Maggie Don't have any proof but do not believe that it is to large a leap to suggest that Margaret Catherine husband is her 1st cousin. Her father brother Nicholas has a son name Abraham. My records do not reflect any of the information you provided for Abraham but it sure looks like it will fit......The information that I have on Nicholas PIRKEY family was include on my 1st email on this subject yesterday. Does your Miller line run to the Rockingham Adam Miller of note .... if so we are may be related thru that line.... Claud Miller Sanford Bowie Md.

My gggg grandfather was John Rose born ca. 1765. His wife was Dorothy ????? John was living in Brocks Gap between 1799 and 1810. He then moved to Fairfield County Ohio and by 1828 was in Pickaway County Ohio. He died in early spring of 1831. Was wondering if there would possibly be an obituary in a newspaper for the Rockingham area for John in that time period and if any one knows where would be a good place to look for such a thing. While in Brocks Gap, he was "Security" to the marriage of George Siever who married Uley Serick (Surge) of Mathias Surge (Surge name is same as later Sirk or Zirk) the consent witness was George May. Any help to finding who Dorothy was would be great!! thanks donna

I'm interested in the following Rockingham Co. names and connections, primarily in the period between about 1770 and 1800. Many of them came originally from Berks Co., PA: ALSTOTT (seen variously as ALTSTADT, etc.), any and all of them! WILLIAMS, Robert, Reece, John, Owen DEPOY Christopher HOWER Elander WILLIAMS m. William EGGER Reese ALSTOTT m. Elizabeth EVILSIZER Catherine ALSTOTT m. Joseph SCOTHERN Know anything about these people? Judy

I am new to this list, since I have only recently found my ancestral family of Peter and Catharine Sheets in the 1850 census in Rockingham County. At that time, they were living in District 56 in house #1112. Can anyone help me find the location of this District in the County ? My purpose would be to then find the nearest Lutheran Church for further searching. Thanks for your responses. Roy

I can add a bit more to your information about this family. The marriage date for George and Elizabeth is noted. My information came from family records and "Armentrout Family History" by Russell S. Armentrout published in 1980 by Harrisonburg-Rockingham Historical Society. The book is out of print. Margaret Catherine Pirkey (below) married her cousin, Abraham Pirkey. Do you know specifically how they were related? Descendants of George Pirkey 1 George Pirkey b: January 22, 1792 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: April 12, 1852 in Rockingham County, Virginia .. +Anna Elizabeth Kyger b: December 01, 1794 in Rockingham County, Virginia m: June 21, 1818 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: Abt. August 14, 1841 in Rockingham County, Virginia .... 2 Anna Maria "Mary" Pirkey b: October 20, 1819 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: March 26, 1879 in McGaheysville, Rockingham County, Virginia ........ +Jacob Weast b: June 29, 1809 in Pennsylvania m: December 01, 1837 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: January 10, 1884 in Rockingham County, Virginia .... 2 George Pirkey b: May 21, 1821 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: March 22, 1878 in Rockingham County, Virginia .... 2 Barbara Ann Pirkey b: August 01, 1822 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: March 09, 1878 in Rockingham County, Virginia ........ +Michael Joseph Meyerhoeffer, Jr. b: December 27, 1822 in Rockingham County, Virginia m: October 19, 1842 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: March 27, 1901 in Rockingham County, Virginia .... 2 Lucy Pirkey b: Abt. 1824 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: Abt. 1824 in Rockingham County, Virginia .... 2 Elias Pirkey b: October 03, 1827 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: April 29, 1907 in Grottoes area, Rockingham County, Virginia ........ +Susan Baker b: September 04, 1835 in Rockingham County, Virginia m: December 20, 1855 d: February 12, 1873 in Augusta County, Virginia .... 2 Margaret Catherine Pirkey b: June 21, 1832 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: January 27, 1902 in Rockingham County, Virginia ........ +Abraham Pirkey b: September 24, 1825 m: February 12, 1863 in Rockingham County, Virginia d: May 21, 1895 Maggie Kyger Miller loganholmes@aol.com

