This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4BC.2ACI/681.718.1421 Message Board Post: hi mary, i copied daniel reed's death cert. d. 1922 in franklin co., il. lists his father as "harry" (nickname). he is the possible son of john harvey reed b. 1806 and mary morris. what is you source for mary morris' maiden. mary appears with thomas green in the 1850 frranklin co. il census. any info greatly appreciated. bob

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The 1860 census gives Margaret but is apparently wrong.. She is 35 and our Margaret would have been 19 Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:46 AM Subject: [VAROCKBR] Margaret Armstong > > > Ken and Faye, > I checked the census for 1860 and found a Margaret married to Thomas Ayres, > age 50. Do you think it possible that Margaret married Thomas Ayres whose > household she was living in the 1850 census? I know that she was married to > Andrew Black about 3 years prior to marrying John M. Smith. Let me know what > you think. Although this isn't my line, I find it very interesting. > > Another thing, after checking the ages, it wouldn't be possible for John > M.'s father to be my husbands' ggg-grandfather's brother. He could have been > the son of my John's son, James, though. > > Donna > > OSCI > NN, VA > > http://www.picturetrail.com/donnapultz > > > > > ==== VAROCKBR Mailing List ==== > Visit the Rockbridge County, USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~varockbr/rock.htm > We have a large amount of information at the Archives, > thank's to many Volunteers. Be sure to look. >

Faye Thomas Ayres died19 Feb 1882 of pneumonia, age 80yr 1mo h/o Magdelene, rpt'd by wife. So Margaret did not marry Thomas Ayres. How do you know about son William??? Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [VAROCKBR] Margaret Armstong > Donna, > I know Margaret had a son, William, born around 1861 but his last name was Armstrong. If she was married to Thomas Ayres at the time why didn't he use his last name? I don't have a lot of information on she or John. If I get more information I will pass it along to you. > > Thank you for you help. > Faye > > > ==== VAROCKBR Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: > Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, > personal messages, flames, etc. is NOT ALLOWED and will > be grounds for immediate removal and exclusion from this > mailing list. For comments or list administration questions, > please contact mailto:[email protected] >

Donna, I know Margaret had a son, William, born around 1861 but his last name was Armstrong. If she was married to Thomas Ayres at the time why didn't he use his last name? I don't have a lot of information on she or John. If I get more information I will pass it along to you. Thank you for you help. Faye

Ken and Faye, I checked the census for 1860 and found a Margaret married to Thomas Ayres, age 50. Do you think it possible that Margaret married Thomas Ayres whose household she was living in the 1850 census? I know that she was married to Andrew Black about 3 years prior to marrying John M. Smith. Let me know what you think. Although this isn't my line, I find it very interesting. Another thing, after checking the ages, it wouldn't be possible for John M.'s father to be my husbands' ggg-grandfather's brother. He could have been the son of my John's son, James, though. Donna OSCI NN, VA http://www.picturetrail.com/donnapultz

Ken, Rachael died in Feb. and Alfred J. died in Nov. Robert and Winfred are still living. They are the children from my mother's first marriage to Alfred Jackson Hamilton. After his death my mother married Callie E. Spencer and that is where I come in. My twin sister, Linda Sue, died in 1995 and my first name is Glenna but I go my Faye. Where did you get your disk? Faye

Faye I have Sallie as sister of Andrew J. I found about 10 John M.'s in Va in 1850 but none look good. I have on CD complete 1850 for Va. Easy to use. best 50 or 60 dollars I ever spent. Margaret was living with Thomas Ayres and Magdalin In your family I am 5 months younger than Rachel Mae also haveAlfred who died last year,Winfred and Robert. Where does Faye come in Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [VAROCKBR] State census > Ken, > The Sallie E. you have as Andrew and Sena's daughter is incorrect. Sallie is Andrew's sister. > The children of Andrew and Sena are: Bessie Ella, Ollie Virginia, Walter Jackson; Annie Eliza, Flora Margaret and Minnie Irene (my mother). > I don't know who Sherman is. He was on the 1870 census with Andrew. I have checked the 1850 & 1860 census for John and Mary but could not find them in Rockbridge or Augusta. I have check surrounding areas and I could not find them. They may have been missed on the census. > > Thank you very much for you help. > > Faye > > > ==== VAROCKBR Mailing List ==== > The Third Sunday of each month will be set aside for your "BRICK WALL" Roll Call. Please use the Surname in the Subject line and give as much as you can about the person you need. Good luck with your research. > >

