Often when the bodies were buried, they were marked by wooden headboards. This was the case in most National Cemeteries including here at Andersonville. Stone grave markers were to replace the wooden markers for years and the standard civil war grave marker you mostly see with the shield were not made until 1898. Its possible he was registered there and the wooden marker was damaged beyond being read. We have a copy of the " Official Roster of the Soldiers of the State of Ohio" in our archives at Andersonville. I will be there tomorrow and will look him up and see what is mentioned. Ill even copy the page he is recorded on and email it to you. Just a thought. Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Garratt" <pgarratt@gessert.us> To: <varockin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [VAROCKIN] Name of cemetery on Cemetery Road in Mt Crawford > Thanks for your response, Kevin. That's my guy. > > I actually subscribed to that database just to see what I could find on > him > and found what you found. So the other day I called and they said he was > not > buried there. I asked about unmarked graves and they seemed to think that > was unlikely. But as you point out, it could certainly be a possibility. > There are several family stories about him and so far all have been proven > true, so we are slightly inclined to think he was actually buried on Mt > Crawford right where he fell, which I'm told happened a lot during the > Civil > War...although more so in the first years of the conflict when things were > far less organized. > > If he is in an unmarked grave at Staunton, do you know how that would have > happened? I mean, his regiment knew who he was. And someone knew enough to > log him in as being buried in Staunton. Were things so chaotic that men > were > just buried without any name tied to them? > > > > Phyllis > > -----Original Message----- > Frederick Brandt > Residence was not listed; 28 years old. > Enlisted on 6/13/1861 as a Private. > On 7/6/1861 he mustered into "H" Co. OH 28th Infantry > He was Killed on 6/5/1864 at Piedmont, VA > Other Information: > Buried: Staunton National Cemetery, Staunton, VA > Sources used by Historical Data Systems, Inc.: > - Official Roster of the Soldiers of the State of Ohio > - Roll of Honor of Ohio Soldiers > (c) Historical Data Systems, Inc. @ www.civilwardata.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1460 - Release Date: 5/22/2008 > 7:06 AM > >
Phyllis, Piedmont, WV is in the mountains near the Potomac River. The nearest larger town is Cumberland, Maryland. The B&O Railroad passed through Piedmont, and there were numerous skirmishes and battles between Union and Confederate forces to gain control over the railroad. Piedmont, in 1864, was in Hampshire County, WV and in 1866 or 1877 Mineral County was formed. Piedmont fell into the new County, as it is still there. I should add that WV became a State in June 1863 so, technically, Piedmont was in WV in 1864 when your guy was killed. I have seen several such mistakes during the 1863-1864 time (VA vs WV), just as we sometimes fail to record the correct year in our checkbook after New Years Day. I am not a Civil War expert, but I know the areas. I don't understand why he was buried in Staunton, VA. I was born and raised in Rockingham County and never heard of a Piedmont in the County. From Rockingham County, crossing over the Blue Ridge Mountains (east) is a geo-cultural region called Piedmont that stretches into North Carolina. But it is a geographic area and not a town. Rockingham County is in the heart of the Shenandoah Valley. There is truth in all the information you have, but a mistake or omission and a missing link. It can be solved. Keep on digging. That is my two-cents worth. Wilmer L. Kerns -----Original Message----- From: varockin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varockin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Frye Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:14 PM To: varockin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAROCKIN] Name of cemetery on Cemetery Road in Mt Crawford Often when the bodies were buried, they were marked by wooden headboards. This was the case in most National Cemeteries including here at Andersonville. Stone grave markers were to replace the wooden markers for years and the standard civil war grave marker you mostly see with the shield were not made until 1898. Its possible he was registered there and the wooden marker was damaged beyond being read. We have a copy of the " Official Roster of the Soldiers of the State of Ohio" in our archives at Andersonville. I will be there tomorrow and will look him up and see what is mentioned. Ill even copy the page he is recorded on and email it to you. Just a thought. Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Garratt" <pgarratt@gessert.us> To: <varockin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [VAROCKIN] Name of cemetery on Cemetery Road in Mt Crawford > Thanks for your response, Kevin. That's my guy. > > I actually subscribed to that database just to see what I could find on > him > and found what you found. So the other day I called and they said he was > not > buried there. I asked about unmarked graves and they seemed to think that > was unlikely. But as you point out, it could certainly be a possibility. > There are several family stories about him and so far all have been proven > true, so we are slightly inclined to think he was actually buried on Mt > Crawford right where he fell, which I'm told happened a lot during the > Civil > War...although more so in the first years of the conflict when things were > far less organized. > > If he is in an unmarked grave at Staunton, do you know how that would have > happened? I mean, his regiment knew who he was. And someone knew enough to > log him in as being buried in Staunton. Were things so chaotic that men > were > just buried without any name tied to them? > > > > Phyllis > > -----Original Message----- > Frederick Brandt > Residence was not listed; 28 years old. > Enlisted on 6/13/1861 as a Private. > On 7/6/1861 he mustered into "H" Co. OH 28th Infantry > He was Killed on 6/5/1864 at Piedmont, VA > Other Information: > Buried: Staunton National Cemetery, Staunton, VA > Sources used by Historical Data Systems, Inc.: > - Official Roster of the Soldiers of the State of Ohio > - Roll of Honor of Ohio Soldiers > (c) Historical Data Systems, Inc. @ www.civilwardata.