From Ye Old Genealogie Shoppe in Indianapolis I bought a large, half round magnifying glass that is terrific. I print the doc, then enlarge it in a copy machine (so I will have a copy for my files) and use the magnifier. This shop sends reps to all of the genealogy shows and seminars in the Midwest and some in the East, or you can order from them by mail. I get their very good newsletter too. YE OLDE GENEALOGIE SHOPPE 9605 VANDERGRIFF ROAD P. O. BOX 39128 INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46239 TOLL FREE 1-800-419-0200 OFFICE TELEPHONE 317-862-3330 WEBSITE: www.yogs.com <http://www.yogs.com/> E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> E.A.K. in Illinois cristy wrote: > HI all, > > I have some extremely hard to read legal type documents, to do with > land I believe. I tried different ways on the computer to read them > but is still hard. Can anyone recommend anything else. >

is that a phone number in the ad ? if so has anyone checked it out ? with my up coming trip to the east coast, I won't be able to get to that area of VA until the day after the sale ends :( Ken - hdpth-DNA Original Message: ----------------- From: Kith-n-Kin [email protected] Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:09:21 -0700 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, Dorothy >>>Once in a while something rare is found but not whole batches of old records. Of course, anything can happen but this looks like a rip off to me.<<< No reason that I know of that any or all of those items could not have survived. I think this thread got a little confusing. The exact text of the ad is: "An Historical Document, Photograph & Artifact sale Slave, Confederate & Union Documents. Princess Anne county, Norfolk, Military items, 1700's - 1940's, Daguerreo types, Ambro types, Tin types, Nov. 4th, 5th & 6th 3900 Bonney Rd, Va. Bch. 581-7200" I'd sure like to go through the batch myself! Maybe I'll see if my VA Beach cousin would like to be the family rep there. Pat (in Tucson) ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

HI all, I have some extremely hard to read legal type documents, to do with land I believe. I tried different ways on the computer to read them but is still hard. Can anyone recommend anything else. cia, cristy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:19 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] 1793 survey > Ms. Phebe: Here is a 1793 land survey that mentions the steps taken to > gain a patent. > Paul > http://webpages.charter.net/pdd50/1793survey2.jpg > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

THANKS for the info re: the items for sale. I sent it on to my cousin, Steve, in KY. because he has added a wing with several rooms to his home for his huge collection of Civil War artifacts. In fact, he has been called by the TV program, "Histories Mysteries" to help solve Civil War mysteries. He also has written a regimental history for the regiment in which our great grandfather served. Since he is retired, he may want to look into attending this sale. E. Kaspar

Does anyone have a URL for a free On-line site for English Censuses? Thanks, Tim

Paul Is your collection on line? I would enjoy seeing what you have collected. Phebe Morgan

Ms. Phebe: Here is a 1793 land survey that mentions the steps taken to gain a patent. Paul http://webpages.charter.net/pdd50/1793survey2.jpg

Nope, but if there is some specific type document you would like to see, I will scan and post such. --- Original Message ----- From: Phebe To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, Paul Is your collection on line? I would enjoy seeing what you have collected. Phebe Morgan ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.0/134 - Release Date: 10/14/2005

Forwarded by List Mom -----Original Message----- From: Dorene J. Stamper [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 9:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, Sorry to say, I'm sure most of us would not be able to afford ownership of such artifacts and documents. At least there is some ray of hope, and that is how they have survived this long. Maybe some day we all will be able to have the joy of reading, and possibly owning copies. Dorene J. Stamper ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Kelly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, > Records that survived the burning practices of the Revolutionary war, War > of 1812 and the Civil War are indeed precious. > > I heard the British burned records in Ireland and America because the King > owned all the land anyway, and to prevent land ownership after the war > from being proved. > > There must be more motives than that of course, and how much can we > believe of what we hear? > > I would dearly love to peek at those records. > > Don Kelly, descendent of Kelly of King and Queen County, Virginia, era > 1700. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:03 PM > Subject: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, > > >> this is an ad from the virginian pilot classifieds, i am not affliated in >> any way, >> >> i can't believe they are not giving these to libraries or something. but >> here goes: >> >> AN HISTORICAL DOCUMENT, PHOTOGRAPH AND ARTIFACT SALE; >> Slave, Confederate and union documents, princess Anne County, Norfolk, >> military items 1700-1940's, DAGUERREO TYPES, AMBRO TYPES, TIN TYPES, >> NOV 4,5, 6TH 3900 BONNEY ROAD VIRGINIA BEACH VA 757 581 7200 >> >> I can't wait, i've got to go see what this is all about, i probably won't >> be >> to afford anything, but i can go and see anyway. >> good luck! >> kristina >> >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/136 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 > >