Ken, The Sallie E. you have as Andrew and Sena's daughter is incorrect. Sallie is Andrew's sister. The children of Andrew and Sena are: Bessie Ella, Ollie Virginia, Walter Jackson; Annie Eliza, Flora Margaret and Minnie Irene (my mother). I don't know who Sherman is. He was on the 1870 census with Andrew. I have checked the 1850 & 1860 census for John and Mary but could not find them in Rockbridge or Augusta. I have check surrounding areas and I could not find them. They may have been missed on the census. Thank you very much for you help. Faye

According to Ruley Cemetery p-117 she was born 26 Jul 1865 and Andrew 29 Jul 1868. They were married 26 Dec 1889 Have no Sally for them > My husband is related to the Smiths and Gaylors of Rockbridge County, so I > was very interested in the discussion that you and Faye have been having about > John M. Smith and his children. I noticed that the birthdate for Andrew > Smith's wife, Sena Virginia Irvine Smith seems off if the birthdate for their > daughter, Sallie is accurate. If Sena was born in 1865 and Sallie was born in > 1871, Sena would have been only 7 years old which would be impossible. Could > there have been a typo somewhere? (As an aside, I find it interesting that > my husband's grandmother was Lora Zena Smith. It makes me wonder if they got > the name Zena from Sena.) > According tio John M.'s marriage to Margaret he was born Augusta s/o Janmes and Sarah > Also, I am wondering if John M. Smith's father James could have been the > brother of my husband's ggg-grandfather, John Smith who was married to Nelly > Gaylor? Do you have any ideas or information about them? > > Donna Pultz >

Donna, Sallie is Andrew's sister not his daughter. I don't have any information on James and Sarah, John's parents. I am still trying to get information on John. I have been trying to find something on his daughter, Sallie. I know she married James Ludwick in 1897 and I found them listed on the 1930 census in Lynchburg, VA. with a son named William. If I come up with any information I will be glad to share it with. Thank you, Faye

Ken, My husband is related to the Smiths and Gaylors of Rockbridge County, so I was very interested in the discussion that you and Faye have been having about John M. Smith and his children. I noticed that the birthdate for Andrew Smith's wife, Sena Virginia Irvine Smith seems off if the birthdate for their daughter, Sallie is accurate. If Sena was born in 1865 and Sallie was born in 1871, Sena would have been only 7 years old which would be impossible. Could there have been a typo somewhere? (As an aside, I find it interesting that my husband's grandmother was Lora Zena Smith. It makes me wonder if they got the name Zena from Sena.) Also, I am wondering if John M. Smith's father James could have been the brother of my husband's ggg-grandfather, John Smith who was married to Nelly Gaylor? Do you have any ideas or information about them? Donna Pultz _http://www.picturetrail.com/donnapultz_ (http://www.picturetrail.com/donnapultz)

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5519/4BC.2ACI/719.1 Message Board Post: There is a Jacob Ryman in my ancestry. He was born in 1838, the son of William Ryman.

