Ken, I believe this is a different set of Irvine's. William had a brother Robert that married Mary Elizabeth Helmeck 14 Sept 1854. Robert moved with James & Nancy (his parents) to Rush, IN. in the 1860's Faye In a message dated 7/4/2004 12:43:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Ken Morris" <[email protected]> writes: >John Green's second wife was Nancy J. Irvine d/o Robert and Sarah Morris >Irvine. Sarah was dau of 4th GGrandfather. But this ties the Irvines in > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:01 PM >Subject: Re: [VAROCKBR] Margaret Armstong > > >> Ken, >>   I have a copy of his marriage license to Ella Irvine, Sena's (my >grandmother) sister. Her Father was William Montgomery Irvine and her Mother >was Martha J. Goodbar Irvine.  The marriage license had Margaret (no last >name) and no father was listed.  They were married in 1883 and he died in >1887.  He was struck by lightening.  They had 3 girls.  I can't seem to find >that paperwork at this time this is from memory so I don't remember exact >dates.  Ella remarried, to Samuel Irvine, and they moved to Green County, IN >around 1910. >>   The information I received from a cousin said that Andrew had a half >brother, William Armstrong.  I found him in the 1880 census for Buffalo >District at the household of John Green.  Ella was also listed in the same >household at that time as a cousin.  I don't know where John Green's family >comes in unless it is through James & Sally Ludwick.  James's sister Mary >married Robert Green.  Ella was 14 when they got married. >>   I also have been in contact with William's ggggranddaughter. She >provided me with a lot of information about Ella's family but she didn't >have anything on William.  The W&L library had the article about his death. >It was not an obituary but an article about his and another childs death by >lightening. >>   When John and Margaret got married in 1867 William would have been what >6 years old.  I do not have anything to prove that Margaret Armstrong Black >Smith was William's mother at this time. >>   I think that about covers it. >> >> Thank you, >> Faye >> >> >> In a message dated 6/29/2004 9:46:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Ken >Morris" <[email protected]> writes: >> >> >Faye >> >Thomas Ayres died19 Feb 1882 of pneumonia, age 80yr 1mo h/o Magdelene, >rpt'd >> >by wife. >> >So Margaret did not marry Thomas Ayres. How do you know about son >William??? >> >Ken >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: <[email protected]> >> >To: <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:10 AM >> >Subject: Re: [VAROCKBR] Margaret Armstong >> > >> > >> >> Donna, >> >> I know Margaret had a son, William, born around 1861 but his last name >> >was Armstrong. If she was married to Thomas Ayres at the time why didn't >he >> >use his last name? I don't have a lot of information on she or John. If I >> >get more information I will pass it along to you. >> >> >> >> Thank you for you help. >> >> Faye >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== VAROCKBR Mailing List ==== >> >> NOTICE: >> >> Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, >> >> political announcements, current events, items for sale, >> >> personal messages, flames, etc. is NOT ALLOWED and will >> >> be grounds for immediate removal and exclusion from this >> >> mailing list. For comments or list administration questions, >> >> please contact mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >==== VAROCKBR Mailing List ==== >> >Search this list's archived messages! >> >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== VAROCKBR Mailing List ==== >> Search this list's archived messages! >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > > > > > >==== VAROCKBR Mailing List ==== >The End of the Year Holidays are upon us. Please remember to be kind to new Subscribers. I know I don't need to ask this of this great group, so i'll take this time to Thank everyone for a great Year of Research and wish you a Happy and Safe Holiday season. > >