Joseph I'm related to the Conrad/Pirkey families. I think I have part of the line you are discussing. My records reflect the marriage between Henry Pickey and Anna Margaret CONRAD discussed but do not show a dau named Katherine PIRKEY. If this the correct family ... can you fill in some missing parts. Would like to share Conrad/Pirkey information...sorry but I have no HARNER's in my records to share with you... Enclosed below is an extract of my records... Descendants of Henry PIRKEY - 3 Feb 2000 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - FIRST GENERATION 1. Henry PRICEY was born between 1745 and 1750.2 He owned 515 acres in 1789 in 12th Militia District, Va.3 He died on 13 Apr 1827 in Va.4 He was married to Anna Margaret CONRAD (daughter of Johann Stephen CONRAD Sr. and Anna Catarina STAHLSCHMIDT) in Rockingham Co., Va. 4.5 Her husband brother Jacob Pirkey married her sister Anna Elizabeth. Anna Margaret CONRAD1 was born on 2 Feb 1751 in Pa.4,6 She was living on 21 Apr 1821 in Rockingham Co., Va. 7 She died in 1829. She died on 27 Sep 1829 in Va.4 Henry PIRKEY and Anna Margaret CONRAD had the following children: 2 i. Henry (Little Henry) PIRKEY1 died in 1838. +3 ii. Nicholas PIRKEY. +4 iii. George PIRKEY. 5 iv. Phillip PRICEY. 6 v. Christena PIRKEY1. 7 vi. Annis PIRKEY1. SECOND GENERATION 3. Nicholas PIRKEY1. Nicholas PIRKEY had the following children: +8 i. Levi PIRKEY. 9 ii. Reuben PIRKEY1. 10 iii. Abraham PIRKEY1. 11 iv. Isaac PIRKEY1. 12 v. Henry PIRKEY1 was born in 1837. He died in 1871. He served in the military. During the Civil War. Enlisted on 18 April 1861 as the 4th Sgt. Co E. 10th Va. Inf at McGaheysville Va. Records reflects him as a 3rd Sgt on 7 Aug 1862. Enlisted as a Cpl detached service on 9 Jul 1864. 13 vi. Allen PIRKEY1. 14 vii. Alexander PIRKEY1 served in the military.8 during the Civil War. Enlisted as a Pvt. on 18 April 1861 at McGaheysville Va in Co E of the 10th Va. Inf. He is not reflected in the CW records after Dec 1862. 15 viii. Mary PIRKEY1. 4. George PIRKEY1 was born on 22 Jan 1792 in Rockingham Co, Va. He died on 12 Apr 1852 in Rockingham Co, Va. He was married to Anna Elizabeth KYGER about 1818. Anna Elizabeth KYGER1 was born on 1 Dec 1794 in Rockingham Co, Va. She died in 1841. George PIRKEY and Anna Elizabeth KYGER had the following children: +16 i. Anna (Mary) Maria PIRKEY. 17 ii. George PIRKEY1 was born in 1821. He died in 1878. +18 iii. Barbara Ann PIRKEY. 19 iv. Lucy PIRKEY1 was born in 1824. +20 v. Elias PIRKEY. 21 vi. Margaret Catherine PIRKEY1 was born in 1832. She died in 1902. SOURCES 1. Amy E. Garger. GEDCOM file imported on 22 Aug 1998. 2. Email From Amy Garger AEGARBER@CIVNET.COM. 3. Floyd Wilmer Coffman. The Conrad Clan Family of John Stephen Conrad, Sr. and Allied Lines. Joseph K Ruebush Co., Harrisonburg, Va., 1939 Printer was Mc Clure Co., Inc . Staunton Va. pg 332. 4. Informal hand written Genealogy research probably done to support DAR certification. Notes were generated in the late 1950's or early 60's. DAR IDnumber 78953 in Volume 79. 5. Floyd Wilmer Coffman. The Conrad Clan Family of John Stephen Conrad, Sr. and Allied Lines. Joseph K Ruebush Co., Harrisonburg, Va., 1939 Printer was Mc Clure Co., Inc . Staunton Va. Pg 73. 6. Ibid. pg 73. 7. Ibid. Pg. 74. 8. Terrence V. Murphy. 10th Virginia Infantry, The Virginia Regimental Histories Series, H. E. Howard Inc. Lynchburg Va, 1989. Pg.. 167.

