Hi all. Just thought I would interject here. I don't know much about those you are discussing, but I thought I'd shed some light on "Fannie" and Frances/Francis. Francis - male version of the name. It has the "I". Frances - female version of the name. It has the "E". Fannie is a nickname for Frances, so when you say that he had a daughter named Frances but not Fannie, this is....incorrect, unless they never called her "Fannie". I hope that I've shed some light on the situation, and helped a little. Cya, Tina Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: <DGShel@aol.com> To: <VAPITTSY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 8:06 AM Subject: [VAPITTSY-L] Re: Shelton and Payne > In a message dated 7/20/2000 4:27:47 PM Central Daylight Time, > karenwood@del.net writes: > > << Francis Payne was the grandaughter of John Shelton, by his daughter, Fannie > who had married Thomas Payne. Problem is, which Thomas Payne. That remains > a mystery to me. Fannie was dec'd before the writing of the will in 1801 >> > > Hi Karen, > > What evidence is there that John Shelton had a daughter named Fannie? He did > have a child named Francis (can't tell whether a son or daughter), but that > child was still living, and carrying the Shelton name, in 1801. Likewise, > what evidence is there that Thomas Payne had a wife name Francis/Fannie? > I agree that Francis, wife of Tunstall, was > a) the daughter of a daughter of John Shelton's who was deceased by 1801, > b) the daughter of Thomas Payne. > I just don't have any confidence that John's daughter/Thomas' wife was named > Francis/Fannie. .......