Dear Maggie >With the reply from by Ann and Amber to Lynn Simpsons query on Zephaniah Brawner can I assume that Zephaniah is the brother of John Brawner born around 1778 and married to Lucinda Cockrell ,father to Frederick, William and Joyce Ann (my gggrandmother)? According to a copy of the death notice of Joyce Ann in 1887 she was born in the Manassas area. I would really appreciate it if someone could verify this. If only it were that easy. It has taken me roughly 2 years to get a reply from anyone on PWC, ChasCoMD lists about Zephaniah. All we have are possible names. However now we have them, there is a lot more work to do. The reason I am interested is that I have Haislips in my line. The Haislip Cemetery is actually on Zephaniah Brawner's land. Two of his daughters married Haislips, sons of Samuel Haislip who was living next to my John Thomas Brawner in 1850. John Thomas's daughter was called Annie Haislip Brawner. I am now trying to find out who the parents of John C Brawner were who married Jane Clark in Westmoreland Co in 1827. The marriage date is quite definite. You would think that somewhere there would be a church record of the marriage which identifies both their fathers ... but that seems to be almost impossible to find. Cheers > Lynne Simpson Canberra Australia

Can anyone on this list tell me anything about this COMBS? I don't have anything on him in my files. I would like to help her if I could. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <EYEKL67@aol.com> To: <combs@combs-families.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 4:24 PM Subject: Re: COMBS&c.: {Non Member} I have Combs on my mothers side and Starrs on my father. I can only go back to my ggrandfather McDuff COMBS b 1870. In Mamasse, {this is a typo-Manassas}VA and died in 1944 in Stafford VA, I have more on my Starr Line. If you would like to share e-mail me at EYEKL67@aol.com Kathy LAwson ©2000 Individual: Poster and Compilation: Combs &c. Research Group

With the reply from by Ann and Amber to Lynn Simpsons query on Zephaniah Brawner can I assume that Zephaniah is the brother of John Brawner born around 1778 and married to Lucinda Cockrell ,father to Frederick, William and Joyce Ann (my gggrandmother)? According to a copy of the death notice of Joyce Ann in 1887 she was born in the Manassas area. I would really appreciate it if someone could verify this. Thanks , Maggie Dougherty

Dear List I am really impressed and totally confused. Could someone interpret this information for me. I do not have access to Ancestry.com databases and have no idea how they work. Thank you Anne and Amber ... but HELP! Cheers Lynne Simpson Canberra Australia >______________________________X-Message: #3 >Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:34:19 -0500 >From: "ANNE B. MUSSER" <muss@worldnet.att.net> Thanks Amber. I appreciate it. Anne >----- Original Message ----- >From: Amber / Boyce Jaynes <ambojay@bellsouth.net> Dear Ann, These things I found on ancestry.com Amber Database: War of 1812 Muster Rolls Combined Matches: 1 Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank - Discharge MISC ROLL-BOX ROLL-EXCT BRAWNER ZEPHANIAH 36 REG'T (RENNO'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. PRIVATE PRIVATE 24 602 Database: Prince William County, VA Wills, Part 1, 1734-1925 Combined Matches: 1 Year of first entry Surname Given Name Wills/Book Wills/Page Inventory and Appraisements/Book Inventory and Appraisements/Page Accounts/Book Accounts/Page Accounts/Book Accounts/Page Final Account/Book Final Account/Page Inheritance Tax/Book Inheritance Tax/Page List of Heirs/Book List of Heirs/Page 1866 Brawner Zephaniah R 278 R 520 R 766 Ancestry World Tree Viewer Pedigree For: Edward Brawner Zephaniah Brawner Edward Brawner (Unknown) Zephaniah Brawner (Unknown) Ann Franklin (Unknown) Spouse & Children* Siblings* Symbol Key [None] John Brawner William Brawner Jenet Brawner Elizabeth Brawner Theopholis Brawner Priscilla Brawner Ann Brawner Back 1 Generation Return to search results Make Individual Root link View Personal Information * Spouse, children and siblings of Zephaniah Brawner