All should remember that there are millions of documents, Civil War mementos, tin and other type photos, and relics from all eras of the past. Most are not expensive (or should not be), yet some are almost priceless. Go to the auction, buy what you can afford, but do not plan on such as Lee's or Custer's signatures, anything signed by a Founder/Patriot, newspapers of great historical events, or such as a Civil War Officers' commission or a deed for a slave. That said, if the auction is by reputable folks, there should be many documents that reveal activities of the common man and woman, and of those, 18th and 19th Century materials are PLENTIFUL. I have collected such unimportant materials for 50 years, spent very little, and enjoy every one of those. Many have appeared here, and all students enjoy even the very inexpensive ones. Paul

Hey Kristina, Can you tell me when this sale is to take place. Happy Huntring doc ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, > this is an ad from the virginian pilot classifieds, i am not affliated in > any way, > > i can't believe they are not giving these to libraries or something. but > here goes: > > AN HISTORICAL DOCUMENT, PHOTOGRAPH AND ARTIFACT SALE; > Slave, Confederate and union documents, princess Anne County, Norfolk, > military items 1700-1940's, DAGUERREO TYPES, AMBRO TYPES, TIN TYPES, > NOV 4,5, 6TH 3900 BONNEY ROAD VIRGINIA BEACH VA 757 581 7200 > > I can't wait, i've got to go see what this is all about, i probably won't > be > to afford anything, but i can go and see anyway. > good luck! > kristina > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

This sounds like a rip off to me. The only way this sort of document could have survived burned courthouses would either to have been in private hands meaning they had not gone through the courts or authentic copies and should be certified or that they had been sent to the state capitol before that county courthouse was burned. In case of having been sent to the state capitol they are available for a very nominal fee. Once in a while something rare is found but not whole batches of old records. Of course, anything can happen but this looks like a rip off to me. Dorothy C. White [email protected] 804.795.4296 > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Kelly [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 3:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, > > > Records that survived the burning practices of the > Revolutionary war, War of > 1812 and the Civil War are indeed precious. > > I heard the British burned records in Ireland and America > because the King > owned all the land anyway, and to prevent land ownership > after the war from > being proved. > > There must be more motives than that of course, and how much > can we believe > of what we hear? > > I would dearly love to peek at those records. > > Don Kelly, descendent of Kelly of King and Queen County, > Virginia, era 1700. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:03 PM > Subject: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, > > > > this is an ad from the virginian pilot classifieds, i am > not affliated > > in any way, > > > > i can't believe they are not giving these to libraries or > something. > > but here goes: > > > > AN HISTORICAL DOCUMENT, PHOTOGRAPH AND ARTIFACT SALE; > > Slave, Confederate and union documents, princess Anne > County, Norfolk, > > military items 1700-1940's, DAGUERREO TYPES, AMBRO TYPES, > TIN TYPES, > > NOV 4,5, 6TH 3900 BONNEY ROAD VIRGINIA BEACH VA 757 581 7200 > > > > I can't wait, i've got to go see what this is all about, i probably > > won't > > be > > to afford anything, but i can go and see anyway. > > good luck! > > kristina > > > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New > > content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your > family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added > in the last 12 months. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

this is an ad from the virginian pilot classifieds, i am not affliated in any way, i can't believe they are not giving these to libraries or something. but here goes: AN HISTORICAL DOCUMENT, PHOTOGRAPH AND ARTIFACT SALE; Slave, Confederate and union documents, princess Anne County, Norfolk, military items 1700-1940's, DAGUERREO TYPES, AMBRO TYPES, TIN TYPES, NOV 4,5, 6TH 3900 BONNEY ROAD VIRGINIA BEACH VA 757 581 7200 I can't wait, i've got to go see what this is all about, i probably won't be to afford anything, but i can go and see anyway. good luck! kristina