On 19 March 1817, a marriage bond was issued in Rockingham County, VA for the marriage of Henry KYLE and Betsy PIRKEY. Betsy (most likely Elizabeth was her given name) was the daughter of Henry PIRKEY and Margaret CONRAD. On 21 September 1846, an Executor bond was issued in Rockingham County, with Henry Kyle named as the executor of the estate of Elizabeth Kyle. It is possible the deceased was Elizabeth "Betsy" PIRKEY, and the executor was her husband. I am looking for information on Henry and Betsy KYLE and their descendants. I have considerable information on the PIRKEYs and CONRADs that I am willing to share. Jim Messersmith Rockville, VA

On 26 March 1798, a marriage bond was issued in Rockingham County, VA for the marriage of Jacob HARNER and Katherine PIRKEY. Katherine was the daughter of Henry PIRKEY and Margaret CONRAD. On the 1850 census in Augusta County, there was a Jacob HARNER, age 77, living in the household of Henry A. HARNER, age 52. Jacob indicated he was born in Maryland. Most likely Henry was the son of Jacob, and Henry was of the age that this could be the same Jacob who married Katherine PIRKEY. I am looking for information on Jacob and Katherine HARNER and their descendants. I have considerable information on the PIRKEYs and CONRADs that I am willing to share. Jim Messersmith Rockville, VA

Hi, I'm new to this list, so here goes I have Ida Armentha Brannon(1867-1931) Her parents:Christopher Brannon(1842-1923) m. Aurilla Hopkins(1850-1878) Her Grand Parents:Paul Brannon(1816-??) m. Mary Monger((1818-??) Notes : They started out in Rockingham VA. Christopher at some time before he married moved to Illinois where he married Aurilla Hopkins. He is buried in Terre Haute, Indiana. He had at least one daughter named above. Ida married John W. Barnes((1865-1950) I have more descendants if wanted. Any help would be great, and thanks to Martha Monger for connecting some of this for me. Thanks,Tim B. Searching: Barnes, Boettger, Brannon, Brown, Coat(e)s, Daughtery, Grimm, Houseworth,LaLonde, McAllister, Patton, Pick, Proctor, Rea, Scribner, Spink, Sterk, Wiese, Wilson

Hello, REVERCOMB is not in my line (that I know of), but I just found out that the husband of one of my best friends is originally from Harrisonburg. The surname is REVERCOMB. Does anybody know anything about the history of this line? Any connection to YANCEY, GIBBONS, KEMPER, etc.? Her husband is Gary REVERCOMB; he is a dentist here in Syracuse, NY. -- Mary Taffet mdtaffet@syr.edu

Phylliss Davis wrote: > Looking for help with my BROWNE ancestors: > 1. John BROWNE, b. <1760> in England with his brother , > Thomas "Tom" BROWNE, both came from England before the Revolutionary > War > 2. James BROWNE b . <1788> VA, married > Mary SMITH, b. <1790> VA > 3. James BROWNE, b. 18 Jul 1807, Rockingham Co, VA, d. 13 Nov 1863, > married > Elizabeth "Polly" ZIMMERMAN. Sep 1825 > 4. Catherine Elizabeth BROWNE, b. 25 Mar 1826, Edom, Rockingham > Co, VA, d. 31 Aug 1908, > Stafford, Stafford Co, KS, married 29 Aug 1848, > Harrisonburg, Rockingham Co, VA to > William S. SMITH > > Catherine Elizabeth BROWNE was the oldest child, her's siblings were: > 1.George W. BROWNE, he had a son, Lorenzo BROWNE, who lived in > Shenandoah Junction, VA > 2.John BROWNE, married a GEDDINGS, had a son George Adam BROWNE > 3.Joseph BROWNE, never married > 4. Sarah "Sally" BROWNE, b.15 Oct 1834, married Jacob "Jake" MILLER > 5.Mary BROWNE, b. 31 Oct 1836 > 6.Thomas BROWNE, b.23 Nov 1838, d. 2 Oct 1894, Warren Co, IL, married > Elizabeth "Lizzie" RAY, two > children: George W. BROWNE & Leonard BROWNE (d. lived 1 yr, 5 mo, 1 > day) > 7.Frances BROWNE, b. 27 Oct 1840 , d. Sedgwick Co, KS, marr. William > KELLER > 8.Barbara Ellen BROWNE, b.14 Apr 1843, d 26 Jan 1919 <Warren Co, IL>, > marr > Dom Pedro UNDERWOOD > 9.Emily Jane BROWNE, b. 13 apr 1845, marr. William WARD > > I hope someone will recognize one or more of these ancestors. > > Phylliss Smith Davis - Glendale, AZ > phylliss@amug.org (Note: two l's, 2 s's in phylliss) > > ==== BROWN Mailing List ==== > This BROWN list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptrequest.html > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

