I just got back into town and have not been able to search for my d ocu mentation...excuse my typing as my hand is in a cast... i am positive that i was told that there was a grave yard across the shenandoah river by island ford/yancey that many people were buried......some of my people.... and that the river kept rising and washing out the grave y ard..... now this was in the early 1900's cause my Theophilus died in 1907 and Columbia died in 1917.... her death certificate stated that she is buried at McGaheysville Cemetery which I assume to be Mt. Olivet but i have not been able to get my hands on Theo's death certificate... if there is one. The only verification that Ihave on his date of death is Columbias pension record I have been there at least 10 times and walked that grave yard from front to back and there is no stone..... It may have been Larry Shifflett who told me about t he other grave yard...... I just can't remember..... now..... i did find a grave for their son charles henry shifflett and there are at least to empty plots (no stones ) next to him which ma y be columbia and theophilus. i wish there was a plot listing? ive never heard of a grave yard without one.... i have called and talked t o the caretaker there, but he was no help. donna Mdvanpelt@aol.com wrote: > Michael and Donna, > > I just checked the 1885 Rockingham Co. Atlas and could not find any > cemeteries in or around Island Ford. I found a residence for a Dr. T. N. Sellers and > one for a Peter Sellers and one for E. Sellers. I also found residences > belonging to a John Shiflett (that's how it's spelled--one F and two T's) and a H. > W. Shiflett all close to Island Ford. > > My husband makes deliveries (fuel oil, gas and diesel to homes and farms) in > that area and he's never seen any remains of old churches or cemeteries. > > Michele > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jonescollectables2 Surnames: Jones, Black Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.rockingham/3272/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on Jones families in Rockingham County in the 1830's and 40's. In particular, Paschal and Ann (Black) Jones who were married 19 Jun 1828. Any information on other Jones' there at the time may be helpful in the search for my Jones. Thank You Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genfem Surnames: Berkebile, Berkeybile, Perkeypile, Perkey ect Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.rockingham/3271/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Some of you have been waiting for these book to come out as they were too expensive to print now you don't have to worry about that, since you can print what you need your self. Remember to source the book if you are using it's content in your family history. If you need end notes for a particular person you can contact me. Be patient I have Ms, ect and do not always get to my e-mail regularly. As you know about half of the information ( aprox 5000 pages) was lost in a computer crash. These 11 volumes represent what was recovered so far. (Custer and Seese books were likewise damaged) The 5th Edition of Berkebile Families in America (11 volumes) and the Von Lunen Book which also has Berkebile descendents are now on line at LDS.ORG. They told us this book would be available last year, but a year and a month later it is finally here. Go to LDS. Org and go to the library section, under library go to the catalog and under author type in von Lunen, this will bring up both books. (Sorry Custer and Seese are not available yet) It is a digitized version and can be read, and downloaded ect. at the site it is about 5000 pages long. Instead of end notes which in the first 5 volumes goes past12,000. A Bibliography was used there are about 5000 NON CENSUS sources. IMPORTANT an ERROR APPEARs ON PAGE 75 Disregard the HUMMELS on that line they were incorrectly listed due to a glitch and are siblings not children of John although they have Berkebile, Custer, Seese descendents. (IN THE 6th Edition this has been corrected.)Several people were missed in later volumes. If you have a continuation number but can't find the person in the volume contact me and I will send the missing information. The 6th edition is being worked on with corrections and missing lines being reconected. Make certain you read the first couple of pages which will tell you where the indexes are located, it does have a nice search engine. This (5th) edition does not include the photograph volume. The 6th edition of the Berkebile has an additional 500 pages (another volume)of information and will have the photos included in the body of the work. Unfortunately when they digitize the book they make all photos black and white and not very clear. UHH! Be nice. Unlike the rootsweb site these book have info on living people. If I hear you are abusing thier privacy I will have the books revoked.Sterile version of von Lunen can be found on both rootsweb and ancestory without the photos. The Berkebile book is too long to do a sterile version for rootsweb and ancestory. Right now I have no idea when the Custer and Seese books will be out. Those of you looking for the civil war book (Gathered to Rest; Civil War Veterans of Bedford Co., Pa.) that book is NOT available on line. You can get it from Closson Press. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Michael and Donna, I just checked the 1885 Rockingham Co. Atlas and could not find any cemeteries in or around Island Ford. I found a residence for a Dr. T. N. Sellers and one for a Peter Sellers and one for E. Sellers. I also found residences belonging to a John Shiflett (that's how it's spelled--one F and two T's) and a H. W. Shiflett all close to Island Ford. My husband makes deliveries (fuel oil, gas and diesel to homes and farms) in that area and he's never seen any remains of old churches or cemeteries. Michele **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