Faye Margaret Armstrong d/o Thomas and Sally Gaylor married Andrew Black 22 Nov 1863. He was killed in the battle of the Wilderness 5 or 6 May 1864 She then married John M.21 Jul 1867. They had Andrew (29 Jul 1868-5 Nov 1945) Buried New Monmouth. He married Sena Virginia Irvine (26 Jul 1865-6 Jan 1939) Also buried New Monmouth.They had 6 kids that I know of. They had Sallie E born 30 Sept 1871 Birth Record) who married James William Ludwick 15 Jun 1897. All I know Who was Sherman born about 1865?? Son by his first marriage or illegitimate son of Margaret?? There was a John M who married Mary Ann Armentrout 29 Feb 1844 in Rockbridge but no idea if same John M.!! I find a death record in the Buffalo district for Margaret Smith, wh female, widow 30 Apr 1913 of old age and bronchitis, A.J. Smith Lex rpt'd. Buried Collierstown. (Ruley death records) Also page 54 of Ruley's cemetery book Find no reported death for John 1871-1896 but may have not been reported Ken > Ken > I don't have a lot. I have a marriage license for John M. Smith (43 Widowed) married Margaret Black (26) 21 July 1867. He was born in Augusta County and his parents names were James & Sarah Smith. > He had two children Andrew Jackson b. 29 July 1968 and Sallie E. b.30 Sept. 1871. If he had any by his first marriage I haven't found them. There was a Sherman listed on the 1880 census. > The family Bible does not mention he or Margaret. I got his name from a cousin and she didn't have anything but his name and that he had a step-son, William Armstrong. > I have checked the Courthouse in Lexington and found his name listed in a land book with my grandfather, but he was living on 2 acres of the land. > My Mother said he was buried in Collierstown Cemetery, but I can't find anything there. The tombstone may have been damaged or maybe there was never one put up. I found Margaret buried there but could not locate John. Margaret died in 1913 and was living with Mary Green's family, according to the 1910 census. > I contacted the Health Department but without a month, day or year they cannot help me. > > That is about it, I think. > Any help you can provide will be very much appreciated. > > Thank you, > Faye >

Ken I don't have a lot. I have a marriage license for John M. Smith (43 Widowed) married Margaret Black (26) 21 July 1867. He was born in Augusta County and his parents names were James & Sarah Smith. He had two children Andrew Jackson b. 29 July 1968 and Sallie E. b.30 Sept. 1871. If he had any by his first marriage I haven't found them. There was a Sherman listed on the 1880 census. The family Bible does not mention he or Margaret. I got his name from a cousin and she didn't have anything but his name and that he had a step-son, William Armstrong. I have checked the Courthouse in Lexington and found his name listed in a land book with my grandfather, but he was living on 2 acres of the land. My Mother said he was buried in Collierstown Cemetery, but I can't find anything there. The tombstone may have been damaged or maybe there was never one put up. I found Margaret buried there but could not locate John. Margaret died in 1913 and was living with Mary Green's family, according to the 1910 census. I contacted the Health Department but without a month, day or year they cannot help me. That is about it, I think. Any help you can provide will be very much appreciated. Thank you, Faye

Faye Tell mr more about John M. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [VAROCKBR] State census > Ken, > I am trying to find my greatgrandfather, John M. Smith. I found him on the 1880 census but not the 1900. I think he died sometime between 1896 and 1900 but I do not know which year, day or month. I thought if there was a state census maybe I could find him. I sent a message to W&L but what I got back did not tell me if there was a state census. Their only reference was the federal census. > I read it somewhere that some states had taken their own census. I don't know if Virginia was one of them. > > Thank you for your help. > Faye > > > ==== VAROCKBR Mailing List ==== > The Third Sunday of each month will be set aside for your "BRICK WALL" Roll Call. Please use the Surname in the Subject line and give as much as you can about the person you need. Good luck with your research. >

Ken, I am trying to find my greatgrandfather, John M. Smith. I found him on the 1880 census but not the 1900. I think he died sometime between 1896 and 1900 but I do not know which year, day or month. I thought if there was a state census maybe I could find him. I sent a message to W&L but what I got back did not tell me if there was a state census. Their only reference was the federal census. I read it somewhere that some states had taken their own census. I don't know if Virginia was one of them. Thank you for your help. Faye

Faye This is federal censuses. Who are you lookig for?? Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [VAROCKBR] State census > Ken, > Is this federal or state census. I have the federal census for the same areas. > I read that some states did their own census in addition to the federal census. > > Thank you, > Faye > > > ==== VAROCKBR Mailing List ==== > The Third Sunday of each month will be set aside for your "BRICK WALL" Roll Call. Please use the Surname in the Subject line and give as much as you can about the person you need. Good luck with your research. >

Ken, Is this federal or state census. I have the federal census for the same areas. I read that some states did their own census in addition to the federal census. Thank you, Faye