Lynn, It is my understanding that Rootsweb has been purchased by Ancestry.com and that the databases are now, or will shortly be free for everyone for a limited amount of time. You might want to go to their site and check it out. I won't go into the listing since Sandy already helped with that. Good luck. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Simpson <lsimpson@effect.net.au> To: <VAPWILLI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 7:37 AM Subject: [VAPWILLI-L] Re: Zephaniah Brawner Information > Dear List > > I am really impressed and totally confused. Could someone interpret this > information for me. I do not have access to Ancestry.com databases and have > no idea how they work. Thank you Anne and Amber ... but HELP! > > Cheers > > Lynne Simpson > Canberra Australia > > >______________________________X-Message: #3 > >Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:34:19 -0500 > >From: "ANNE B. MUSSER" <muss@worldnet.att.net> > > Thanks Amber. I appreciate it. > Anne > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Amber / Boyce Jaynes <ambojay@bellsouth.net> > > Dear Ann, > These things I found on ancestry.com > Amber > > Database: War of 1812 Muster Rolls Combined Matches: 1 > > Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank - > Discharge MISC ROLL-BOX ROLL-EXCT > BRAWNER ZEPHANIAH 36 REG'T (RENNO'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. PRIVATE PRIVATE > 24 602 > > Database: Prince William County, VA Wills, Part 1, 1734-1925 > Combined Matches: 1 > > Year of first entry Surname Given Name Wills/Book Wills/Page Inventory and > Appraisements/Book Inventory and Appraisements/Page Accounts/Book > Accounts/Page Accounts/Book Accounts/Page Final Account/Book Final > Account/Page Inheritance Tax/Book Inheritance Tax/Page List of Heirs/Book > List of Heirs/Page > 1866 Brawner Zephaniah R 278 R 520 R 766 > > Ancestry World Tree Viewer > Pedigree For: Edward Brawner > > Zephaniah Brawner Edward Brawner > > (Unknown) > > Zephaniah Brawner > > (Unknown) > > Ann Franklin > > > (Unknown) > > Spouse & Children* Siblings* Symbol Key > > [None] > John Brawner > William Brawner > Jenet Brawner > Elizabeth Brawner > Theopholis Brawner > Priscilla Brawner > Ann Brawner > > Back 1 Generation > Return to search results > Make Individual Root > link View Personal Information > > * Spouse, children and siblings of Zephaniah Brawner > > > ==== VAPWILLI Mailing List ==== > Over 6,100 Discussion Lists and More Added Daily!!! > USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! > Special thanks to go to RootsWeb, your generous donations to > RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > >

Lynne I apologize...I guess I am use to folks knowing about the headings....glad someone cleared it up..... AJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Simpson <lsimpson@effect.net.au> To: <VAPWILLI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 8:37 AM Subject: [VAPWILLI-L] Re: Zephaniah Brawner Information > Dear List > > I am really impressed and totally confused. Could someone interpret this > information for me. I do not have access to Ancestry.com databases and have > no idea how they work. Thank you Anne and Amber ... but HELP! > > Cheers > > Lynne Simpson > Canberra Australia > > >______________________________X-Message: #3 > >Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:34:19 -0500 > >From: "ANNE B. MUSSER" <muss@worldnet.att.net> > > Thanks Amber. I appreciate it. > Anne > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Amber / Boyce Jaynes <ambojay@bellsouth.net> > > Dear Ann, > These things I found on ancestry.com > Amber > > Database: War of 1812 Muster Rolls Combined Matches: 1 > > Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank - > Discharge MISC ROLL-BOX ROLL-EXCT > BRAWNER ZEPHANIAH 36 REG'T (RENNO'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. PRIVATE PRIVATE > 24 602 > > Database: Prince William County, VA Wills, Part 1, 1734-1925 > Combined Matches: 1 > > Year of first entry Surname Given Name Wills/Book Wills/Page Inventory and > Appraisements/Book Inventory and Appraisements/Page Accounts/Book > Accounts/Page Accounts/Book Accounts/Page Final Account/Book Final > Account/Page Inheritance Tax/Book Inheritance Tax/Page List of Heirs/Book > List of Heirs/Page > 1866 Brawner Zephaniah R 278 R 520 R 766 > > Ancestry World Tree Viewer > Pedigree For: Edward Brawner > > Zephaniah Brawner Edward Brawner > > (Unknown) > > Zephaniah Brawner > > (Unknown) > > Ann Franklin > > > (Unknown) > > Spouse & Children* Siblings* Symbol Key > > [None] > John Brawner > William Brawner > Jenet Brawner > Elizabeth Brawner > Theopholis Brawner > Priscilla Brawner > Ann Brawner > > Back 1 Generation > Return to search results > Make Individual Root > link View Personal Information > > * Spouse, children and siblings of Zephaniah Brawner > > > ==== VAPWILLI Mailing List ==== > Over 6,100 Discussion Lists and More Added Daily!!! > USGenWeb and The USGenWeb Archives! > Special thanks to go to RootsWeb, your generous donations to > RootsWeb makes this all possible. Find out more! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > >

