I'm not so much concerned with who lived there during the Civil War as during the Revolutionary War. My John was supposedly a Revolutionary Soldier, but he didn't get a pension. Did wealthy people get pensions for armed service in those days, or were they disqualified? Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Simpson" <lsimpson@effect.net.au> To: <VAPWILLI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: [VAPWILLI-L] Re: The Brawners of Brawner's Farm > Dear Norma > > I have been chasing this family for some time. The Brawner family living at > Bull Run were not the owners of the farm, they were tenant farmers. The > family were Capt. John C Brawner and his wife Jane Clark. They were married > in Westmoreland County 13 January 1827. I have not been able to discover > much more about their parents. I have a strong suspicion that this John C > fits into my family of John Cornish Brawner, but cannot find any further > evidence to support that feeling. Capt John C Brawner applied for > compensation to the damage done to his farm during the battle, but was > refused since he was not the owner of the land. > > This is his family, as I have it right now. > > Descendants of John C Brawner > > 1 John C Brawner 1798 - 1880 > .. +Jane Clark 1806 - 1877 > ........ 2 Mary V Brawner 1826 - > ........ 2 George W Brawner 1828 - 1868 > ............. +Susan Bott 1817 - > ................... 3 Mary T Brawner 1858 - > ........ 2 Martha C Brawner 1830 - 1860 > ............. +Charles B Smith 1825 - > ........ 2 Sarah J Brawner 1831 - > ............. +Jesse L Rice 1824 - > ........ 2 John Brawner 1833 - 1855 > ........ 2 James Brawner 1836 - 1865 > ............. +Cornelia 1837 - > ........ 2 Susan Brawner 1837 - > ........ 2 Charles H Brawner 1840 - > ............. +Frances Matilda (Brawner) Shepherd 1838 - 1917 > ................... 3 George Brawner 1872 - > ................... 3 Lloyd Brawner 1875 - > ........................ +Ida Athey > ................... 3 Henry Brawner 1879 - > > Fanny Shepherd was the daughter of William Lloyd Brawner and Lucy Ann > Webster and sister of my Lucy Ann (Brawner) Clark who married John Thomas > Brawner as his second wife (his first wife was Mary Catherine Speake). John > Thomas was the son of Henry Brawner and Elizabeth Annis and grandson of > John Cornish Brawner. I do not know if William Clark (who married L A B) > was related to Jane Clark. > > It is certain, however, that the John Brawner of Brawners Farm was not the > John Brawner who married Nancy Ann Speake. > > Cheers > > > Lynne Simpson > Canberra Australia > > > ==== VAPWILLI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net > >

Pensions were based on the length of service. I can't remember how many days it was but I think it was about six months. Also, pension law was not enacted until around 1830. So, if the man served less that the time then he wouldn't have qualified and if he died BEFORE the enactment of the law then he would not have be awarded a pension. Thirdly, the man got his pension by appearing in the county/state court where he lived at the time of enactment of the law. If he had moved between the war and the enactment of the law he might not have had the required witnesses for the court. This lack of witnesses would not always prevent him from getting a pension provided he had some documentation of his service. However, most of these guys had no papers to show anything and had to rely on friends and fellow soldiers to verify their service. For exact dates of enactment of the various laws you might want to contact the National Archives or the DAR. I have about a dozen relatives who served in the Rev. and only a couple received a pension even though they served with distinction. In their cases it was because they died before the law was enacted. If you want to verify service the DAR is a very good source as are various state archives. And of course some "Muster Rolls" still exist and are filed at the National Archives in D.C. Continental Troops, equal to "Regular Army" of today, had better record keeping but it still was not perfect. Many regulars served and are listed by states and even have pensions but not official Army records have been preserved. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Thompson" <nthmpsn@concentric.net> To: <VAPWILLI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [VAPWILLI-L] Re: The Brawners of Brawner's Farm > I'm not so much concerned with who lived there during the Civil War as > during the Revolutionary War. My John was supposedly a Revolutionary > Soldier, but he didn't get a pension. Did wealthy people get pensions for > armed service in those days, or were they disqualified? > > Norma > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynne Simpson" <lsimpson@effect.net.au> > To: <VAPWILLI-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 3:24 PM > Subject: [VAPWILLI-L] Re: The Brawners of Brawner's Farm > > > > Dear Norma > > > > I have been chasing this family for some time. The Brawner family living > at > > Bull Run were not the owners of the farm, they were tenant farmers. The > > family were Capt. John C Brawner and his wife Jane Clark. They were > married > > in Westmoreland County 13 January 1827. I have not been able to discover > > much more about their parents. I have a strong suspicion that this John C > > fits into my family of John Cornish Brawner, but cannot find any further > > evidence to support that feeling. Capt John C Brawner applied for > > compensation to the damage done to his farm during the battle, but was > > refused since he was not the owner of the land. > > > > This is his family, as I have it right now. > > > > Descendants of John C Brawner > > > > 1 John C Brawner 1798 - 1880 > > .. +Jane Clark 1806 - 1877 > > ........ 2 Mary V Brawner 1826 - > > ........ 2 George W Brawner 1828 - 1868 > > ............. +Susan Bott 1817 - > > ................... 3 Mary T Brawner 1858 - > > ........ 2 Martha C Brawner 1830 - 1860 > > ............. +Charles B Smith 1825 - > > ........ 2 Sarah J Brawner 1831 - > > ............. +Jesse L Rice 1824 - > > ........ 2 John Brawner 1833 - 1855 > > ........ 2 James Brawner 1836 - 1865 > > ............. +Cornelia 1837 - > > ........ 2 Susan Brawner 1837 - > > ........ 2 Charles H Brawner 1840 - > > ............. +Frances Matilda (Brawner) Shepherd 1838 - 1917 > > ................... 3 George Brawner 1872 - > > ................... 3 Lloyd Brawner 1875 - > > ........................ +Ida Athey > > ................... 3 Henry Brawner 1879 - > > > > Fanny Shepherd was the daughter of William Lloyd Brawner and Lucy Ann > > Webster and sister of my Lucy Ann (Brawner) Clark who married John Thomas > > Brawner as his second wife (his first wife was Mary Catherine Speake). > John > > Thomas was the son of Henry Brawner and Elizabeth Annis and grandson of > > John Cornish Brawner. I do not know if William Clark (who married L A B) > > was related to Jane Clark. > > > > It is certain, however, that the John Brawner of Brawners Farm was not the > > John Brawner who married Nancy Ann Speake. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Lynne Simpson > > Canberra Australia > > > > > > ==== VAPWILLI Mailing List ==== > > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > > mailto:hen1@idt.net > > > > > > > ==== VAPWILLI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Prince William County, USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapwilli/pw.htm > Check out the Prince William Archives and add your records! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/princewi.htm >