----- Original Message ----- From: toppline <toppline@cet.com> To: <HCPD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 2:52 PM Subject: [HCPD] Concerning dating from death dates > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <AIMZQ38@aol.com> > > To: <VAROCKIN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 12:52 PM > > Subject: [VAROCKIN] (no subject) > > > I once advocated using the 8870 method and after so many found it did not > work, and I tried to find a better solution, I came across Bill Buckner's > formula. And I would ask that you all go check it out. I even put a > disclaimer on my home page about the 8870 as it was being forwarded around > the internet and I had many coming back and saying they couldn't make it > work properly or coincide with what they knew to be true. > Please do check it out - I think Bill has the best formula I have found. > > http://enws347.eas.asu.edu/~buckner/bdexpl.html > > I think you will find that it is better and also you can go to his page and > find out his reasoning. I have that link on my homepage. > > Bette Butcher Topp > http://www.cet.com/~toppline > > > > > > REMEMBER 8870 > > > That's not an error: It's the number to remember > > > when you want to find the birthdate of someone > > > when you only have the date of death and age. > > > How do you figure the birthdate? Suppose the > > > person died May 6, 1889, > >

"In the event you don't have a computer close at hand to do the calculating: REMEMBER 8870 That's not an error: It's the number to remember when you want to find the birthdate of someone when you only have the date of death and age. How do you figure the birthdate? Suppose the person died May 6, 1889, at the age of 71 years, 7 months, 9 days. ****Write the year, month, day as:->18890506 ****Subtract the age at death:------->710709 ****This gives the figure:--------->18179797 ****Now subtract 8870:----------------->8870 ****The result is:----------------->18170927 Year 1817, 9th month (Sept), 27th day or 27 Sept, 1817 >From Platte Co, MO Historical/Genealogical Society"

Many thanks to Jan of WVGREENBrier list for her tremendous response. OliverKid@aol.com Here are the OLIVER marriages. They are all Washington Co., OH Alexander and Patsy GRAHAM - November 22, 1806 Christian and Wm. BURNHAM - August 27, 1789 Drusilla and Hiram SNODGRASS - April 21, 1819 Elanor and Thomas LORD - April 28, 1795 Isabella and James BROWN - October 28, 1800 John and Catharine MATHEWS - April 9, 1801 Lancelot and Elizabeth AKINS - October 9, 1817 Liza and William OLIVER - March 19, 1795 Lucinda and George PUTNAM - March 31, 1799 Lucretia and Levi MUNSELL - December 17, 1789 Mahala and Calvin SHEPARD - January 1, 1805 Nell and David TICE - September 3, 1818 Peggy and Robert POTTS - July 3, 1790 I found the following marriage in Botetourt Co., Va: John OLIVER and Elizabeth HILL - d/o William Hill - March 26, 1821 I found these marriages in a book I have of Marriage Records of Squires Isaac and Joseph F. Mayes. Thought I would send some more food for thought. OLIVER, David E. and Harriet ABBOTT of Wheeling, Ohio Co., WV November 7, 1875 OLIVER, Julia and Robert J. GRAY both of Wheeling, Ohio Co., WV December 25, 1873 OLIVER, Kate and Harrison R. PAXTON, both of Wheeling, Ohio Co., WV December 25, 1873 OLIVER, Lena and George NERVIOUS, both of Wheeling, Ohio Co., WV August 18, 1871 OLIVER, Loui (possibly Louise) R. of Perropolis, Noble Co., OH and Fred KESSLER of Galliopolis, Gallia Co., OH - August 4, 1883 OLIVER, William of Bellaire, Belmont Co., OH and Mary A. NORRIS of Benwood, Marshall Co., WV - March 5, 1868 OLIVER, William H. and Mary Elizabeth HENRY, both of Guernsey Co., OH July 23, 1862 Let me know if I can help any further.

--part1_d0.16f575a.25c5d7f1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_d0.16f575a.25c5d7f1_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <antruth@swbell.net> Received: from rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (rly-yh05.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.37]) by air-yh03.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:54:46 -0500 Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:54:33 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([207.193.187.4]) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.09.16.21.57.p8) with ESMTP id <0FP400HEIQQ0HK@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net> for OLIVERKID@aol.com; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:51:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:49:14 -0600 From: antruth@swbell.net Subject: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] DWYER, BLIZARD, BUMGARDNER, STEPHENSON, OLIVER, ETC To: OLIVERKID@aol.com Reply-to: antruth@swbell.net Message-id: <3893B4BA.B53E088@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-SBIS-NC404 (Win98; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <c4.e3bee6.25c4a65f@aol.com> Hi, I was wondering if your Bumgardner's went to Harrison Co., MO? I ask because my Viola McDaniel m. a James A. Bumgardner in Harrison Co., MO abt. 1878 or so. She died in 1888 and I don't have any other info. on them yet, there is several Bumgardner's in Harrison Co., MO. I mention this because my McDaniel, Slaughter, Hawk & Joyce lines all came from Jackson Co., OH from 1840's to 1870's. Good luck. Ruth OLIVERKID@aol.com wrote: > Rockingham, VA genweb site has HUGE compilation of old court records. Many > familiar names. DWYER, OLIVER, BLIZARD, BUMGARDNER, STEPHENSON, BUSH, CURRY, > THOMAS, HANNA. Begin with first families, 1784. > 1791 John OLIVER > 1791 David STEPHENSON > > no reply necessary. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~chalkley/">Chronicles > of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia</A> --part1_d0.16f575a.25c5d7f1_boundary--