Hi Michele, Dr. T.N. (Theodore Napoleon) Sellers was a younger brother of my great great grandfather. Dr. T.N. was a grandson of the Henry Sellers, Sr. I mentioned in the earlier email. Dr. T.N. homesteaded on land that was formerly owned by Henry Sellers, Sr. Good possibility that what Dr. T.N. owned is also under the Coors plant now. "E. Sellers" was Emanuel Sellers, Sr., who's line ran parallel to my own. "Peter Sellers" was actually John Peter Sellers, son of Emanuel. John Shifflett's son, Robert Lee Shifflett, later married Mamie Belle Sellers, who was a granddaughter of the aforementioned John Peter Sellers. They were indeed all close to Island Ford, and that's certainly the right area. Shame the circa 1936 WPA report only made notations that 3 churches were there without actually naming them. I wonder if the churches went the way of any cemeteries close by, i.e., lost to history. Thanks for the info. Much appreciated! Michael Mdvanpelt@aol.com wrote: Michael and Donna, I just checked the 1885 Rockingham Co. Atlas and could not find any cemeteries in or around Island Ford. I found a residence for a Dr. T. N. Sellers and one for a Peter Sellers and one for E. Sellers. I also found residences belonging to a John Shiflett (that's how it's spelled--one F and two T's) and a H. W. Shiflett all close to Island Ford. My husband makes deliveries (fuel oil, gas and diesel to homes and farms) in that area and he's never seen any remains of old churches or cemeteries. Michele **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~varockin/HRHS/cem/mt_olivet01.htm Harrisonburg Rockingham Historical Society Rockingham County Tombstones by Cemetery Cemetery Mt. Olivet Cemetery - Page 1 Location McGaheysville, Rockingham County, Virginia. From Courthouse in Harrisonburg, Virginia, take Route 33 East. Go 7.9 miles and turn right onto Route 996 (McGaheysville Road). Go 2.7 miles and turn right onto Route 843 (Cemetery Road). Go about 2/10ths mile and cemetery is on the right side of road. Notes Cemetery is well maintained. On 8 April 1931 John W. Wayland made the following notation, "I judge that a number of these bodies were moved here from the old graveyard." There are many old graves in Section 2 and 3 that he has mentioned. The cemetery rows are recorded from the road to the back (east to west) and the headstones are recorded from left to right (south to north). Section 1 is the most southerly section. Section 2 is in the middle. Section 3 is the most northerly section. Section 4 is behind Section 1, 2, and 3. And Section 5, is behind Section 4. Survey Date and Recorder 29 Oct 2003 Connie Correa Cemetery Index Mt. Olivet Cemetery Pages 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Garland" <medlar@umbc.edu> To: <varockin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [VAROCKIN] Mt. Olivet Cemetery records? > Michael, > > I was told that my ggrandmother and ggrandfather (columbia and > Theophilus Shifflett )were moved to McGaheysville cemetery from the > grave yard across the river. Evidently, the river rose to often and > washed many of the graves out. I can't remember then name of the > graveyard but I think it was in Island Ford. I have never found their > graves and have searched everywhere trying to find out where they > actually are. There has to be a plot listing somewhere. > > Anyone? > > Donna > > ichael Sellers wrote: >> I'm wondering if there are burial records for Mt. Olivet Cemetery in >> McGaheysville. I've gone through the online records on the Rockingham >> County website, and I know the posted surveys are records for gravestones >> that are still in existence and can be seen. >> However, I'm trying to find out if there are actual burial records that >> would show someone being buried there though their gravestone may no >> longer be in existence or isn't/wasn't found. >> >> I've read the notations of John W. Wayland in 1931 when he wrote that, >> "I judge that a number of these bodies were moved here from the old >> graveyard". I'm assuming the old graveyard to which he referred was the >> Old Peaked Mountain Cemetery...? Does anyone know if those that were >> moved to Mt. Olivet from elsewhere were recorded? >> >> I'd appreciate any information about the existence, or non-existence, >> of burial records for Mt. Olivet and how best to go about searching for >> someone's burial there in the absence of a gravestone. Any assistance >> would be greatly appreciated! >> >> Thanks very much for your time, >> >> Michael Sellers >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Donna, if you find out, please let me know! Thanks! Wanz "Treat people as if they were what they ought to be and you help them to become what they are capable of being." -Goethe In a message dated 11/12/2008 1:51:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, medlar@umbc.edu writes: Michael, I was told that my ggrandmother and ggrandfather (columbia and Theophilus Shifflett )were moved to McGaheysville cemetery from the grave yard across the river. Evidently, the river rose