Lynne, Let me see if I can help you with this. The data she sent was from a chart/table...the first two lines were the headings and the next two were the data. I will try to lay it out a little differently for you below... Database: War of 1812 Muster Rolls Combined Matches: 1 (This just means there was only one match for the information she entered.) Surname...........................Brawner Given Name .....................Zephaniah Middle Initial ....................(none) Company Unit Rank..........36 Reg't (Renno's) Virginia Militia Induction Rank .................Private Discharge .........................Private MISC ............................... (none) Roll Box............................24 Roll Exct............................602 Database: Civil War Muster Rolls (There were 149 entries for the surname BRAWNER, but none that matched with Zephaniah) Database: Prince William County, VA Wills, Part 1, 1734-1925 Combined Matches: 1 Year of first entry...............................1866 Surname ............................................Brawner Given Name .......................................Zephaniah Wills/Book..........................................blank Wills/Page...........................................blank Inventory andAppraisements/Book.....R Inventory and Appraisements/Page......278 Accounts/Book...................................R Accounts/Page....................................520 Second Account/Book........................blank Second Account/Page.........................blank Final Account/Book............................blank FinalAccount/Page..............................blank Inheritance Tax/Book..........................blank Inheritance Tax/Page...........................blank List of Heirs/Book...............................R List of Heirs/Page................................766 Ancestry World Tree Zephaniah Brawner Birth: 08/November/1782 Death: blank Spouse: blank Parents: Edward Brawner, Ann Franklin Grandparents: Edward Brawner, Unknown Siblings: John Brawner William Brawner Jenet Brawner Elizabeth Brawner Theopholis Brawner Priscilla Brawner Ann Brawner That's about all I can help you with right now, hope it is okay. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Simpson" <lsimpson@effect.net.au> To: <VAPWILLI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 8:37 AM Subject: [VAPWILLI-L] Re: Zephaniah Brawner Information > Dear List > > I am really impressed and totally confused. Could someone interpret this > information for me. I do not have access to Ancestry.com databases and have > no idea how they work. Thank you Anne and Amber ... but HELP! > > Cheers > > Lynne Simpson > Canberra Australia

Dear Ann Thanks for replying to my query about Zephaniah. I did not have the information about Francis Pridmore. The Brawner family I am following is a major line of my husband's family. Their oral history has it that all the Brawners in Prince William were related, but how is lost in antiquity. Somehow I get the feeling that Zephaniah is one of the keys. It would be interesting to discover who his first wife and family were and when he is first recorded in PWC. Somehow Zephaniah, William L, Capt John C and Henry Brawner are all connected quite closely. Unfortunately no-one seems to be able to shed any light on how. If anyone knows ... could you let us all into the secret, please. Cheers Lynne Simpson Canberra Australia

Thanks Amber. I appreciate it. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: Amber / Boyce Jaynes <ambojay@bellsouth.net> To: <VAPWILLI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 9:49 AM Subject: [VAPWILLI-L] Brawners > Dear Ann, > These things I found on ancestry.com > Amber > > Database: War of 1812 Muster Rolls > Combined Matches: 1 > > Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank - > Discharge MISC ROLL-BOX ROLL-EXCT > BRAWNER ZEPHANIAH 36 REG'T (RENNO'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. PRIVATE PRIVATE > 24 602 > > Database: Prince William County, VA Wills, Part 1, 1734-1925 > Combined Matches: 1 > > > > Year of first entry Surname Given Name Wills/Book Wills/Page Inventory and > Appraisements/Book Inventory and Appraisements/Page Accounts/Book > Accounts/Page Accounts/Book Accounts/Page Final Account/Book Final > Account/Page Inheritance Tax/Book Inheritance Tax/Page List of Heirs/Book > List of Heirs/Page > 1866 Brawner Zephaniah R 278 R 520 R 766 > > Ancestry World Tree Viewer > Pedigree For: Edward Brawner > > > Zephaniah Brawner Edward Brawner > > (Unknown) > > > Zephaniah Brawner > > > > > > (Unknown) > > Ann Franklin > > > (Unknown) > > > > > Spouse & Children* Siblings* Symbol Key > > [None] > John Brawner > William Brawner > Jenet Brawner > Elizabeth Brawner > Theopholis Brawner > Priscilla Brawner > Ann Brawner > > Back 1 Generation > Return to search results > Make Individual Root > link View Personal Information > > > > * Spouse, children and siblings of Zephaniah Brawner > > > > > ==== VAPWILLI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net >

