I love this list. It is amazing how one statement of what we think is fact can bring out so many additional pieces of history. We, from childhood, have been taught "the facts" about things as other people want them to be. The beauty of genealogy which translates, if you having fun doing it, to history of your family and where it lived is learning how things really were. I must admit that being a native Virginian I do chuckle about 1619 vs 1621--especially since our daughter is engaged to a young lad from Mass. But..at the end of the day what truly counts is how we enjoy each our other, our family and our church. History is History--no more no less. As usual this Virginian will spend part of Christmas in Va with family, as we have done for 42 years since the Air Force brought me to Florida. Genealogy is a Blast!! Thanks and Happy Holidays Doug

Hi, Don, No relation to Nathan HALE as far as I have yet found, and I have my line back before the Revolution... all in southwest Virginia. Where their roots were before that, I haven't been able to get a handle on, yet. Hope you had a happy Thanksgiving, and many more to come. Carolyn HALE BRUCE Co-author Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots and Rebel King, The Har'ships http://www.RebelKing.com Our newest published title: Virginiana, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia History and Other Stuff http://www.VirginianaBooks.com Hot off the press: Herb Jones, Poet With a Paintbrush by Barbara Jones Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Kelly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] FW: THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATION BY PRESIDENT WILLIAM H. TAFT > This sounds about right Carolyn..........and typical of the history we got > in school, first Thanksgiving with the indians at Plymoth Rock and all > that bit. > > 1619 comes before 1621 here in Oregon too. > > No relationship here, but I am curious if you are related to Nathan Hale? > > Don in Oregon, Fun Histories for kids, Canned Histories, etc. > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Same here.....back a little to 1755, but zilch before that. I did find ships records about Virginia which had a lot of Kelly surnames in them, but I need to find the first Kelly of our line...the father of Alexander Kelly, and then perhaps ships lists will be useful. Cheers Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] FW: THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATION BY PRESIDENT WILLIAM H. TAFT > Hi, Don, > > No relation to Nathan HALE as far as I have yet found, and I have my line > back before the Revolution... all in southwest Virginia. Where their roots > were before that, I haven't been able to get a handle on, yet. > > Hope you had a happy Thanksgiving, and many more to come. > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE > Co-author Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots > and Rebel King, The Har'ships > http://www.RebelKing.com > Our newest published title: Virginiana, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia > History and Other Stuff > http://www.VirginianaBooks.com > Hot off the press: Herb Jones, Poet With a Paintbrush > by Barbara Jones Jones > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Kelly" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] FW: THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATION BY PRESIDENT WILLIAM > H. TAFT > > >> This sounds about right Carolyn..........and typical of the history we >> got in school, first Thanksgiving with the indians at Plymoth Rock and >> all that bit. >> >> 1619 comes before 1621 here in Oregon too. >> >> No relationship here, but I am curious if you are related to Nathan Hale? >> >> Don in Oregon, Fun Histories for kids, Canned Histories, etc. >> >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi all and thanks Doug. I am surprised by the number of descendants who had ancestors in Virginia. For those of us who's ancestors came to the Virginia Colony around 1700, or perhaps even earlier, records repositories having been burned twice find records extant to settlement times extreamly hard to come by. My Kelly settled in King and Queen County so if any of you run across any kind of records for that county before 1750, please let me know where they are. I am from Alaska and now live in Oregon. Have a great holiday all. Don Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? >I love this list. It is amazing how one statement of what we think is fact > can bring out so many additional pieces of history. We, from childhood, > have > been taught "the facts" about things as other people want them to be. The > beauty of genealogy which translates, if you having fun doing it, to > history of > your family and where it lived is learning how things really were. > I must admit that being a native Virginian I do chuckle about 1619 vs > 1621--especially since our daughter is engaged to a young lad from Mass. > But..at the end of the day what truly counts is how we enjoy each our > other, > our family and our church. History is History--no more no less. As usual > this > Virginian will spend part of Christmas in Va with family, as we have done > for > 42 years since the Air Force brought me to Florida. > Genealogy is a Blast!! > Thanks and Happy Holidays > Doug > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Greetings, Did the State of Virginia take its own CENSUS between 1867 and 1871 ? If so, where might I be able to view them ? Thanks in advance, Larry ==================================== In HALIFAX COUNTY, Va. seeking Afro-American Brown Byrd Chandler Chappell Lacy Younger.

I am not too sure about the rest of you but I am a citizen of the United States of America and my first President, George Washington, wrote this proclamation in 1789. http://earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/firsts/thanksgiving/ While attending services this morning, I was reminded of Washington's words-- "A Day of Publick Thanksgiving anf Prayer."

