This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MCCRICKETT MCCRICKARD MCMURRAY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3AC.2ACE/1437 Message Board Post: I am trying to establish a complete list of children for John McCrickett/McCrickard (b. ABT 1775, Down, Ireland, d. 3/1855, Frying Pan Creek, Pittsylvania Co, VA) and Sarah McMurray (b. BET 1760 - 1770, d. BET 1830 - 1840, probably Pittsylvania Co, VA), m. 6/8/1802, Pittsylvania Co, VA. Listed below is census data for John Sr: 1820 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania County: John McCrickard: Free White Males Free White Females <10 4 1 10-16 2 45-100 1 1 * Assuming that the male and female aged 45-100 are John and Sarah, there are 6 other males and 1 other female in the household. 1830 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania Co: John McCrickard: Free White Males Free White Females 5-10 1 10-15 1 1 15-20 2 20-30 2 50-60 1 60-70 1 * There were also two female slaves listed, one < 10 and one 24-34 ** Assuming that the male age 50-60 is John, and the female, age 60-70 is Sarah, there are 6 other males and 1 other female in the household. 1840 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania County, 107th Regiment: John McCrickard: Free White Males Free White Females 5-10 1 15-20 1 20-30 2 30-40 1 60-70 1 Slaves 1 (no gender or age given) * Assuming that the male aged 60-70 is John and that Sarah has now passed away, there are 3 other males and 2 other females in the household. 1850 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania County, Northern District, 10/2/1850: 682 682 Mary McCrickard 30 F VA cannot read/w Thomas 26 M Laborer VA Isabelle Previt 15 F VA John McCrickard 75 M None Ireland Listed below is the date I have gathered on the children of John and Sarah: JOHN, JR: (The 1850 census puts John's year of birth at 1803/4 and the 1860 census at 1809/10. The marriage record does not indicate an age. I was also given a birth date of 9/17/04.) 1850 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania, Northern District, 10/2/1850: 691 691 Samuel Berger 46 M Merchant $1910(R/E) VA Hester Ann 36 F VA Mary 15 F VA attended sch Jacob 13 M VA attended sch Daniel 11 M VA attended sch Henry 9 M VA attended sch Anna 6 F VA attended sch Samuel 4 M VA Fanny 2 F VA William Muncee 25 M Laborer VA John McCrickard 46 M Laborer VA cannot read/w Ooshua Bausefield 21 M Overseer VA 1860 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania Co, North District, 7/26/1860: 1111 1111 John McCrickard 50 M Farm Labor $200(R/E) $50 (Per) VA cannot read/w Mary 39 F VA cannot read/w Isabella Prenvio 27 F Mulatto VA Elizabeth 8 F Mulatto VA William J 5 M Mulatto VA Martha J 2 F Mulatto VA John 5/12 M Mulatto VA * Isabella was living with Mary, Thomas and John SR in 1850 ROBERT MCCRICKARD: (The 1850 census puts Robert's year of birth at 1811/12, and the 1860 census at 1809/10.) 1850 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania Co, Northern District, 9/30/1850: 511 511 Robert McCrickard 38 M Laborer VA cannot read/w Elizabeth 40 F VA Sarah 12 F VA attended sch Thomas 11 M VA attended sch Elizabeth 8 F VA attended sch Susan 6 F VA Fanny 2 F VA Catharin Bird 17 F Mulatto 1860 US Census, VA, Franklin, NE Division, 6/23/1860: 83 83 Rob't McCrickard 50 M Farm Labor VA cannot read/w Elizabeth 51 F VA John T 20 M Labor in Factory VA Susan H 15 F VA attended sch Fannie T 12 F VA attended sch Catharine Bird 25 F VA cannot read/w WILLIAM: (The 1860 census puts William's date of birth at 1812/13, and the 1870 at 1813/14.) 1860 US Census, VA Pittsylvania County, North District, 8/5/1860: 577 577 William McCrickard 47 M Farmer $800 (R/E) $100 (Per) VA cannot read/w Gilley 46 F VA Samuel H 19 M Farm Labor VA Hughes Walker 20 M Farm Labor VA Martin A 17 M VA 1870 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania, Subdivision North of Dan River, 7/11/1870: 1404 1608 McCrickard, William 56 M W Farmer $2000(R/E) $140(Per) VA Gillie 56 F W Keeping House VA Samuel H 31 M W Farm Laborer VA Edny 19 F W Without Occupation VA THOMAS: (The 1850 census puts Thomas' year of birth at 1823/24,and the 1870 at 1819/20.) 1850 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania County, Northern District, 10/2/1850: 682 682 Mary McCrickard 30 F VA cannot read/w Thomas 26 M Laborer VA Isabelle Previt 15 F VA John McCrickard 75 M None Ireland 1870 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania Co, Sub Division North of Dan River, 8/10/1870: 4329 4551 McCrickard, Thos 50 M W Farmer VA cannot read/write Mary Jane 23 F W Keeping House VA cannot read/write Martha 10 F W At Home SAMUEL: (The 1850 census puts Samuel's year of birth at 1827/28 and the 1860 census at 1822/23.) 1850 US Census, VA, Pittsylvania County, Northern District, 10/1/1850: 668 668 Samuel McCrickard 22 M Farmer VA cannot read/w Polly 41 F VA 1860 US Census, VA Pittsylvania County, North District, 7/20/1860: 437 437 Samuel McCrickard 37 M Farmer $950 (R/E) $150 (Per) VA cannot read/w Polly 57 F VA Salisto Miller 23 F VA cannot read/w Keeping in mind that the ages listed in the census have been know to be incorrect, and some of my assumptions are based on marriage data as well, here's the delima: 1. John and Sarah have 6 males and 1 female listed in the 1820 census, yet one of their known sons, Samuel, hadn't been born yet. I can account for the 4 males that are < 10: Robert, William, Thomas, and Matthew; and one of the males that are age 10-16, John, Jr. Who is the other male age 10-16? Is this a laborer living with the family or are we missing a son (that would have moved out by the 1830 census)? 2. In all the McCrickard family trees I've seen, I've never seen a daughter. Am I incorrect in assuming that Mary appearing in the 1850 and 1860 census is John and Sarah's daughter? 3. Who is the female age 5-10 in the 1840 census? Could this be Isabelle Previt (who was shown at age 15 in the 1850 census and 27 in the 1860 census, making her year of birth between 1832 - 1835)? And who is the father of Isabelle's children? (I suspect that it is John, Jr.) Any answers, speculation, etc. would be welcome! Thanks.