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1460 - Release Date: 5/22/2008 > 7:06 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The Battle of Piedmont took place a couple miles north of New Hope in Augusta County, Virginia. Here is the link to a Mapquest map of the area. http://www.mapquest.com/maps/New+Hope+VA/ If you zoom in enough, you'll find that the road that goes through New Hope is called Battlefield Road. There is a stone marker along the road where the battle took place. This link gives information on the battle. http://valley.vcdh.virginia.edu/HIUS403/auhome/piedmont.html Staunton is about 8 miles SW. I grew up in Grottoes, which is about 4 miles NE of the battlefield. Jim Messersmith Rockville, VA At 11:17 PM 5/22/2008 , you wrote: >Phyllis, > >Piedmont, WV is in the mountains near the Potomac River. The nearest larger >town is Cumberland, Maryland. The B&O Railroad passed through Piedmont, and >there were numerous skirmishes and battles between Union and Confederate >forces to gain control over the railroad. Piedmont, in 1864, was in >Hampshire County, WV and in 1866 or 1877 Mineral County was formed. Piedmont >fell into the new County, as it is still there. I should add that WV became >a State in June 1863 so, technically, Piedmont was in WV in 1864 when your >guy was killed. I have seen several such mistakes during the 1863-1864 time >(VA vs WV), just as we sometimes fail to record the correct year in our >checkbook after New Years Day. I am not a Civil War expert, but I know the >areas. > >I don't understand why he was buried in Staunton, VA. I was born and raised >in Rockingham County and never heard of a Piedmont in the County. From >Rockingham County, crossing over the Blue Ridge Mountains (east) is a >geo-cultural region called Piedmont that stretches into North Carolina. But >it is a geographic area and not a town. Rockingham County is in the heart of >the Shenandoah Valley. > >There is truth in all the information you have, but a mistake or omission >and a missing link. It can be solved. Keep on digging. That is my two-cents >worth. > >Wilmer L. Kerns > >-----Original Message----- >From: varockin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:varockin-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Kevin Frye >Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:14 PM >To: varockin@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [VAROCKIN] Name of cemetery on Cemetery Road in Mt Crawford > >Often when the bodies were buried, they were marked by wooden headboards. >This was the case in most National Cemeteries including here at >Andersonville. Stone grave markers were to replace the wooden markers for >years and the standard civil war grave marker you mostly see with the shield > >were not made until 1898. Its possible he was registered there and the >wooden marker was damaged beyond being read. We have a copy of the " >Official Roster of the Soldiers of the State of Ohio" in our archives at >Andersonville. I will be there tomorrow and will look him up and see what >is mentioned. Ill even copy the page he is recorded on and email it to you. > >Just a thought. > >Kevin > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Phyllis Garratt" <pgarratt@gessert.us> >To: <varockin@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:02 PM >Subject: Re: [VAROCKIN] Name of cemetery on Cemetery Road in Mt Crawford > > > > Thanks for your response, Kevin. That's my guy. > > > > I actually subscribed to that database just to see what I could find on > > him > > and found what you found. So the other day I called and they said he was > > not > > buried there. I asked about unmarked graves and they seemed to think that > > was unlikely. But as you point out, it could certainly be a possibility. > > There are several family stories about him and so far all have been proven > > true, so we are slightly inclined to think he was actually buried on Mt > > Crawford right where he fell, which I'm told happened a lot during the > > Civil > > War...although more so in the first years of the conflict when things were > > far less organized. > > > > If he is in an unmarked grave at Staunton, do you know how that would have > > happened? I mean, his regiment knew who he was. And someone knew enough to > > log him in as being buried in Staunton. Were things so chaotic that men > > were > > just buried without any name tied to them? > > > > > > > > Phyllis > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Frederick Brandt > > Residence was not listed; 28 years old. > > Enlisted on 6/13/1861 as a Private. > > On 7/6/1861 he mustered into "H" Co. OH 28th Infantry > > He was Killed on 6/5/1864 at Piedmont, VA > > Other Information: > > Buried: Staunton National Cemetery, Staunton, VA > > Sources used by Historical Data Systems, Inc.: > > - Official Roster of the Soldiers of the State of Ohio > > - Roll of Honor of Ohio Soldiers > > (c) Historical Data Systems, Inc. @ www.civilwardata.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1460 - Release Date: 5/22/2008 > > > 7:06 AM > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1461 - Release Date: 5/22/2008 >4:44 PM