Rockingham, VA genweb site has HUGE compilation of old court records. Many familiar names. DWYER, OLIVER, BLIZARD, BUMGARDNER, STEPHENSON, BUSH, CURRY, THOMAS, HANNA. Begin with first families, 1784. 1791 John OLIVER 1791 David STEPHENSON no reply necessary. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~chalkley/">Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia</A>

Marg, In "The Bear Family Newsletter" dated May, 1999. It says there are 46 ways of spelling Baer, but the name is pronounced by all of them about the same way. Baer, Baar, Baare, Baear, Baehr, Baehre, Baehoar, Bahar, Bahor, Baere, Baiar, Baier, Bair, Baire, Bairr, Bare, Barr, Bayer, Bayeur, Bayor, Bayre, Beaher, Behar, Beher, Behr, Beier, Beir, Beirr, Bere, Beyar, Beyer, Biar, Biare, Bier, Bohaer, Byar, Byer, Byher, Byor. Now, in my line of Bear's I have only come across the name being spelled three different ways, Bär, Baer, and now Bear. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: <MargBond@aol.com> To: <VAROCKIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [VAROCKIN] re: desc of Jacob Bar > Has anyone else found that the name Bar (Barr) is also a spelling for Baer, > Bare. What other spellings have been found? I have a Sophia Barr who > married in Noble Co., IN in 1860. I believe her family originally came from > fairfield Co., OH & before that Rockingham Co. > > Marg > >

