Paul, so for this one below, I could find the parish book and minutes books in the Portsmouth library, the main library downtown you think? christy Norfolk - Elizabeth River; Portsmouth; St. Brides

Nevermind! ;) christy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:58 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] Re: [Hancock County List] Virginia parish list > Sorry; here is the corrected URL for the parish list: > > http://webpages.charter.net/pdd50/parishcompletelist.doc > > Paul Drake JD > Genealogist & Author > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > 931-484-9129 > > > ==== OHHANCOC Mailing List ==== > Hancock County, Ohio - OHGenWeb Project > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhancoc/hanmain.html > View Queries, Surnames and other relevant research information > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 > > > >

Hi Paul, The link is not working. Maybe the server is busy. christy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:47 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] Virginia parish list >I have been asked to again post to my website the names of the Virginia >parishes and the counties served by those parishes, as well as the list of >published Registers and Vestry Minutes. Here is that list: > > http://webpages.charter.net/pdd50/parishcompletelist.jpg > > Paul Drake JD > Genealogist & Author > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > 931-484-9129 > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

I would think so. :-) Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> 931-484-9129 ----- Original Message ----- From: cristy To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Re: [Hancock County List] Virginia parish list Paul, so for this one below, I could find the parish book and minutes books in the Portsmouth library, the main library downtown you think? christy Norfolk - Elizabeth River; Portsmouth; St. Brides ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005

Hey Paul, what parish records are there for NC? Thanks a lot. Joe from Ohio. *** Here, again, and contrary to what previously has been written, records remain for several parishes. I have in my library a copy of the vestry minutes of St. Paul's of Chowan (1701-1776) and some of the records remain for St. Andrew's in Tyrril and for Southwest Parish of Pasquotank. Then too, some of the Vestry Book of St. John's of Beaufort for the years 1742 and following remain, and the St. Peters registry also is available at BHM Library, though it may not be checked out. The 1754 NC Vestry Act established the 24 parishes for the NC Colony (Chapter IV, 1754 Session laws). That act also appears in Colonial Records of North Carolina, vol. 25. pp. 298-304. My thanks to Steve Case of NC Archives and to Joann Harley, Terria Baynor, and Sharon Gable (and to Google) for portions of the information following: The parishes are/were as follows by name and then are listed the counties served by those. St. Paul's, Chowan Berkeley, Perquimans St. John's, Pasquotank St. Peter's, Pasquotank Currituck, Currituck Society, Bertie St. Andrew's, Tyrrell St. Thomas's, Beaufort St. George's, Hyde North-West, Northampton St. John's, Granville St. Matthew's, Orange St. Luke's, Rowan St. David's, Cumberland St. Gabriel's, Duplin St. George's, Anson Edgecombe, Edgecombe St. Martin's, Bladen St. James's, east side of Cape Fear River St. Philip's, west side of Cape Fear River St. Patrick's, Johnson Christ Church, Craven St. John's, Onslow St. John's, Carteret Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> 931-484-9129

hhhmmmmmmmmmm ????? Try again later??? Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> 931-484-9129 ----- Original Message ----- From: cristy To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Virginia parish list Hi Paul, The link is not working. Maybe the server is busy. christy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:47 AM Subject: [VAROOTS] Virginia parish list >I have been asked to again post to my website the names of the Virginia >parishes and the counties served by those parishes, as well as the list of >published Registers and Vestry Minutes. Here is that list: > > http://webpages.charter.net/pdd50/parishcompletelist.jpg > > Paul Drake JD > Genealogist & Author > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > 931-484-9129 > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005

Sorry; here is the corrected URL for the parish list: http://webpages.charter.net/pdd50/parishcompletelist.doc Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> 931-484-9129 ==== OHHANCOC Mailing List ==== Hancock County, Ohio - OHGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhancoc/hanmain.html View Queries, Surnames and other relevant research information ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005

I have been asked to again post to my website the names of the Virginia parishes and the counties served by those parishes, as well as the list of published Registers and Vestry Minutes. Here is that list: http://webpages.charter.net/pdd50/parishcompletelist.jpg Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> 931-484-9129