Given the extreme danger and the very harsh nature of sea travel in the early days of our settlement, coupled with the appropriateness of crediting the Almighty with all things "good", I very much suspect that the passengers of MANY ships offered their thanks to the Almighty shortly after arrival on these shores. It is my belief that the formality later accorded the day and celebration of Thanksgiving as a day of rest and thought was a needed invention of several of our Presidents, including Washington and Lincoln. As now, and as with Christmas and Easter, it was thought appropriate that we offer up our thanks on a date and day certain. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> 931-484-9129 ----- Original Message ----- From: JDRodgers To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: [VAROOTS] Proclamation I am not too sure about the rest of you but I am a citizen of the United States of America and my first President, George Washington, wrote this proclamation in 1789. http://earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/firsts/thanksgiving/ While attending services this morning, I was reminded of Washington's words-- "A Day of Publick Thanksgiving anf Prayer." ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/181 - Release Date: 11/24/2005

The first Thanksgiving in America was held in Newfoundland by Martin Frobisher and the Frobisher Expedition in 1578. Bob Juch http://www.Juch.org -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Bruce [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 2:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] FW: THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATION BY PRESIDENT WILLIAM H. TAFT Okay, the Pilgrims held THEIR first Thanksgiving in 1621, a mere two years after the men of a place now called Berkeley Plantation, fell to their knees beside the James River and held the FIRST, First Thanksgiving, Dec. 4, 1619. Further, it was THEN established as an annual observance with these words: "We ordaine that the day of our ships arrivall at the place assigned for plantacon in the land of Virginia shall be yearly and perpetually keept holy as a day of thanksgiving to Almighty God." 1619 comes before 1621, at least here in Virginia. In 1619, the Pilgrims were still in Leyden, Netherlands. Mr. Lincoln was only about two and a half centuries late with his proclamation. Carolyn HALE BRUCE Co-author Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots and Rebel King, The Har'ships http://www.RebelKing.com Our newest published title: Virginiana, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia History and Other Stuff http://www.VirginianaBooks.com Hot off the press: Herb Jones, Poet With a Paintbrush by Barbara Jones Jones

And the Pilgrims sound try to tell the Virginia Colonists that their Thanskgiving did not count. They had the first one before the Pilgrims were even on their ships to leave England. Bev

Okay, the Pilgrims held THEIR first Thanksgiving in 1621, a mere two years after the men of a place now called Berkeley Plantation, fell to their knees beside the James River and held the FIRST, First Thanksgiving, Dec. 4, 1619. Further, it was THEN established as an annual observance with these words: "We ordaine that the day of our ships arrivall at the place assigned for plantacon in the land of Virginia shall be yearly and perpetually keept holy as a day of thanksgiving to Almighty God." 1619 comes before 1621, at least here in Virginia. In 1619, the Pilgrims were still in Leyden, Netherlands. Mr. Lincoln was only about two and a half centuries late with his proclamation. Carolyn HALE BRUCE Co-author Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots and Rebel King, The Har'ships http://www.RebelKing.com Our newest published title: Virginiana, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia History and Other Stuff http://www.VirginianaBooks.com Hot off the press: Herb Jones, Poet With a Paintbrush by Barbara Jones Jones

Hey Dorothy, There has been a program on the History Channel for the past two days that said Lincoln started Thanksgiving. Happy Hunting doc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy C. White" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:48 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] FW: THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATION BY PRESIDENT WILLIAM H. TAFT > > > > Dorothy C. White > [email protected] > 804.795.4296 > > > May each of you have a blessed day with your loved ones or just as a day > of > reflection for all we have to be thankful for today and every day. > > > Thanksgiving the only holiday that hasn't been commercialized or > secularized > > American Minute [email protected] > > THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATION BY PRESIDENT WILLIAM H. TAFT: > "This year of 1910 is drawing to a close. > The records of population and harvests which are the index of progress > show > vigorous national growth and the health and prosperous well-being of our > communities throughout this land and in our possessions beyond the seas. > These blessings have not descended upon us in restricted measure, but > overflow and abound. > They are the blessings and bounty of God... > Now, therefore, I, WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT, President of the United States of > America, in accordance with the wise custom of the civil magistrate since > the first settlements in this land and with the rule established from the > foundation of this Government, > do appoint Thursday, November 24, 1910, as a day of National Thanksgiving > and Prayer, enjoining the people upon that day to meet in their churches > for > the praise of Almighty God and to return heartfelt thanks to Him for all > His > goodness and loving-kindness... > Done at the city of Washington...in the year of our Lord one thousand nine > hundred and ten." > > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< > The worst moment for an atheist comes when he is really thankful and has > no > one to thank.- Unknown > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

This sounds about right Carolyn..........and typical of the history we got in school, first Thanksgiving with the indians at Plymoth Rock and all that bit. 1619 comes before 1621 here in Oregon too. No relationship here, but I am curious if you are related to Nathan Hale? Don in Oregon, Fun Histories for kids, Canned Histories, etc.