Dear Johnston-Thomas rooters Would any have the time to view this family and forward any comments? We are hunting for any data on the family lineage. Descendants of Mary Elizabeth Thomas Generation No. 1 1. MARY ELIZABETH2 THOMAS (BENJAMIN1) was born September 25, 1802 in Kentucky, and died April 1882 in Neosho Co., Ks. She married ABSOLOM HILL JOHNSTON June 27, 1828 in Holy Name Of Mary Church, Calvary, Ky. He was born December 04, 1802 in Virginia, and died September 1881 in Mission Township, Neosho Co., Ks. Notes for ABSOLOM HILL JOHNSTON: Parents Could of been William Johnston II, married Ann Flint, per Norma Roberts nrobert@apexcorp.com Lived for many years in Grayson Co., Ky Res of St. Paul 1870 `````````````````````````````````````````````````` 1850 Grayson County, Ky Census dwelling #106 Josiah V Johnson age 34 M farmer $200 b. Ky. Mary J age 40 F b. Ky. Mary M age 11 F b. Ky. Nancy E age 10 F b. Ky. Sarah J age 8 F b. Ky. Margaret E age 7 F b. Ky. Tamira age 5 F b. Ky. Mandana age 3 F b. Ky. Martha A age 1/12 F b. Ky. 459/459 Johnson, Josiah J. 45 Farmer Mary J. 35 Sarah J. 18 Margaret E. 17 Zamera 14 Mandona 12 Martha 10 Howard, Nancy 20 Serving John 18 Farm Laborer dwelling #127 James Johnson age 27 M farmer b. Ky. Nancy age 27 F b. Ky. Sarah E age 1/12F b. Ky. dwelling #137 John Johnson age 38 M farmer b. Ky. Kitty A age 15 F b. Ky. James J age 13 M b. Ky. Margaret J age 9 F b. Ky. Martha J age 6 F b. Ky. dwelling #379 Isaac Johnson age 67 M farmer b. Ky. Sally age 63 F b. Ky. John M age 24 M farmer b. Ky. Jeremiah age 22 M farmer b. Ky. dwelling #455 Abselom H Johnson age 48 M farmer $800 b. Va. Elizabeth age 48 F b. Ky. William age 21 M farmer b. Ky. Bennet age 19 M farmer b. Ky. George age 16 M farmer b. Ky. Robert age 14 M b. Ky. Pius age 13 M b. Ky. James age 8 M b. Ky. Susan age 5 F b. Ky. John age 2 M b. Ky. dwelling #513 James Johnson age 35 M farmer $200 b. Ky. Matilda age 34 F b. Ky. Benjamin H age 13 M b. Ky. Thomas W age 11 M b. Ky. Christopher age 8 M b. Ky. James W age 6 M b. Ky. Marcilla age 3 F b. Ky. Alezander age 1 M b. Ky. dwelling #520 Amy Johnson age 54 F b. Ky. John age 23 M farmer $25 b. Ky. Elizabeth A age 21 F b. Ky. dwelling #673 Archibald J Johnson age 26 M farmer b. Ky. Mary age 23 F b. Ky. dwelling #674 Archibald T Johnson age 27 M farmer b. Ky. Mary age 22 F b. Ky. Sarah age 4 F b. Ky. Isaac age 1 M b. Ky. Cary Raymer age 18 M farmer b. Ky. dwelling #726 William Johnson age 29 M farmer $150 b. Ky. Margaret age 29 F b. NC. Hasten age 11 M b. Ky. Mary A age 9 F b. Ky. Sarah F age 7 F b. Ky. Martha J age 5 F b. Ky. Mrgaret age 3 F b. Ky. Teresa age 1 F b. Ky. dwelling #1033 Joseph E Johnson age 28 M farmer $25 b. Ky. Elizabeth age 25 F b. Ky. Henrietta age 4 F b. Ky. Hannah age 1 F b. Ky. Children of MARY THOMAS and ABSOLOM JOHNSTON are: i. WILLIAM3 JOHNSTON, b. 1829, KY. 2. ii. ANN ELIZABETH JOHNSTON, b. 1830. iii. BENNET JOHNSTON, b. 1831, KY; m. M. C. LEE, 1871, Neosho County, Ks; b. 1849. iv. GEORGE A. JOHNSTON, b. 1832, Kentucky; d. October 09, 1916, St. Paul, Ks; m. SUSAN PIERCE, April 06, 1891, Neosho County, Ks; b. 1845. 3. v. ROBERT ABELL JOHNSTON, b. 1836, Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870, 1880. vi. PIUS JOHNSTON, b. 1837, KY. vii. JAMES M. JOHNSTON, b. 1842, Kentucky; d. August 02, 1906, St Paul, Ks. viii. SUSAN E. JOHNSTON, b. 1845, Kentucky; d. February 23, 1922, St. Paul, Ks. 4. ix. JOHN A. JOHNSTON, b. October 22, 1847, Grayson Co., Ky; d. June 1923, Neosho Co., Ks. x. BENNET A. JOHNSTON, b. 1856, Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870. xi. JAMES A. JOHNSTON, b. 1864. xii. CLARISA JOHNSTON, b. 1866, ILL; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870. Generation No. 2 2. ANN ELIZABETH3 JOHNSTON (MARY ELIZABETH2 THOMAS, BENJAMIN1) was born 1830. She married SAMUEL PIERCE. He was born 1827, and died in res St Paul, Ks 1870. Notes for SAMUEL PIERCE: [99_Jarboe.FTW] Had 12 chlidren Children of ANN JOHNSTON and SAMUEL PIERCE are: i. SARAH J.4 PIERCE, b. 1848, Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870; m. W. E. FISHER, May 01, 1868, Neosho County, Ks; b. 1846. ii. ELIZABETH PIERCE, b. 1850, Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870. iii. SUSAN A. PIERCE, b. 1855, Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870; m. CHARLES A. CHAMBERLAIN, February 21, 1878, Neosho County, Ks; b. 1856. iv. MARY PIERCE, b. 1860, ILL; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870. v. MARGARET PIERCE, b. 1860, Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870. vi. JOHN A. PIERCE, b. Bet. 1860 - 1862, Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870; m. JENNIE LAKE, September 20, 1881, Neosho County, Ks; b. 1862. vii. MARKHAM PIERCE, b. 1864, Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870. viii. SARA PIERCE, b. 1866, Missouri; d. res St Paul, Ks 1870. 3. ROBERT ABELL3 JOHNSTON (MARY ELIZABETH2 THOMAS, BENJAMIN1) was born 1836 in Kentucky, and died in res St Paul, Ks 1870, 1880. He married MARY [JOHNSTON]. She was born Abt. 1840 in Kentucky. Children of ROBERT JOHNSTON and MARY [JOHNSTON] are: i. WILLIAM4 JOHNSTON, b. 1864, Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks 1880. ii. AUGUSTINE JOHNSTON, b. 1875, Kentucky. iii. ROBERT JOHNSTON, JR., b. 1877, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1880. iv. CHILD JOHNSTON, b. 1879, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1880. 