Yep, and I will post the list to my web site before noon today. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> 931-484-9129 ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 11:48 PM Subject: [VAROOTS] Re: Parish Records Paul & others: I have a question about the Parish Records... Maybe you know.. Is there a list of Virginia Parish records that are available for research? My early family, Daniel Maupin, Sr. and his parents, Gabriel Maupin & wife Maria (Hersent) Maupin lived in Williamsburg. It is believed that she is buried in the Bruton Parish church. Are there records of burials in said church? Also in Albemarle Co. VA where their son Daniel, Sr. (my 6th great grandfather) moved to and is buried.. are there parish records there? Thanks, Ellie Stites Swanger ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005

Thanks Bev, I have a Frances Vassor with a Wm Hutchins age 5 in Norfolk, VA census 1850, not sure if hes mine yet. She is 27. Could be a friend or distant relative raising him or mother, I dont know. christy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] last name of child out of wedlock > In a message dated 11/26/2005 12:24:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > Does anyone know if it would have been possible for a child born out of > wedlock back about 1845 to be given the last name of the father even if > being raised by the mother whom did not marry his father? > > thanks, > christy > Yes - it is possible. There were cases where the father claimed his > baseborn > children, especially sons, and left them part or all of his estate at > death. > > Bev > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 11/26/2005 12:24:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Does anyone know if it would have been possible for a child born out of wedlock back about 1845 to be given the last name of the father even if being raised by the mother whom did not marry his father? thanks, christy Yes - it is possible. There were cases where the father claimed his baseborn children, especially sons, and left them part or all of his estate at death. Bev

Paul & others: I have a question about the Parish Records... Maybe you know.. Is there a list of Virginia Parish records that are available for research? My early family, Daniel Maupin, Sr. and his parents, Gabriel Maupin & wife Maria (Hersent) Maupin lived in Williamsburg. It is believed that she is buried in the Bruton Parish church. Are there records of burials in said church? Also in Albemarle Co. VA where their son Daniel, Sr. (my 6th great grandfather) moved to and is buried.. are there parish records there? Thanks, Ellie Stites Swanger

Does anyone know if it would have been possible for a child born out of wedlock back about 1845 to be given the last name of the father even if being raised by the mother whom did not marry his father? thanks, christy

Thanks, I know some of my Sapp's were definitely in VA. Nathaniel Sapp was born in VA in 1799 and married in Grayson Co., VA in 1820. There is a record of the marriage. Pat > Just as another jumping off place - I went to > school with a Robert Sapp in Fairfax County, VA > in the 1940's. Knowing how families migrate that > might be another area to look. > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

I am searching for parish records from Westmoreland County, Virgina from the time period of 1750 to around 1800 but very few seem to have survived. Karen

Hello Listers Could SKS with access to the above censuses for Virginia do a lookup for me please. I would like to find: John Gilmour born - not known his wife Isabella born Cumberland England abt 1855 A son also named John was born around 1889 does anyone know if Ancestry .com has got the above censuses for Virginia online! Regards Enid England

