by looking per your notice, I have found grandchildren of one of my ancesters in the 1700's. Dave Goodman The GOODMAN Clearinghouse http://www.bcpl.net/~dmg Baltimore PC Users Group http://www.baltimorepcug.org Baltimore County Genealogical Society http://www.serve.com/bcgs/bcgs.html -----Original Message----- From: Derrell Oakley Teat [mailto:margaret.teat2@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 10:00 PM To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VAROOTS] Some Documents of Burned Virginia Counties ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com> To: <HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: [HH] Some Documents of Burned Virginia Counties Dedicated genealogists may want to explore this Library of Virginia website to see what has turned up in the past decade or so. No transcripts on line--just lists of documents. Tell your cousins who research Virginia. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/local/burned/locality-ah.asp E.W.Wallace ==== HARRIS-HUNTERS Mailing List ==== HH Archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl HH Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~confido/hindex2.htm HH Data Base: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=harrishunters ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== South Carolina Genealogical Resources http://www.crosswinds.net/~southcarolina/Societies/societies.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

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It's OK here. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Garland" <darlingarlin@adelphia.net> To: <VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] test? > is anyone out there getting my mail? i keep getting my mail back saying > address unknown? > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Donna, I am reading you here in Ohio. :>) Ginny

I'm getting copies of it, so it appears to be going through fine. Happy New Year Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Garland" <darlingarlin@adelphia.net> To: <VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] test? > is anyone out there getting my mail? i keep getting my mail back saying > address unknown? > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

You're mail is getting though to me. Sorry I can't be of help, though, on your questions. On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:18:18 -0500 Donna Garland <darlingarlin@adelphia.net> writes: > is anyone out there getting my mail? i keep getting my mail back > saying > address unknown? > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Thank you, Freddie, for all the work being done and have patience. I am currently working with another partner on doing land transcriptions from handwritten records for the State Archives. We began the project several years ago and we have come maybe half way, so I know it can be discouraging, but just keep persevering. It will happen! and what a service you will have done for the rest of us. Thanks again. Mudfishmom

I can agree with those who have had great experiences. The most rewarding visit that I had was to Taylor County, WVa. in Grafton. Many of the families from the Culpeper/Madison and Spotsylvania counties of Va. migrated there before the Civil War. Although they were short staffed and rather busy, the clerks went out of her way to help me find what I was looking for.. They pointed me to records that I would have not even thought of looking. As well as local repository of records and individuals who knew of the families that I was researching. I got to spend an afternoon with this Old Geezer who rambled on and on about the history and the families who first settled in the county and made small but very significant contributions over the years. I wish that I could have had a recorder and a couple of days to spend with him. What he knows, the real down to grit history, on a personal level is unbelievable. Has anybody gone through the Records of Commitment for The Insane? No kidding. These records often give names of relatives, doctors, neighbors. Often you can find a copy of the petition for hearing and commitment. This can give you a real insight into the families and individuals who often were called on to give witness to the person's condition. The shame is as you look at these records you can see things that today would be overlooked. Many times individuals did not have any family or were orphaned and were sent to the institutions many times for their entire life... Also in the court records you can find where boys were often sent off to the State Industrial School, reform school, because for no more than not having a family. I guess it is wise to say, if it is found in the court house, don't overlook it. You can find very valuable information in the most far fetched records. Happy hunting and best wished for a New Year. John Towles Morris

yep, got it ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Garland To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] test? is anyone out there getting my mail? i keep getting my mail back saying address unknown? ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237