At 10:40 AM 11/21/1999 EST, you wrote: >In reference to Capt. Holeman's men: the men with the last name of Cirkel or >Cirkle might be the same as Zirkle or Zirkel? I agree! In addition, I am researching the HULVEY surname, and there were two HOLVERs (John and George) on the list. I am sure the name later became HULVEY. Jim Messersmith