thank you Paul. christy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > Those volumes/records named appear in the better libraries, the VA > archives, and in many county libraries in which those parishes existed. > Also check LDS. > > Paul Drake JD > Genealogist & Author > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > 931-484-9129 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pat Mims > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > How do you find these records, Paul? > Pat > > > > > Parish records are the most overlooked of all local records, though > those > > reveal a world about the activities of the parishioners and the > neighbors > > of your people. I honestly do not think anyone can say they have > search > > without reading all registers/vestry records that remain for the > "wheres" > > of an ancestor. That applies equally to ALL extant church records for > the > > same areas. > > Religion was a very large part of the daily lives of our people. > > > > Paul Drake JD > > Genealogist & Author > > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > > 931-484-9129 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: cristy > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > Seems awhile back I did a quick search via online and found a Frances > > Hutchins in Nansemond parish somewhere but cant recall now. But it > was a > > male not female. I recall awhile back some info on the list about > > parishes. > > > > christy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 4:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > > > > Hey, Cristy, have you checked the parish registers/vestries ?? > > > > > > Paul Drake JD > > > Genealogist & Author > > > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > > > 931-484-9129 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: cristy > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 2:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > > > > > > Hi Joyce. > > > > > > I am looking for "William Henry Hutchins/Hutchens could be other > > > variations > > > such as Hudgins or other. > > > I am told it was originally Hutchens and later changed to Hutchins > but > > > on > > > his marriage certificate looks like Hutchins to me. He was married > to > > > Frances Lasssiter whom was from Nansemond Co, VA. His parents on > his > > > marriage certificate listed as Aaron and Frances Hutchins. > > > > > > > > > christy > > > christy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Joyce Dever" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 2:49 PM > > > Subject: RE: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Christy What are their names? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: cristy [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 11:32 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > > > > > > > > > I am stuck on my brick wall. Does anyone have a good suggestion? > > My > > > main > > > > line Im searching I only have back to 1868 with a marriage > > > > license/certificate having them married in Norfolk, VA. I find > them > > on > > > > the > > > > 1870 census in Norfolk, VA and then find wife on 1900 census > after > > her > > > > husband supposedly died. I cannot find them in the 1880 census > > > anywhere. > > > > I > > > > have tried various spellings. He supposedly died about 1888, > that > > is > > > all > > > > I > > > > know. I have his parents names also according to the certificate > > but > > > not > > > > found him either. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > christy > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > christy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > > > ancestors > > > > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. 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That would be Norfolk county in Va, where would I look for the parish records for that county? Thanks, christy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > you have to decide in what counties your people lived and look for the > parish records for those counties. > > Paul Drake JD > Genealogist & Author > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > 931-484-9129 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: cristy > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:21 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > Hi Paul, > > How do I know where to look? Which ones? > > christy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > Parish records are the most overlooked of all local records, though > those > > reveal a world about the activities of the parishioners and the > neighbors > > of your people. I honestly do not think anyone can say they have > search > > without reading all registers/vestry records that remain for the > "wheres" > > of an ancestor. That applies equally to ALL extant church records for > the > > same areas. > > Religion was a very large part of the daily lives of our people. > > > > Paul Drake JD > > Genealogist & Author > > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > > 931-484-9129 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: cristy > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > Seems awhile back I did a quick search via online and found a Frances > > Hutchins in Nansemond parish somewhere but cant recall now. But it > was a > > male not female. I recall awhile back some info on the list about > > parishes. > > > > christy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 4:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > > > > Hey, Cristy, have you checked the parish registers/vestries ?? > > > > > > Paul Drake JD > > > Genealogist & Author > > > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > > > 931-484-9129 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: cristy > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 2:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > > > > > > Hi Joyce. > > > > > > I am looking for "William Henry Hutchins/Hutchens could be other > > > variations > > > such as Hudgins or other. > > > I am told it was originally Hutchens and later changed to Hutchins > but > > > on > > > his marriage certificate looks like Hutchins to me. He was married > to > > > Frances Lasssiter whom was from Nansemond Co, VA. His parents on > his > > > marriage certificate listed as Aaron and Frances Hutchins. > > > > > > > > > christy > > > christy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Joyce Dever" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 2:49 PM > > > Subject: RE: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Christy What are their names? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: cristy [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 11:32 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [VAROOTS] brick wall > > > > > > > > > > > > I am stuck on my brick wall. Does anyone have a good suggestion? > > My > > > main > > > > line Im searching I only have back to 1868 with a marriage > > > > license/certificate having them married in Norfolk, VA. I find > them > > on > > > > the > > > > 1870 census in Norfolk, VA and then find wife on 1900 census > after > > her > > > > husband supposedly died. I cannot find them in the 1880 census > > > anywhere. > > > > I > > > > have tried various spellings. He supposedly died about 1888, > that > > is > > > all > > > > I > > > > know. I have his parents names also according to the certificate > > but > > > not > > > > found him either. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > christy > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > christy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > > > ancestors > > > > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. 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Hi Bev, Yes, you have some good points ;). I did do hunt through other states in my census searching coming up empty but yes other things could be the reason too, it is just frustrating. I will have to try and get more creative in my hunting. I had also thought about looking at neighbors as you suggested and so far came up with nothing. christy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] brick wall > In a message dated 11/25/2005 2:32:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > I am stuck on my brick wall. Does anyone have a good suggestion? My main > line Im searching I only have back to 1868 with a marriage > license/certificate having them married in Norfolk, VA. I find them on > the > 1870 census in Norfolk, VA and then find wife on 1900 census after her > husband supposedly died. I cannot find them in the 1880 census anywhere. > I > have tried various spellings. He supposedly died about 1888, that is all > I > know. I have his parents names also according to the certificate but not > found him either. > Christy - > > There are a number of reasons for him not to be on the census - 1) he died > before you think, 2) they temporarily moved somewhere out of state - maybe > just > over the line into NC? an 3) the name is spelled so badly that you cannot > find > him. OK 4 - he was just left out! You might try looking for the > neighbors > shown in the last census and see if by some chance, they are still > neighbors to > a family that matches his but with a badly spelled surname. > > Bev > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Pat You might want to post a query on the list that covers the Delmarva Peninsula. There are, and have been since English came to Delaware, or the lower three counties of PA, or the Jersies, depending on who or what you read, many families named Sapp. They tend, here in DE, to be in the Kent Co area, around what is now Dover, but were found in the other two counties as well. Many people from this area, on the Delmarva Peninsula, often went down the Chesapeake Bay to VA. It's not a long trip, to say the least. Where I live in DE, I"m 7 miles from the MD border, and then perhaps 4 miles to the Chesapeake Bay. I have many ancestors that went back and forth between MD and VA, in the 1600's. They ended up staying in VA by the later 1600's, but worked that headright system fairly well. I have no connection to the Sapp's, other than knowing they were/are here, and knowing where some are in cemeteries, only by wandering past. Actually, some are buried right outside the Delaware State Museum, which was once a church, and enclosed by a huge cemetery in Dover DE. Just figured you might have to check other areas besides VA. They may not have come directly from whatever country of origin to VA, but migrated, early, from DE, MD or eastern shore VA (they're there too) to mainland VA. Happy Hunting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? > Hi, Pat. You may have to search and run down ALL the Sapps who appear here > anywhere at the same time that your line first shows up. > > Sometimes brick walls are so strong that one needs to jump over the wall, > go into the years before the wall, and run down EVERY appearance of that > surname to a point where those distant folks are either positively > eliminated or you learn that those appearances justify further study. > > Remember: Though there will be exceptions found, you may be reasonably > sure that the surname you have was that of the man's parents and they > lived some WHERE. > > Paul Drake JD > Genealogist & Author > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > 931-484-9129 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pat Mims > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? > > > My Sapp family came in the 1700's I believe late 1700's but I can't find > much on them earlier than 1799 in VA. It can really be frustrating when > you > know they came on a ship, unless they were extremely strong swimmers, and > there is no record of them. Of course knowing a first name might also be > helpful. (big grin) > Pat Mims > > > > > Hi all and thanks Doug. > > I am surprised by the number of descendants who had ancestors in > Virginia. > > For those of us who's ancestors came to the Virginia Colony around > 1700, > > or perhaps even earlier, records repositories having been burned twice > > find records extant to settlement times extreamly hard to come by. My > > Kelly settled in King and Queen County so if any of you run across any > > kind of records for that county before 1750, please let me know where > they > > are. I am from Alaska and now live in Oregon. > > Have a great holiday all. > > Don Kelly > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:24 AM > > Subject: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? > > > > > >>I love this list. It is amazing how one statement of what we think is > >>fact > >> can bring out so many additional pieces of history. We, from > childhood, > >> have > >> been taught "the facts" about things as other people want them to be. > >> The > >> beauty of genealogy which translates, if you having fun doing it, to > >> history of > >> your family and where it lived is learning how things really were. > >> I must admit that being a native Virginian I do chuckle about 1619 vs > >> 1621--especially since our daughter is engaged to a young lad from > Mass. > >> But..at the end of the day what truly counts is how we enjoy each our > >> other, > >> our family and our church. History is History--no more no less. As > usual > >> this > >> Virginian will spend part of Christmas in Va with family, as we have > done > >> for > >> 42 years since the Air Force brought me to Florida. > >> Genealogy is a Blast!! > >> Thanks and Happy Holidays > >> Doug > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >> > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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