This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Miller, Long, Carpenter, Zimmerman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5BC.2ACI/1284.2 Message Board Post: John, I have info on the Fudge / Shitley connection to Zimmerman / Carpenter. I am looking for the parents of Mathias Cartenter as he is a part of the scenario. Could he be a son of George? Mathias married Elizabeth Miller 1768 in Deep Creek, Rowan County, NC.