Very compelling. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kith-n-Kin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: RE: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, > Dorothy > >>>>Once in a while something rare is found but not whole batches of old >>>>records. Of course, anything can > happen but this looks like a rip off to me.<<< > > No reason that I know of that any or all of those items could not have > survived. I think this thread got > a little confusing. > > The exact text of the ad is: > > "An Historical Document, Photograph & Artifact sale Slave, Confederate & > Union Documents. Princess Anne > county, Norfolk, Military items, 1700's - 1940's, Daguerreo types, Ambro > types, Tin types, Nov. 4th, 5th & > 6th 3900 Bonney Rd, Va. Bch. 581-7200" > > I'd sure like to go through the batch myself! Maybe I'll see if my VA > Beach cousin would like to be the > family rep there. > > Pat (in Tucson) > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Dorothy >>>Once in a while something rare is found but not whole batches of old records. Of course, anything can happen but this looks like a rip off to me.<<< No reason that I know of that any or all of those items could not have survived. I think this thread got a little confusing. The exact text of the ad is: "An Historical Document, Photograph & Artifact sale Slave, Confederate & Union Documents. Princess Anne county, Norfolk, Military items, 1700's - 1940's, Daguerreo types, Ambro types, Tin types, Nov. 4th, 5th & 6th 3900 Bonney Rd, Va. Bch. 581-7200" I'd sure like to go through the batch myself! Maybe I'll see if my VA Beach cousin would like to be the family rep there. Pat (in Tucson)

