This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4BC.2ACI/176.656.918.1432.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: In response to your posting: >I am looking for more information on: Engleburt Hartsook/Hartshough/Hocksock. According to Mary Mae Hartsough in her "A History of the Hartough-Harsough-harsock Family" Engleburt's father was Nicholas and mother was Catharine Elizabeth ?/Hartsock. Angleburt was first married to Christina ? and then Madoline Fox of Frederick County, Md. (somewhere else I got the date March 4, 1786). His siblings were William T. b. 1757, John b. 1760, Peter b. 1774, Elizabeth, and Nicholas. No birthdate for Angleburt/Engleburt. MM has Anglebert/Angleburt/Engleburt living in Augusta County, VA and still living there Oct. 23, 1793. They later moved to NY state and were living there in 1818. MM has Anglebert's children as Christina b. July 1770, m. Richard King on Dec. 25, 1804. Mary m. to John Pauf on January 10, 1798. Elizabeth m. Anthony King on August 3, 1795. Do you want the the ancestors of Angleburt back to Germany? MM was b. 1902 and her relatives edited and published her notes in 1964. There were some errors made in the transcribing but all in all it was an extensive work and we are deeply grateful to her. According to Barnett W. McConnell, Jr. in Hartsock Heritage "A Three hundred Year Chronicle of the Hartsock Family of Southwest VA" Englebert's cousins: Peter III, Samuel and their families followed the Great Wagon Road down through the Shenandoah Valley to southwest VA. This would be through Augusta County. Their brother Isaac settled in Bracken County, KY. The Treaty of 1763 prohibted settlers from migrating westward beyond the top of the Alleghenies. Many, many, many groups of settlers from the east migrated down this Great Wagon Road. Ironically there were at least two Isaac Hartsock's in Fairfield County, Ohio in the early 1800's; distant cousins. One family went west from PA, the other down the Shenandoah Valley, through Cumberland, to Bracken and up to Fairfield. I've probably told you more than you ever wanted to know. Back to Engleburt: IF Nicholas followed the German pattern of naming their children, the first born would be named after his grandfather=Peter. The next son would be named after his maternal grandfather. The 3rd son after the father=Nicholas. The 4th son after his father's father's father=Engleburt. Sometimes they would detour and name a child after a friend. There are two patterns for the daughters. I have a wayward note saying there is an Engelbert and Christiana Hartsaugh living in Ulepsses, Seneca County, NY in 1814. It would be interesting to do research on the settlement of Seneca County. They usually migrated when a parcel of land opened to settlement. Word was spread through the church pulpit. Some of your ancestors may have migrated on to Michigan when that opened. Or they may have gone on to Ohio via Pittsburg. Would love to hear back as to what you find out. A word of caution Englebert's grandfather Peter had brothers that migrated to NY, then to the Finger Lakes region and on to Michigan. And yes some of those branches had Engleberts. And another Jacob. I'm going to analyze the censuses and using colored stick pins and a map pin point where these different families migrated to. If you would like to check back with me in six months maybe I will have more info. Love to hear back.