to often and washed many of the graves out. I can't remember then name of the graveyard but I think it was in Island Ford. I have never found their graves and have searched everywhere trying to find out where they actually are. There has to be a plot listing somewhere. Anyone? Donna ichael Sellers wrote: > I'm wondering if there are burial records for Mt. Olivet Cemetery in McGaheysville. I've gone through the online records on the Rockingham County website, and I know the posted surveys are records for gravestones that are still in existence and can be seen. > However, I'm trying to find out if there are actual burial records that would show someone being buried there though their gravestone may no longer be in existence or isn't/wasn't found. > > I've read the notations of John W. Wayland in 1931 when he wrote that, "I judge that a number of these bodies were moved here from the old graveyard". I'm assuming the old graveyard to which he referred was the Old Peaked Mountain Cemetery...? Does anyone know if those that were moved to Mt. Olivet from elsewhere were recorded? > > I'd appreciate any information about the existence, or non-existence, of burial records for Mt. Olivet and how best to go about searching for someone's burial there in the absence of a gravestone. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks very much for your time, > > Michael Sellers > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

Michael, I was told that my ggrandmother and ggrandfather (columbia and Theophilus Shifflett )were moved to McGaheysville cemetery from the grave yard across the river. Evidently, the river rose to often and washed many of the graves out. I can't remember then name of the graveyard but I think it was in Island Ford. I have never found their graves and have searched everywhere trying to find out where they actually are. There has to be a plot listing somewhere. Anyone? Donna ichael Sellers wrote: > I'm wondering if there are burial records for Mt. Olivet Cemetery in McGaheysville. I've gone through the online records on the Rockingham County website, and I know the posted surveys are records for gravestones that are still in existence and can be seen. > However, I'm trying to find out if there are actual burial records that would show someone being buried there though their gravestone may no longer be in existence or isn't/wasn't found. > > I've read the notations of John W. Wayland in 1931 when he wrote that, "I judge that a number of these bodies were moved here from the old graveyard". I'm assuming the old graveyard to which he referred was the Old Peaked Mountain Cemetery...? Does anyone know if those that were moved to Mt. Olivet from elsewhere were recorded? > > I'd appreciate any information about the existence, or non-existence, of burial records for Mt. Olivet and how best to go about searching for someone's burial there in the absence of a gravestone. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks very much for your time, > > Michael Sellers > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Speaking of the possibility of an old "grave yard across the river" near Island Ford, I looked at a map from circa 1936 that was part of a WPA report showing the area around Island Ford. On the map, three (3) churches were drawn and noted, and they appear to be along the highway near or in the community of Rocky Bar south of Island Ford. All three were located on the East side of the railroad tracks. Two were between the railroad racks and what is now Rt. 340 while the third one was directly across the road from the other two. Unfortunately, the churches were not part of the report and were not named on the map. Anyone with an idea of what three churches they could've been, their names, and if they still exist? And, I wonder if any of the three had a cemetery? Michael Sellers Donna Garland <medlar@umbc.edu> wrote: Michael, I was told that my ggrandmother and ggrandfather (columbia and Theophilus Shifflett )were moved to McGaheysville cemetery from the grave yard across the river. Evidently, the river rose to often and washed many of the graves out. I can't remember then name of the graveyard but I think it was in Island Ford. I have never found their graves and have searched everywhere trying to find out where they actually are. There has to be a plot listing somewhere. Anyone? Donna ichael Sellers wrote: > I'm wondering if there are burial records for Mt. Olivet Cemetery in McGaheysville. I've gone through the online records on the Rockingham County website, and I know the posted surveys are records for gravestones that are still in existence and can be seen. > However, I'm trying to find out if there are actual burial records that would show someone being buried there though their gravestone may no longer be in existence or isn't/wasn't found. > > I've read the notations of John W. Wayland in 1931 when he wrote that, "I judge that a number of these bodies were moved here from the old graveyard". I'm assuming the old graveyard to which he referred was the Old Peaked Mountain Cemetery...? Does anyone know if those that were moved to Mt. Olivet from elsewhere were recorded? > > I'd appreciate any information about the existence, or non-existence, of burial records for Mt. Olivet and how best to go about searching for someone's burial there in the absence of a gravestone. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks very much for your time, > > Michael Sellers > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very interesting indeed. I'm not aware of and haven't heard of a cemetery across the Shenandoah River near Island Ford, but it really piques my interest! My 4 Great Grandfather, Henry Sellers, Sr., owned upwards of 2,200 acres at one point in what I believe was the vicinity of Island Ford. The majority of what was once his land, or at least a good portion, is now part of where the Coors plant is located near Island Ford. I have never found his gravesite and have been clueless as to where it could be. Henry's will was written and signed August 30, 1841, and in it he divided all "[his] lands on the South side of the main Road leading from Port Republic to Swift Run Gap". I've always thought that the 'main Road' he referred to was present-day Rt. 340, and that his property was indeed on the South side of the road where the Coors plant is now. That being the case, and without knowing where he was buried, I now wonder if it's possible that he, too, was buried in the "grave yard across the river" near Island Ford. Would love to find out the name of it, if any records have survived, and if there are any graves there now. Henry Sellers, Sr., died in June 1843 at the age of about 79, and his son, Henry, Jr., died in Dec. 1857 at the age of 51. Neither of their graves have been found nor has one for Henry, Sr.'s wife, Mary Magdalene (Hedrick) Sellers. Of their remaining 5 children, four of Henry's daughters are all buried in Mt. Olivet. I was hoping to find or learn of burial records for Mt. Olivet to see if Henry, Sr., wife, Mary Hedrick, and son Henry, Jr. were ever interred there or perhaps moved there. Given that four daughters are buried there along with a host of cousins, it would seem to make sense to look for them there. However, upon reading your message about a graveyard on the east side of the Shenandoah River near Island Ford, it has really interested me as a possibility that perhaps they were buried there! Hopefully someone will have some info either about Mt. Olivet's burial records or perhaps information about the old "grave yard across the river" near Island Ford. Michael Donna Garland <medlar@umbc.edu> wrote: Michael, I was told that my ggrandmother and ggrandfather (columbia and Theophilus Shifflett )were moved to McGaheysville cemetery from the grave yard across the river. Evidently, the river rose to often and washed many of the graves out. I can't remember then name of the graveyard but I think it was in Island Ford. I have never found their graves and have searched everywhere trying to find out where they actually are. There has to be a plot listing somewhere. Anyone? Donna ichael Sellers wrote: > I'm wondering if there are burial records for Mt. Olivet Cemetery in McGaheysville. I've gone through the online records on the Rockingham County website, and I know the posted surveys are records for gravestones that are still in existence and can be seen. > However, I'm trying to find out if there are actual burial records that would show someone being buried there though their gravestone may no longer be in existence or isn't/wasn't found. > > I've read the notations of John W. Wayland in 1931 when he wrote that, "I judge that a number of these bodies were moved here from the old graveyard". I'm assuming the old graveyard to which he referred was the Old Peaked Mountain Cemetery...? Does anyone know if those that were moved to Mt. Olivet from elsewhere were recorded? > > I'd appreciate any information about the existence, or non-existence, of burial records for Mt. Olivet and how best to go about searching for someone's burial there in the absence of a gravestone. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks very much for your time, > > Michael Sellers > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm wondering if there are burial records for Mt. Olivet Cemetery in McGaheysville. I've gone through the online records on the Rockingham County website, and I know the posted surveys are records for gravestones that are still in existence and can be seen. However, I'm trying to find out if there are actual burial records that would show someone being buried there though their gravestone may no longer be in existence or isn't/wasn't found. I've read the notations of John W. Wayland in 1931 when he wrote that, "I judge that a number of these bodies were moved here from the old graveyard". I'm assuming the old graveyard to which he referred was the Old Peaked Mountain Cemetery...? Does anyone know if those that were moved to Mt. Olivet from elsewhere were recorded? I'd appreciate any information about the existence, or non-existence, of burial records for Mt. Olivet and how best to go about searching for someone's burial there in the absence of a gravestone. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks very much for your time, Michael Sellers

I found out I'm a Kyger descendant through Russell's Christian Geiger website. Here is an interesting link about him. _http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2006/02/russ-kyger-rip-from-washington-post.html_ (http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2006/02/russ-kyger-rip-from-washington-post.html) You might try Kyger's Funeral Home in Elkton, VA as a reference point. Marta 'If man cares not for his roots, then how can he care for his branches?' --Doyle M Davis **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ellenstanton1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.rockingham/1479.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for Russell and Mary's daughter, Michelle. She and my daughter were friends at McGahesyville Elem and competed in baton competitions together. We moved to GA in Nov. 2004. I was in touch with Mary after Russell's death. However, we are no longer able to find Mary or Michelle. I know that Mary remarried and that Michelle has been with relatives at times during the last 3 years. We would love to get in touch with Michelle again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