If legitimate, authentic and original, this cache could be worth millions. Even tintype copies made a hundred years after the fact would be valuable. What do y'all think? Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy C. White" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: FW: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, > This sounds like a rip off to me. The only way this sort of document > could > have survived burned courthouses would either to have been in private > hands > meaning they had not gone through the courts or authentic copies and > should > be certified or that they had been sent to the state capitol before that > county courthouse was burned. In case of having been sent to the state > capitol they are available for a very nominal fee. > > Once in a while something rare is found but not whole batches of old > records. Of course, anything can happen but this looks like a rip off to > me. > > Dorothy C. White > [email protected] > 804.795.4296 > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Don Kelly [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 3:29 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, >> >> >> Records that survived the burning practices of the >> Revolutionary war, War of >> 1812 and the Civil War are indeed precious. >> >> I heard the British burned records in Ireland and America >> because the King >> owned all the land anyway, and to prevent land ownership >> after the war from >> being proved. >> >> There must be more motives than that of course, and how much >> can we believe >> of what we hear? >> >> I would dearly love to peek at those records. >> >> Don Kelly, descendent of Kelly of King and Queen County, >> Virginia, era 1700. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:03 PM >> Subject: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, >> >> >> > this is an ad from the virginian pilot classifieds, i am >> not affliated >> > in any way, >> > >> > i can't believe they are not giving these to libraries or >> something. >> > but here goes: >> > >> > AN HISTORICAL DOCUMENT, PHOTOGRAPH AND ARTIFACT SALE; >> > Slave, Confederate and union documents, princess Anne >> County, Norfolk, >> > military items 1700-1940's, DAGUERREO TYPES, AMBRO TYPES, >> TIN TYPES, >> > NOV 4,5, 6TH 3900 BONNEY ROAD VIRGINIA BEACH VA 757 581 7200 >> > >> > I can't wait, i've got to go see what this is all about, i probably >> > won't >> > be >> > to afford anything, but i can go and see anyway. >> > good luck! >> > kristina >> > >> > >> > ============================== >> > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New >> > content added every business day. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your >> family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added >> in the last 12 months. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Records that survived the burning practices of the Revolutionary war, War of 1812 and the Civil War are indeed precious. I heard the British burned records in Ireland and America because the King owned all the land anyway, and to prevent land ownership after the war from being proved. There must be more motives than that of course, and how much can we believe of what we hear? I would dearly love to peek at those records. Don Kelly, descendent of Kelly of King and Queen County, Virginia, era 1700. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: [VAROOTS] slave,confederate and union documents just fyi, > this is an ad from the virginian pilot classifieds, i am not affliated in > any way, > > i can't believe they are not giving these to libraries or something. but > here goes: > > AN HISTORICAL DOCUMENT, PHOTOGRAPH AND ARTIFACT SALE; > Slave, Confederate and union documents, princess Anne County, Norfolk, > military items 1700-1940's, DAGUERREO TYPES, AMBRO TYPES, TIN TYPES, > NOV 4,5, 6TH 3900 BONNEY ROAD VIRGINIA BEACH VA 757 581 7200 > > I can't wait, i've got to go see what this is all about, i probably won't > be > to afford anything, but i can go and see anyway. > good luck! > kristina > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Greetings, I am seeking info on my Paternal grandmother, Lucy, (maiden name LACY). Lucy b. 1860 d. 1948, m. in 1885 to James Thomas Chandler b. 1862 d. 1933. Their children: CHANDLER, Thomas Richard b. 1882 d. 1954, m.. 1913 to Berta Rone b. 1887, d. 1965 CHANDLER, Annie D. b. 1885 d after 1930 m. 1907 to Beverly Younger b. 1885 d. after 1930 CHANDLER, Benjamin, b. 1888, d. 1975 m. 1909 to Mamie Leigh b. 1888 d. 1963 CHANDLER, Marshall b. 1890 d ? CHANDLER, Willie Shepard b. 1891 d. 1975 m. 1914 to Martha Elizabeth Hughes b.1891 d. 1935 CHANDLER, Armistead b. 1893 d. 1968 m. 1916 to Gertrude Chappell b. 1895 d. 1943 CHANDLER, Charlie b. 1895 CHANDLER, Lucy Phoebe b. 1899 d. 1989 CHANDLER, David Dewey b. 1899 CHANDLER, Mary Alice b. 1902 d? m. 1925 to Frank Clark b.? d.? CHANDLER, Laura Henry b. 1902 d. 2002 CHANDLER, Ardelia Pearl b. 1905 d. 1984 =================== Thanks in advance, Larry ==================================== In HALIFAX COUNTY, Va. seeking Afro-American Brown Byrd Chandler Chappell Lacy Younger.

Greetings, I am looking for information on Henrietta Plenty b. abt 1873. In 1900 Henrietta was a servant in the home of Edgar Walker. Henrietta had a daughter Annie b. abt 1895 living with her. Henrietta listed Henry and Susie Plenty as her parents when she m. Daniel Chappell, Nov 10, 1910 in Halifax County VA. Some siblings of Henrietta were: Lewis Abraham Samuel Henry Isaac Sarah Mary, and Fannie. Thanks in advance, Larry ==================================== In HALIFAX COUNTY, Va. seeking Afro-American Brown Byrd Chandler Chappell Lacy Younger.

Greetings, seeking info on: Nannie Chandler b abt 1836 d. 1921 in Halifax County Va, and her children. Nannie might have been a slave to Adolphus Chandler, b. abt 1816, d.1872. Nannie, never married, had the following children. Louise b. abt 1853, -------------------m. James Canada 1872 Mary W. b.abt 1858 ----------------- James Thomas b. abt 1862, d. 1933 -- m. Lucy Lacy 1885 Richard b. abt 1866, -- ------------- m. Bettie Leigh Joicey/Jocey Ann b. abt 1867 --------- m. Henry Easley 1885 Bettie J. b. abt 1869 ------------------ m. John Leigh 1896 Emma b. abt 1870 ------------------- m. Isaac Easley 1885 Sarah H. b. abt 1874 ------------------ m. Vincent Jones 1892 Hallie V. b. abt 1877 ------------------- m. Matthew Younger 1910 Thanks, Larry ==================================== In HALIFAX COUNTY, Va. seeking Afro-American Brown Byrd Chandler Chappell Lacy Younger.