Dear Ann, These things I found on ancestry.com Amber Database: War of 1812 Muster Rolls Combined Matches: 1 Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank - Discharge MISC ROLL-BOX ROLL-EXCT BRAWNER ZEPHANIAH 36 REG'T (RENNO'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. PRIVATE PRIVATE 24 602 Database: Prince William County, VA Wills, Part 1, 1734-1925 Combined Matches: 1 Year of first entry Surname Given Name Wills/Book Wills/Page Inventory and Appraisements/Book Inventory and Appraisements/Page Accounts/Book Accounts/Page Accounts/Book Accounts/Page Final Account/Book Final Account/Page Inheritance Tax/Book Inheritance Tax/Page List of Heirs/Book List of Heirs/Page 1866 Brawner Zephaniah R 278 R 520 R 766 Ancestry World Tree Viewer Pedigree For: Edward Brawner Zephaniah Brawner Edward Brawner (Unknown) Zephaniah Brawner (Unknown) Ann Franklin (Unknown) Spouse & Children* Siblings* Symbol Key [None] John Brawner William Brawner Jenet Brawner Elizabeth Brawner Theopholis Brawner Priscilla Brawner Ann Brawner Back 1 Generation Return to search results Make Individual Root link View Personal Information * Spouse, children and siblings of Zephaniah Brawner

Does anyone have any information about Zephaniah Brawner, b. abt 1783 in Maryland. Married to Fanny A (Taylor?) bef. 1844 and living in Prince William in 1850. Father of Robert H, Ginetta T, Zephaniah, Ann Rebecca and Silent L. Zephaniah had land of some note. Owned the Brawner cemetery, I think. May have been married before he married Fanny. I have never seen anything about him really, yet he seemed to have been a fairly prominent citizen in Prince William. Cheers Lynne Simpson Canberra Australia

Here is what I have in my file. Do you know where he was born in Maryland? I would really appreciate any information you would be willing to share. Anne W. Bradshaw Musser Descendants of Zepheniah Brawner Generation No. 1 1. ZEPHENIAH1 BRAWNER1 was born Abt. 1793 in Maryland2. He married FANNY A.//3. She was born Abt. 1823 in Virginia4. Child of ZEPHENIAH BRAWNER and FANNY A.// is: 2. i. ANN REBECCA2 BRAWNER, b. Abt. February 1850, Prince William County, Virginia. Generation No. 2 2. ANN REBECCA2 BRAWNER (ZEPHENIAH1)5,6 was born Abt. February 1850 in Prince William County, Virginia6,7. She married JOHN PRIDMORE8,9 November 12, 1868 in Prince William County, Virginia9, son of BENJAMIN PRIDMORE and ELIZABETH LYNN. He was born Abt. 1832 in Prince William County, Virginia9. More About JOHN PRIDMORE and ANN BRAWNER: Marriage: November 12, 1868, Prince William County, Virginia9 Child of ANN BRAWNER and JOHN PRIDMORE is: i. FRANCIS3 PRIDMORE10, b. Abt. April 1870, Prince William County, Virginia10; d. August 05, 1870, Prince William County, Virginia10. Notes for FRANCIS PRIDMORE: The information about Francis' death was given by his uncle, Robert HAISLIP. Endnotes 1. "Prince William County, Virginia Marriages 1854-1900" by Ronald Ray Turner. 2. Census 1850, Prince William County, Virginia census lists him as 67 years old, born in Md. 3. "Prince William County, Virginia Marriages 1854-1900" by Ronald Ray Turner. 4. Census 1850, Prince William County, Virginia census lists her as 37 years old, born in Va. 5. Lynne Simpson (lsimpson@effect.net.au. 6. "Prince William County, Virginia Marriages 1854-1900" by Ronald Ray Turner. 7. Census 1850, Prince William County, Virginia census lists her as 6 months old. Their census page is dated August 1, 1850. 8. Darrell Thurman (Badge 757@aol.com). 9. "Prince William County, Virginia Marriages 1854-1900" by Ronald Ray Turner. 10. "Prince William County, Virginia Death Records 1853-1896" by Ronald Ray Turner. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Simpson <lsimpson@effect.net.au> To: <VAPWILLI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 11:30 AM Subject: [VAPWILLI-L] Zephaniah Brawner > Does anyone have any information about Zephaniah Brawner, b. abt 1783 > in Maryland. Married to Fanny A (Taylor?) bef. 1844 and living in Prince > William in 1850. > > Father of Robert H, Ginetta T, Zephaniah, Ann Rebecca and Silent L. > > Zephaniah had land of some note. Owned the Brawner cemetery, I think. > May have been married before he married Fanny. > > I have never seen anything about him really, yet he seemed to have been > a fairly prominent citizen in Prince William. > > Cheers > > > Lynne Simpson > Canberra Australia > > > ==== VAPWILLI Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed. Feel free to contact Yvonne James-Henderson, > list administrator with questions concerning this list! > mailto:hen1@idt.net >