 Hello, Am looking for a marriage record probably from the 1840s or other information about James M. Andrews and wife Elizabeth Lamb.  I find them in the 1850 and 1860 census in Page, and I do know that she was the daughter of Lucy and Zachariah Lamb of Rockingham County.  Both would have been born in the 1820s. Thank you for any help. ~Sally Andrews Gudas

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RuthMeister62 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.rockingham/1457.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I AM LOOKING FOR HELP PARENTS OF WILLIAM J BRISBIN B 6/1852 OH PARENTS B KY SP MARY B 5/1861 HOPE YOU CAN HELP THANKS Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I'm wondering if some kind soul can help me provide some answers as to what happened to a William SWARTZ and wife Maria SELLERS in Rockingham County, Virginia.    In a nutshell, William Swartz and Maria Sellers married August 19, 1858, in Rockingham County, and together had a daughter, Mary C. Swartz, on March 3, 1859.  I find them all together on the 1860 Census living in "District No. 1".  I believe they may have been in the Mt. Clinton area. Per some sketchy documentation from the Will and estate settlement of Maria's grandfather, John Sellers, circa 1867, it is believed that Maria (Sellers) Swartz had died by that time (1867).  Unfortunately, I believe that John Sellers' Will was contested to a certain degree, may have taken until 1873 to settle, and is subsequently not on file at the Rockingham County courthouse.  Thus, it has been nearly impossible to corroborate not only this information but also that Maria's mother, Mary, had died by this time as well.   In any case, I find only William Swartz and daughter Mary C. Swartz living in the household of William's widowed mother, Elizabeth (Wilson) Swartz and his older sister, also named Maria, on the subsequent 1870 Census for Rockingham County.  It would appear that wife Maria Sellers is indeed deceased, but I have not been able to locate her burial location.   The 1880 Census shows the daughter, Mary C. Swartz, living in the household with her grandmother, Elizabeth (Wilson) Swartz, and aunt Maria Swartz.  Her father, William Swartz, is nowhere to be found and her mother still does not appear.  Six years later Mary C. Swartz married Charles E. Ritchie in Rockingham County.   William Swartz's parents, William Swartz, Sr., (1801 - April 1864) and mother, Elizabeth Wilson (July 31, 1796 - July 9, 1880), along with his older sister, Maria Swartz (Dec. 29, 1827 - Mar. 13, 1917), are buried in Cooks Creek Presbyterian Church Cemetery east of Mt. Clinton. William's and Maria's daughter, Mary C. (Swartz) Ritchie, is buried with husband Charles E. Ritchie in Woodbine Cemetery.   Unfortunately, I can find no record of Maria (Sellers) Swartz beyond the 1860 Census and the possible mention of her being deceased in the 1867 Will of her grandfather, John Sellers. Likewise, I can find no record of William Swartz beyond his appearance in the 1870 Census household of his mother, Elizabeth.   If anyone has any knowledge of what happened to them or an idea of a source for where I could turn to look, I'd greatly appreciate it.   Thanks very much,   Michael Sellers    

Need help/advice in locating and identifying the families of these 1777 newlyweds. 25 Oct 1777 m of John JACKMAN & Hanna GEORGE 25 Dec 1777 m of Martha GEORGE & George SEE. These mar were performed by the famous Rev Alderson who at one time served present day Greenbrier Co, WV. Location probably in present day SE WV or adjoining counties of present day VA. As Greenbrier Co was formed in 1777 from parts of Montgomery Co, VA which was formed the yr bef from parts of Bot, Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 1-760-941-4716 <HalMac@Cox.Net>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Thomflory Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.rockingham/3270.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I presume that the land deeds are official government documents from the county courthouse. What records are you using to "indicate births"? To the best of my knowledge, there are no government birth records in Virginia at that time. But I will also say that I had 3GGPs who did move from Rockingham to Rockbridge in the 1830s [based on County and Church Marriage Records, Church Baptismal Records, Census Records, Burial Records, etc]. Thom Flory Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Subject: Carrot, Egg and Coffee Carrots, Eggs, & Coffee!? > > A carrot, an egg, and a cup of coffee...You will never look at a cup of coffee the same way again. > > A young woman went to her mother and told her about her life and how things were so hard for her. She did not know how she was going to make it and wanted to give up, She was tired of fighting and struggling. It seemed as one problem was solved, a new one arose. > > Her mother took her to the