4. JOHN A.3 JOHNSTON (MARY ELIZABETH2 THOMAS, BENJAMIN1) was born October 22, 1847 in Grayson Co., Ky, and died June 1923 in Neosho Co., Ks. He married TERESA E. SPEAKE August 08, 1876 in Neosho County, Ks, daughter of WILLIAM SPEAKE and MARY EADES. She was born January 01, 1852 in Grayson Co., Ky, and died in res St. Paul, Ks 1870. Notes for JOHN A. JOHNSTON: [99_Jarboe.FTW] Excerpts from the "St. Paul Annals" published in 1942 Journal, June 21, 1923 John A. Johnston, the well-known stock farmer near South Mond, died Monday. Age 75 years. Bio in "History of Neosho and Wilson Counties" published in 1902 JOHN A. JOHNSTON--One of the early settlers of Lincoln township, Neosho county, was he whose name heads this article. He was a young man of twenty years when he accompanied his parents hither from Grayson county, Kentucky, where he was born on October 22, 1847. He is one of a family of six sons and three daughters, children of Absolom and Mary E. (Thomas) Johnston. The father was born in Virginia in 1800 and came, as a child, into Kentucky where he was reared and married, and resided till his departure for Kansas in 1867. Absolom Johnston was one of the splendid characters of Neosho county. He was gentle, kind and obliging and died in September, 1881, without having an enemy in the county. He and his matronly wife who died in April, 1882, reared a family of nine children, our subject being the youngest of the group. John A. Johnston preempted a claim in Neosho county and secured his patent from the government. He prospered at farming and in 1880 engaged in the shipping of stock, which business has grown from the most modest handing of the marketable stock over a wide extent of territory. The little village of South Mound is his shipping point and much of the prominence of the place results from the business which he brings to it. Since 1875 he has resided one and one-half miles north of town where he accumulated an estate of a section and one-half of land. Two quarter sections of this he has set off to two children, leaving him with a square farm of six hundred and forty acres, one of the valuable tracts of Lincoln township. August 8, 1876, Mr. Johnston married Teresa Speake, a daughter of William and Mary (Eads) Speake and the eighth birth of their eleven children. She was born in Grayson county, Kentucky, January 1, 1852, and six years later her mother died. The family afterward moved to Sangamon county, Illinois, then to Bates county, Missouri, and, in 1867, to Neosho county, Kansas. Here Mr. Speake was prominent as a farmer and died in 1873. Of Mr. and Mrs. Johnston's family of seven children, six survive, as follows. Fred, Charles Roy, Paul Bertram, Frances A., Stella, and John and Omer. Mr. Johnston possesses in a great measure, the popular personal traits of his distinquished father. He is bound to the world by ties of human sympathy and the measure of it is felt in the kind acts and worthy deeds emanating from his brain. He came to the county poor and the accumulations of thirty-five years have marked him as one of the safe and successful business men of Neosho county. Children of JOHN JOHNSTON and TERESA SPEAKE are: i. BERTRAM4 JOHNSTON. 5. ii. CHARLES JOHNSTON, b. 1865, Kentucky; d. res St Paul, Ks 1920. iii. FRANCES A. JOHNSTON. iv. JOHN JOHNSTON. v. OMER JOHNSTON. 6. vi. FRED JOHNSTON, b. 1878, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1920. 7. vii. ROY JOHNSTON, b. 1880, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1920. viii. MARY ESTELLA JOHNSTON, b. March 30, 1887, South Mound, Ks; d. December 15, 1951, San Fernando, CA; m. PAUL MADISON 'PERRY' BROWN, October 1907, St. Joseph Church, South Mound, Ks; b. May 17, 1884, Erie, Ks; d. July 24, 1931, San Fernando, CA. Notes for PAUL MADISON 'PERRY' BROWN: [99_Jarboe.FTW] Both buried at St. Frances Cemetery, St. Paul, Ks Generation No. 3 5. CHARLES4 JOHNSTON (JOHN A.3, MARY ELIZABETH2 THOMAS, BENJAMIN1) was born 1865 in Kentucky, and died in res St Paul, Ks 1920. He married MISSOURI [JOHNSON]. She was born 1875 in Missouri. Children of CHARLES JOHNSTON and MISSOURI [JOHNSON] are: i. WILFORD5 JOHNSTON, b. 1900, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1920. ii. EMERY JOHNSTON, b. 1902. iii. HERBERT JOHNSTON, b. 1904. iv. MARIE JOHNSTON, b. 1907. v. RUTH JOHNSTON, b. 1909. vi. MELLINA JOHNSTON, b. 1911. vii. PAULINE JOHNSTON, b. 1913. viii. EUGENE JOHNSTON, b. 1916, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1920. 6. FRED4 JOHNSTON (JOHN A.3, MARY ELIZABETH2 THOMAS, BENJAMIN1) was born 1878 in Kansas, and died in res St Paul, Ks 1920. He married IDA [JOHNSTON]. She was born 1882 in Kansas. Children of FRED JOHNSTON and IDA [JOHNSTON] are: i. GERALD5 JOHNSTON, b. 1905, Kansas. ii. LAVON JOHNSTON, b. 1913. iii. LEOTA JOHNSTON, b. 1915. 7. ROY4 JOHNSTON (JOHN A.3, MARY ELIZABETH2 THOMAS, BENJAMIN1) was born 1880 in Kansas, and died in res St Paul, Ks 1920. He married ROSE [JOHNSTON]. She was born 1882 in Kansas. Children of ROY JOHNSTON and ROSE [JOHNSTON] are: i. LEONARD5 JOHNSTON, b. 1902. ii. MEGAN JOHNSTON, b. 1904. iii. CLIFFORD JOHNSTON, b. 1906. iv. ARNOLD JOHNSTON, b. 1909, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1920. v. WAYNE JOHNSTON, b. 1912. vi. HERMAN JOHNSTON, b. 1914. vii. CYRIL JOHNSTON, b. 1916, Kansas; d. res St Paul, Ks 1920. Thanks Randy Dunavan Longview, Texas