I have just discovered, from pension applications, that my GGGAunt Ann Beckham and her husband Harrison Legg were married in Prince William Co. at her father's home. There is a listing, in both Wertz and Jewell for Loudoun Co., of their marriage 9 Dec 1813 by John McPherson. The record was filed 3 Feb 1814 in Loudoun Co. My question: does any one else have a marriage by Rev. McPherson in Prince William Co.? Could he have traveled from a Loudoun base? I think he was Methodist.. I will really appreciate any clues! Gloria in MD GALBINAK@aol.com

Hello Listers, It seems my ggg grandfather James Bolan/Bolen was born in Virginia. UNFORTUNATELY I know not which county or area that he came from AND his wife also is suppose to be from Virginia. She is Eleanor Schlagle. Is anyone familiar with these families? James was born about 1805. I don't know about Eleanor but probably close to that time. James and Eleanor show up in Monroe Co. Ohio in the 1850 census. If anyone can point me in the right area I appreciate it. Amber in Georgia Copen/Copin surnames from Prince William. (also may be Hughes and Foster)

I think you are looking for the 8870 System for computing a birth date from death information. Example: ( d. May 6, 1889, age 71 yrs, 7 mo, 9 days) Yr. Mo. Day Write Date - 18890506 Subtract Death Info 710709 18179797 Subtract 8870 18170927 = Yr.1817, Mo. 09, Day 27 Most of the time this works fairly well, however there are times the final number will have to be worked on further to get it to an actual yr, mo, and day that makes sense. You'll see what I mean when it actually comes out with an odd calculation. Joan

Hi, I am interested in your Thomas line. My gggg grandfather was Ben Thomas form Prince William Co. could he be an uncle to your Susan? Catherine

I misplaced (that's no surprise) the formula for computing birth dates from death dates, Yr. Mo. Dy. Would any one have that handy to send me. Thanks Bob Welles

In a message dated 6/15/00 10:17:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, emamcd@erols.com writes: << I live in Stafford Co. their are a lot of Thomas in this area and also Lightner families >> Hi Esther I have Wells lost in Prince William. I wonder if you have run into any in Stafford? Bob Welles

Falmouth is in Stafford co. Va. zip code 22406 now. I live in Stafford Co. their are alot of Thomas in this area and also Lightner families. The church that is in ruins was the Union Church, nondemonationlly. The Wallace Library in Fredericksburg has obit index. I voluntary at the FHC here. We have a book of marraige for this area and it lists the minister and what church they were from. If you e-mail privately, when I go next Wed, I can look up the information. My E-mail is emamcd@erols.com Hope to hear from you, Esther

I lived in Falmouth, VA for a number of years. From a postal point of view Falmouth, VA is part of Fredericksburg, VA. The Falmouth Station used to be zip code 22405 but I am not sure that is still true. I no longer live there. There is an old, burned out church, now only the brick front and steeple in near the US17 bridge in Falmouth. It has a sizeable cemetery behind it. I believe it was a Baptist church but I am not sure. There is also, Falmouth Baptist Church, across the street. You may want to contact any or all of the following concerning this man: the church mentioned above, Fredericksburg Historical Society, Stafford & Fredericksburg's Genealogical Societies ( I am pretty sure Fred. has one but not so sure of Stafford), the FreeLance Star Newspaper (has been around a long time and may have something in the morgue if they are willing to look--they also have a weekend feature on local history w/photos--that writer would probably be the one you want), Mary Washington College-history department, U.S.Park Service-Fredericksburg Battlefield (they may know of old churches in Falmouth. Chatham (an old estate near where I lived is in reality is in Falmouth and was used as Union Hdqrs. and to shell Fred.-they might have an interest due to clergy for the Union Soldiers camped in Falmouth, some of whom camped in what became my back yard.)) AND I would write to EVERY clergyman you can find listed in the Fredericksburg and Falmouth area phone directories. It is a very historical area and you may find a preacher with a bend toward the history Pre-Civil-War clergy. Oh, and one more, BE SURE and contact: First Baptist Church Fredericksburg and Fredericksburg Presbyterian Church. Both buildings and congregations predate the Civil War. I seem to remember seeing the name Lightner somewhere. A few calls to the two churches listed might pay off. Both have plaques in front and inside as does Aquia Episcopal in Stafford. One of these plaques may be where I saw the name. You might also want to contact the Rector of Aquia. It dates to colonial days and has most if not all their ministers buried in the cemetery.