Dorothy C. White [email protected] 804.795.4296 May each of you have a blessed day with your loved ones or just as a day of reflection for all we have to be thankful for today and every day. Thanksgiving the only holiday that hasn't been commercialized or secularized American Minute [email protected] THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATION BY PRESIDENT WILLIAM H. TAFT: "This year of 1910 is drawing to a close. The records of population and harvests which are the index of progress show vigorous national growth and the health and prosperous well-being of our communities throughout this land and in our possessions beyond the seas. These blessings have not descended upon us in restricted measure, but overflow and abound. They are the blessings and bounty of God... Now, therefore, I, WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT, President of the United States of America, in accordance with the wise custom of the civil magistrate since the first settlements in this land and with the rule established from the foundation of this Government, do appoint Thursday, November 24, 1910, as a day of National Thanksgiving and Prayer, enjoining the people upon that day to meet in their churches for the praise of Almighty God and to return heartfelt thanks to Him for all His goodness and loving-kindness... Done at the city of Washington...in the year of our Lord one thousand nine hundred and ten." <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< The worst moment for an atheist comes when he is really thankful and has no one to thank.- Unknown

Yes, Lincoln invented Thanksgiving day like the Russians invented the airplane. The television program should try to tell the Pilgrims the news.<GRIN> Lincoln may be better known as promulgating processes from his predicessor and congress that triggered the beginning of the Civil War. Everyone have a safe and fun Thanksgiving day, and the whole holiday season. Don

Hi Gang, Its been a long time since I have posted here but wanted to remind those oldies and newbies that I still do FREE research here at Andersonville for the asking. I'm a part time historian and Volunteer at Andersonville and I have the newest revision of the historic site database here at my home and at my fingertips. If anyone needs any lookups, please just drop me an email. Kevin Frye Butler Georgia Andersonville Historic Site Historian / NPS Volunteer www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html

Very generous of you, Kevin Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> 931-484-9129 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Frye To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] Andersonville Civil War POW site Hi Gang, Its been a long time since I have posted here but wanted to remind those oldies and newbies that I still do FREE research here at Andersonville for the asking. I'm a part time historian and Volunteer at Andersonville and I have the newest revision of the historic site database here at my home and at my fingertips. If anyone needs any lookups, please just drop me an email. Kevin Frye Butler Georgia Andersonville Historic Site Historian / NPS Volunteer www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.6/179 - Release Date: 11/23/2005