Has anyone else found that the name Bar (Barr) is also a spelling for Baer, Bare. What other spellings have been found? I have a Sophia Barr who married in Noble Co., IN in 1860. I believe her family originally came from fairfield Co., OH & before that Rockingham Co. Marg

M Archer and list, On Dec. 8, 1999 you had posted the desc of Jacob Bear. I found different info on BA5174.57 John Baer, and was wondering if you knew which of these are correct. Although it is not my direct line, I try to keep updated on all the Bear/Baer/Bar lines. My info is from the book " Huber-Hoover History" by Harry M. Hoover Lancaster, Pa. Printed by Mennonite Publishing House, 1928 John Bare b. June 22, 1774 Rockingham Co., Va. D. Aug. 11, 1845. Mennonite; farmer; later moved to Ohio. Married Mary Wenger b. July 14, 1776 D. Sept. 19, 1848 Daughter of Joseph Wenger 1747/1812 and Barbara Huber 1747/1792. Joseph 2nd wife was Anna Hollman. Issue of John Bare and Mary Wenger Anna Bare -m- Peter Blosser Abraham Bare -m- Anna Hoover Barbara Bare -m- Jacob Christophel Christina Bare -m- John Culp Mary Bare Fanny Bare Elizabeth Bare -m- Henry Shank John Bare (Rev) -m- Anna Blosser Magdalene Bare Joseph Bare -m- Barbara Christophel Christain Bare (Rev) -m- Esther Shank Henry Bare Susanna Bare The info you have is from the book " The Wenger Book" Samuel S. Wenger, 1978. BA5174.57 John Baer, b. June 22, 1774; d. Aug. 11, 1848, Mahoning Co,; Mennonite; farmer; moved to Ohio ca. 1830; 14 ch. M. Nov. 2, 1795, Mary Wenger (WC96), b. July 14, 1776 d. Sept 19, 1848; Mennonite; dau of Joseph G. Wenger and Barbara Hoover. Issue: Ephraim Baer Leannah Baer Laney Baer -m- Henry Neff, Major; lived in Rockingham Co. in 1894 Dorothy Baer -m- Christopher Crest John Baer -m- Heisinger Dorah Baer, single Reuben Baer As you can see the parents names, except Baer/Bare being spelled different, but I find that a lot. The birthdates are the same except for John's death year being off by 3 years, no big deal, but none of the children's names are the same. Does anyone know which source is correct? I just hate spending money on published books if the info isn't even correct. Debbie Bear