I have lost touch with Richard Bromley who was doing wonderful research into the PAYNE family. Somehow I didn't get his e-mail attached to this note. So, if Richard if you are on this list, please let me know how your research is going and send me your e-dress. In any event, here is what I have from him concerning my 5Ggrandfather William PAYNE and his progeny. "FROM Richard Bromley yes I have seen the will of William Payne of Pittsylvania Co. with wife Sarah Nance and he is from the Thomas Payne -Jane Bush connection but no real proof he was the son of Jane vs Catherine. He list no son named Thomas in his will. While he does list other sons. The Thomas who I believe married Yanaka Ayers lived in Halifax Co. and he and Yanaka sold some land before they moved. He did not live near William and Sarah Nance. He lived near the William and wife Ruth who lived and died in Halifax Co. Those two Thomas and William were brothers and came from Hanover Co. While the other William of Pittsylvania was from the Essex Co. family. The son Thomas of Thomas and Catherine Payne lived and died in Charlotte Co., at least that seems to be the current belief. There was also a John who had a son William stilled as Jr. who was mentioned in the William and Ruth will of 1771 Halifax Co. These are the families that went to Georgia I believe. There is scant real proof for any of the John, William, Thomas Paynes in that area from 1750-1780s. There was at least three different families of Paynes in the area plus two or three more from Bedford Co. later Franklin Co. Hope all this helps you a little." and later "FROM Richard BROMLEY, This William would be the son of Jane Bush and Thomas Payne Sr. of Essex Co., VA. He is not listed in the Middlesex Co., VA Christ Church Parish register as is some of Thomas' earlier children. But reading the will of Thomas it is apparent that William and Philemon are his two youngest sons and from Jane Bush his second wife. This being the case William would have been born about 9-18 months after Jane's marriage to Thomas. The death date for Thomas' first wife Catherine Lydford is unknown as is the wedding date of Jane Bush and Thomas. But based on the ages of William's children and their marriage dates, I estimate William's birth date at about 1743 and his marriage date about 1762, him being the average age of 19. I found no records of William Payne in Amelia Co. but it is known that his older brothers Thomas and John and a Reuben were in Amelia Co. since at least 1750s. This William was most likely the William Payne listed in the first Pittsylvania County Tithables list for 1767."