Can't help you with that. I have a David Cosby, but he lived in Powhatan Co. I only have him because his daughter married an Atkinson. Jan Lois Long Carey wrote: > Thank you Jan. I am looking for any connection > to a David C. Robinson b. abt. 1789 who may > also have a connection to the Cosby family > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Ashford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:00 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Cosby and Robinson in Albemarle Co. Va 1872 > > > >>There are two Cosby households listed on the 1870 Albemarle census in >>Ivy Depot. Both are listed as farmers. >>p. 109 >>Cosby Jno. N 62 VA >> Elizabeth J 52 VA >> Mary S 26 VA >> Ann M 17 VA >> James L 16 VA >> Charles L 13 VA >> Wm. L 10 VA (Some of the L initials may be S) >> >>p. 103 >>Cosby Wm H 57 VA >> Sarah F 47 VA >> Wm G 18 VA >> Sue Lu 16 VA >> Charles W 13 VA >> Linnie B 8 VA >> Morris W 3 VA >>Harris Jno G 70 VA no occupation >>Shackleford John 19 VA farm hand >> >> >>There are no William J Robinsons on the 1870 census. The only Williams >>are the following: >>Wm H Robinson Charlottesville, Albemarle, VA abt 1814 Virginia >>White Male >>Wm B Robinson Samuel Miller, Albemarle, VA abt 1857 Virginia White >>Male >>Wm M Robinson Samuel Miller, Albemarle, VA abt 1856 Virginia White >>Male >> >>I am wondering if this is a sale to satisfy a defaulted mortgage. There >>should be records in the county courts and/or in the deed records. >> >>Hope this helps. >>Jan >> >>Lois Long Carey wrote: >> >>>from a posting of the Richmond Daily Whig >>> >>>Trustee's sale of Cosby Property >>>in Albemarle County, Va >>> >>>property situated at Ivy Depot,on the Chesapeake and >>>Ohio Railroad in Albemarle >>> >>>a highly productive little farm of 30 acre, immediately >>>at the depot with and excellent and convenient >>>residence upon it, now occupied by Mr. Cosby >>>as a residence >>> >>>Wm. J. Robinson trustee >>> >>>Can someone find either Mr. Cosby or Mr Robinson >>>in the census for that year and possibly see what >>>other members of their families there were. >>> >>>Thank you >>> >>> >>>============================== >>>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Thank you Jan. I am looking for any connection to a David C. Robinson b. abt. 1789 who may also have a connection to the Cosby family ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Ashford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Cosby and Robinson in Albemarle Co. Va 1872 > There are two Cosby households listed on the 1870 Albemarle census in > Ivy Depot. Both are listed as farmers. > p. 109 > Cosby Jno. N 62 VA > Elizabeth J 52 VA > Mary S 26 VA > Ann M 17 VA > James L 16 VA > Charles L 13 VA > Wm. L 10 VA (Some of the L initials may be S) > > p. 103 > Cosby Wm H 57 VA > Sarah F 47 VA > Wm G 18 VA > Sue Lu 16 VA > Charles W 13 VA > Linnie B 8 VA > Morris W 3 VA > Harris Jno G 70 VA no occupation > Shackleford John 19 VA farm hand > > > There are no William J Robinsons on the 1870 census. The only Williams > are the following: > Wm H Robinson Charlottesville, Albemarle, VA abt 1814 Virginia > White Male > Wm B Robinson Samuel Miller, Albemarle, VA abt 1857 Virginia White > Male > Wm M Robinson Samuel Miller, Albemarle, VA abt 1856 Virginia White > Male > > I am wondering if this is a sale to satisfy a defaulted mortgage. There > should be records in the county courts and/or in the deed records. > > Hope this helps. > Jan > > Lois Long Carey wrote: > > from a posting of the Richmond Daily Whig > > > > Trustee's sale of Cosby Property > > in Albemarle County, Va > > > > property situated at Ivy Depot,on the Chesapeake and > > Ohio Railroad in Albemarle > > > > a highly productive little farm of 30 acre, immediately > > at the depot with and excellent and convenient > > residence upon it, now occupied by Mr. Cosby > > as a residence > > > > Wm. J. Robinson trustee > > > > Can someone find either Mr. Cosby or Mr Robinson > > in the census for that year and possibly see what > > other members of their families there were. > > > > Thank you > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

There are two Cosby households listed on the 1870 Albemarle census in Ivy Depot. Both are listed as farmers. p. 109 Cosby Jno. N 62 VA Elizabeth J 52 VA Mary S 26 VA Ann M 17 VA James L 16 VA Charles L 13 VA Wm. L 10 VA (Some of the L initials may be S) p. 103 Cosby Wm H 57 VA Sarah F 47 VA Wm G 18 VA Sue Lu 16 VA Charles W 13 VA Linnie B 8 VA Morris W 3 VA Harris Jno G 70 VA no occupation Shackleford John 19 VA farm hand There are no William J Robinsons on the 1870 census. The only Williams are the following: Wm H Robinson Charlottesville, Albemarle, VA abt 1814 Virginia White Male Wm B Robinson Samuel Miller, Albemarle, VA abt 1857 Virginia White Male Wm M Robinson Samuel Miller, Albemarle, VA abt 1856 Virginia White Male I am wondering if this is a sale to satisfy a defaulted mortgage. There should be records in the county courts and/or in the deed records. Hope this helps. Jan Lois Long Carey wrote: > from a posting of the Richmond Daily Whig > > Trustee's sale of Cosby Property > in Albemarle County, Va > > property situated at Ivy Depot,on the Chesapeake and > Ohio Railroad in Albemarle > > a highly productive little farm of 30 acre, immediately > at the depot with and excellent and convenient > residence upon it, now occupied by Mr. Cosby > as a residence > > Wm. J. Robinson trustee > > Can someone find either Mr. Cosby or Mr Robinson > in the census for that year and possibly see what > other members of their families there were. > > Thank you > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

from a posting of the Richmond Daily Whig Trustee's sale of Cosby Property in Albemarle County, Va property situated at Ivy Depot,on the Chesapeake and Ohio Railroad in Albemarle a highly productive little farm of 30 acre, immediately at the depot with and excellent and convenient residence upon it, now occupied by Mr. Cosby as a residence Wm. J. Robinson trustee Can someone find either Mr. Cosby or Mr Robinson in the census for that year and possibly see what other members of their families there were. Thank you