In a message dated 3/16/00 9:30:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, LeeRoses writes: << 1.3.2.6.2. Ruth Deskins -born ca. 1788 Loudon Co., VA >> Terry and others, I am home with my genealogy files and it appears that I will confuse rather than enlighten. First of All the reason that I note Ruth Diskin, daughter is from a notation in Hiatt'S Implied Marriages of Fairfax County. Her reference is Deed book R year 1788 Loudoun County, VA. I have not seen the original document, so I do not know how this information was derived. However let me tell what I do know about Frances and Ruth Diskin Padgett. Frances had two sons Reuben and Timothy and 8 daughters. I have no birth reference for the daughters but Reuben appeared on the tax rolls in 1778 and Timothy in 1782 making their respective birth years 1762 and 1766. These two birth years would rule out Ruth being the Daughter of Frances McCarty Diskin who was married to John Diskin in 1755. Given the birth years of the Padgett males Ruth probably was born about 1740 give or take. Terry you noted that John Diskins born 1696 and Died 1764 in Prince William. >From the birth of the Padgett sons it seems that Ruth and Frances were already married by the time of John's death, making a case for Ruth being a dau of the Justice of Prince William. The Padgett's did live in Loudoun but in that section that was very close to Prince William. I do not know what section of Pr WM John Diskin lived in. This would point to the mother of Ruth being Eliza Clark . Also what is your source for his date of death? If anyone is interested I can post the daughters of Frances and Ruth. Susan P. S. Lee is the book that you mentioned difficult to find?