kitchen. She filled three pots with water and placed each on a high fire. Soon the pots came to boil. In the first she placed carrots, in the second she placed eggs, and in the last she placed ground coffee beans. She let them sit and boil; without saying a word. > > In about twenty minutes she turned off the burners. She fished the carrots out and placed them in a bowl. She pulled the eggs out and placed them in abowl. Then she ladled the coffee out and placed it in a bowl. Turning to her daughter, she asked, ' Tell me what you see.' > > 'Carrots, eggs, and coffee,' she replied. > > Her mother brought her closer and asked her to feel the carrots. She did and noted that they were soft. The mother then asked the daughter to take an egg and break it. After pulling off the shell, she observed the hard boiled egg. > > Finally, the mother asked the daughter to sip the coffee. The daughter smiled as she tasted its rich aroma. The daughter then asked,'What does it mean, mother?'? > > Her mother explained that each of these objects had faced the same adversity: boiling water. Each reacted differently. The carrot went in strong, hard, and unrelenting. However, after being subjected to the boiling water, it softened and became weak. The egg had been fragile. Its thin outer shell had protected its liquid interior, but after sitting through the boiling water, its inside became hardene d. The ground coffee beans were unique, however. After they were in the boiling water, they had changed the water. > > 'Which are you?' she asked her daughter. 'When adversity knocks on your door, how do you respond? Are you a carrot, an egg or a coffee bean?? > > Think of this: Which am I? Am I the carrot that seems strong, but with pain and adversity do I wilt and become soft and lose my strength?? > > Am I the egg that starts with a malleable heart, but changes with the heat? Did I have a fluid spirit, but after a death, a breakup, a financial hardship or some other trial, have I become hardened and stiff? Does my shell look the same, but on the inside am I bitter and tough with a stiff spirit and hardened heart?? > > Or am I like the coffee bean? The bean actually changes the hot water, the very circumstance that brings the pain. When the water gets hot, it releases the fragrance and flavor. If you are like the bean, when thin gs are at their worst, you get better and change the situation around you. When the hour is the darkest and trials are their greatest do you elevate yourself to another level. How do you handle adversity? Are you a carrot, an egg or a coffee bean?? > > May you have enough happiness to make you sweet, enough trials to make you strong, enough sorrow to keep you human and enough hope to make you happy. > > The happiest of people don't necessarily have the best of everything; they just make the most of everything that comes along their way. The brightest future will always be based on a forgotten past; you can't go forward in life until you let go of your past failures and heartaches. > > When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. > > Live your life so at the end, you're the one who is smiling and everyone around you is crying. > > You might want to send this message to those people who mean something to you(I JUST DID); to those who have touched your life in one way or another; to those who make you smile when you really need it; to those who make you see the brighter side of things when you are really down; to those whose friendship you appreciate; to those who are so meaningful in your life. > > If you don't send it, that's okay too. > May we all be COFFEE!!!!!!! **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

I figured out what I did wrong. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Teels" <dmzlfly@lakegranbury.com> To: <varockin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [VAROCKIN] Lams, Atkinson, Akinson, Crawford >I have tried emailing you at the address you provided and it came back to > me. Do you have another? > Thanks, > Phyllis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Lsc12147@aol.com> > To: <varockin@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROCKIN] Lams, Atkinson, Akinson, Crawford > > >>I believe your Michelberry originated in Rockbridge, but later worked as a >> blacksmith in Rockingham. If you are looking for info on Michelberry's >> parents, your best bet may be in Rockbridge. Email me at >> _Lsc12147@aol.com_ >> (mailto:Lsc12147@aol.com) , >> >> >> In a message dated 10/17/2008 12:15:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> dmzlfly@lakegranbury.com writes: >> >> I'm looking for records for the names of Lam, Atkinson, Akinson, >> Crawford >> in >> Rockingham. >> William & Elizabeth Crawford Lam-my great great grandparents, >> Michelberry Henderson(Henry)Lam & Frances Ann Atkinson-great >> grandparents. >> Mary Susan Lam& William James Martin-grandparents. >> >> I have a couple of land papers for M. H. Lam, but nothing on his >> parents. >> They are listed on his marriage license. >> >> Looking for any other info. There were a lot of Lam's but have not been >> able to connect to anyone else. >> >> Thanks, >> Phyllis >> Texas >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> >> **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your >> destination. >> Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out >> (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAROCKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >