surnames Hancks, Hanks, Wells,Wills

Posted on: Pittsylvania Co. Va Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Pittsylvania?read=230 Surname: FITZGERALD, KIRBY, SADLER, HARRISON, CARLTON, SPRATLEN, FOSTER, JESSUP ------------------------- I am seeking information regarding Matthew Fitzgerald of Danville, VA. He was born ca 1749, m ca 1775. He and his wife, Sarah, had the following children: Matthew, b ca 1776; Elizabeth m Benjamin Kirby 16 Dec. 1816; Catherine m Creed Sadler 18 Dec. 1818; Walter m Patsy Harrison 18 Dec. 1804; Thomas w/p 22 May 1837 in Pittsylvania Co.; William m Elizabeth Carlton 29 Jan. 1812; John m/1 Jane Spratlen ca 1810, m/2 Elizabeth Wilson, and died bef 1835; Leonard m Sarah Kirby 23 July 1815; Asa b ca 1775 m Nancy Foster; & Jane b ca 1779 m____ Jessup. Who were Matthew Fitzgerald's parents? What was his wife's surname?

Does anyone have information on this Sleaton/Slaton or Dis Hong family June 6 1799, Drury HODGES was Surety for Edmond Smith Sleator (this last name is probably SLEATON) and Susanah DIS HONG in Franklin Co. VA. "Marriage bonds of Franklin Co. VA 1786-1858" by Wingfield page 208 I believe this Edmond Smith Sleaton may be related to the John and Edmund Slayden listed below. Susananh HODGES was the daughter of Edmund HODGES & Nepathia Walker, Susananh married John SLAYDEN, who had among other children an Edmund SLAYDEN born 2/13/1777 and died 11/9/1841 in Hopkins Co. KY. His grave has E. SLATON. He is named in his fathers will as Edmund SLAYDEN, and in Edmond HODGES will as Edmond SLAYTON. Most Ky records show the spelling as SLATON thanks for the help Mike

Posted on: Pittsylvania Co. Va Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Pittsylvania?read=228 Surname: Anderson, Counts, Haley, Hay, Holbrook, Self, Skaggs ------------------------- Looking for information on the parents and origin of Thomas A. Hay b. 1769(?). He married Elizabeth Haley in 1789(?). He may have been the son of John Hay who had emigrated from North Carolina; possibly after arriving from Scotland. Some names and info that may be of some help... Gen 1. Thomas A. Hay m. Elizabeth Haley Gen 2. John Wesley Hay m. Elzenia Self Gen 3. Ambrose Hay m. Phoebe Counts Gen 4. John Hay m. Nancy Jane Turner Gen 5. Wiley H. Hay m. Fancy Counts Gen 6. Carleth Ross Hay m. Private Gen 7. Private (My Parents) Can anyone shed some light? This seems to be a sticking point for many researchers of this Hay Family line. Thank you, Richard Hay

Does anyone know anything about a riot in Danville in 1883? Rick Monroe Long Beach, CA

Mr. Klumpp has done all of us on the list a great service by his discussion of courtesy and accuracy. This is from his message: I repeat that I recognize the virtue of courtesy toward our fellow researchers, but a charge of being wrong is not an insult. We have all been wrong. I thank my correspondent who points out my errors. S/he respects my interest in accuracy. I agree wholeheartedly with these statements. When he says that we have all been wrong, I believe that he means to say that we all make errors. Who doesn't? I would point out, however, that opining that one or more items of evidence contain errors is not the same thing as saying that the conclusions drawn from "the preponderance of the evidence" is "wrong". No one can argue reasonably that the will of Benjamin Clement naming a wife Susannah and a granddaughter Susannah Hill Butterworth is not a primary source document nor that the statements made in the that will are not "accurate". Some of the other items of evidence that I cited from my supplemental application to the Jamestowne Society may be of questionable accuracy. Because some of the items are questionable does not prove that all of the items are questionable. Each item must be judged on its own merits. And because some of the items of evidence are judged to be of questionable accuracy does not prove that the conlusions reached are "wrong". I will be delighted if evidence can be presented pointing to persons other than Isaac Hill and Margaret Jenings as the parents of Susannah, wife of Benjamin Clement. I am always delighted when someone presents documentation proving that a relationship that I thought that I had establised is "wrong". I always want to "get it right". I earnestly solicit from you all any scraps of evidence that you may have that tend either to approve or to disapprove that Susannah, wife of Benjamin Clement, was Susannah Hill. Richard K. Richard K.

Posted on: Pittsylvania Co. Va Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Pittsylvania?read=227 Surname: Hammack, Hammock, Hamrick, Headrick, Hedrick ------------------------- Hi, I am David Hammack and I am looking to extend my Family Line back beyond Talifario Hammack of Pittsylvania Co, born on 12 FEB 1817 and married to Mary Headrick (b.27 NOV 1818). My line is very well documented from Talifario and Mary's Grandson, Daniel Coleman Hammack (b.9 AUG 1869), but not at all before Talifario. Additionally, I am searching (with little hope of finding) the Father of Daniel Coleman Hammack. In the Family Bible, Daniel Coleman is listed as the son of Mildred Hammack (b.2 OCT 1847). Mildred was the 6th child of Talifario and Mary, and the only documented parent of Daniel Coleman Hammack. Thanks for the help. David Hammack Lugoff, SC Link: The Family of Dallas Coleman and Elizabeth Stultz Hammack URL: <http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=hammackstultz>

(pg. 347)"...Frances Miller, B. c. 1810, Randolph Co., N.C., D. c. 1872, ws daughter of Jacob and Zilla (Fuller) Miller. She mar. c. 1828 Jesse Thorn, b. 1808, York Co., S.C., son of Hezekiah Thorne. He d. c. 1874, Craighead Co., Ark. Their children:.....(pg.348)...xii Susan Caledonia Dove Thorn, b. c. 1852, Poinsett, Ark. mar. 1st c. 1869 Charles Berryman; mar 2nd a Mr. Coleman; mar 3rd on Oct. 18, 1883 William O. Guinn...Sources: 1830 Census, York Co., S.C.; 1840 Census, Calloway Co., Ky.: 1850 Census, Poinsett Co., Ark.; 1860-1880 Census, Craighead Co., Ark.; Goodspeed's History of Craighead Co., Ark., p. 359" Note that MYA spells Berryman, but your inquiry says Ba. If you'd like a copy of the MYA pages, send me a snailmail address. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne <mrsnb@adelphia.net> To: <VAPITTSY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 12:02 AM Subject: [VAPITTSY-L] Barryman > Posted on: Pittsylvania Co. Va Queries > Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Pittsylvania?read=223 > > Surname: > ------------------------- > > If the Berryman you mention was Charles, was he married to Susan Caledonia > Dove Thorne who was born about 1852 in Poinsett, Arkansas? (Meet Your Ancestors > pg 348) > > > ==== VAPITTSY Mailing List ==== >

Posted on: Pittsylvania Co. Va Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Pittsylvania?read=225 Surname: Thacker, Allen ------------------------- Nancy Allen, daughter of Alexander Allen married Reuben Thacker. Her mother, Nancy, widow of Alexadner Allen married Randolph Thacker. I do not know how/if Reuben and Randolph were related.

Hello to all More geography questions. Does anyone have any info about Franklin Junction which I believe may be in the Tunstall area (district) of Pittsylvania. Thanks April Msajk@aol.com

James, It was a beautiful statement! Thank you for putting it down so clearly! Happy Familying Laura Irby in Newport News

In a message dated 7/1/00 10:56:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jk44@umail.umd.edu writes: << I was hoping someone else might enter the recent conversation on courtesy in our exchanges >> I will! (even though I did not see the original emails). <If I may, permit me to list a few objectives> I respect your right to voice your opinion...but... <<This is not to belittle the virtue of courtesy, but there is also virtue (perhaps even more virtue) in "getting it right." >> OK...but But ultimately, we should be equally concerned for the quality of our work. WE SHOULD?..careful please! Your opinion is just one of many...I disagree with you. It is a rare occurence to find anyone who is NOT concerned with the quality and accuracy of their ancestral information. We SHARE what we have and we do our own verifying ( or not) for accuracy. The importance of one virtue over any others is a personal choice. Courtesy is high on my list! Being condescending to others is not..just my opinion. Debbie

Posted on: Pittsylvania Co. Va Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Pittsylvania?read=224 Surname: Thacker, Allen ------------------------- Could it have been Reuben Thacker? He was married to a Nancy Allen widow of Alexander Allen.

Posted on: Pittsylvania Co. Va Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Va/Pittsylvania?read=223 Surname: ------------------------- If the Berryman you mention was Charles, was he married to Susan Caledonia Dove Thorne who was born about 1852 in Poinsett, Arkansas? (Meet Your Ancestors pg 348)

CONNELLY-CONNALLY CONDLEY-CONLEY ALL ANCESTORS AND LOST COUSINS OF William CONNELLY or CONDLEY from ireland > USA, 1700's his son Anderson CONDLEY.. b. 1785-1792 , VA , d. 1838 TN>..USA and his wife Catherine COBB b. 1785 VA, d. 1838 Giles Co., TN Married November 22, 1813 Halifax County, VA Any information greatly appreciated. please email me anytime-- debbie: Condley Search@aol.com Additional family information and web sites ..THANK YOU ****************************************************************************** *** WILLIAM CONDLEY or CONNELLY from Ireland >> We have no information on William -- dead end.. County Cork, Ireland >>?? Also looking for Anderson's brothers and sisters names.. Anderson CONDLEY (b.1785-1792 VA, d.1838 TN), m. 22 Nov 1813 Catherine COBB (s)--(b. 1785 Halifax Co. VA, d. 1838 Giles Co. TN)*1. Children: Robert William, Elisha Thomas, Sarah, A.D., E.D., Beverley. May have been more children..... still looking.. Archibald D. CONDLEY (CONNELLY, CONALY, CONOLY) b. 1798, VA, m. Mary Sarah Angeline PRICE in 1832, children: James Larkin, Mary C. (m. SMITH), Susan Virginia, Elizabeth Ann (m. MORRIS), John Page, Silas J., Easter A. or Esther, Clay Crittendon, Mildred W., and Lillian or Lidia **not certain if this is Anderson's brother, nephew, or some other family connection. *** Robert William CONDLEY (b. 1810-1824 TN, d. 1910 AR) married Susan Jane WARREN (b. 1827 Giles CO. TN, d. 1910 Pope Co. AR)*2. Children: Stephen M. (m. Molly HOLLOWAY), Robert Mc Fadden, William Drury, Jane (m. COBB), Maggie (m. John W. MORROW), Elizabeth Catherine "Lizzie" (m. Amos "A.B." HOLLOWAY) John, Max or Mark, Bill Jr. Stephen Madison CONDLEY (b. 1855 AR d. 19 Nov 1937 OR) married Mary Jayne "Mollie" HOLLOWAY (b. 14 Feb 1858 AR d. 23 Mar 1943 OR) m. 1881 Pope Co. AR. Children: William Anderson Condley, Rose Evelyn Condley, Virginia Mae Condley William Anderson CONDLEY (b. 1881 AR, m. 14 Jul 1917 MO, d. 1957 OK) married Zella Myrtle Richardson CONDLEY (b. 20 Mar 1894 d. 18 Oct 1971, CA). m. 14 Jul 1917- Joplin, MO. Children: Boyd (d.1965), Floyd, Virginia Mae, Mary. Rose Evelyn CONDLEY (b. 23 Dec 1883 AR, d. Mar 26, 1974 OR) married Charles Carlton BANDY (b. 12 Dec 1873 in Monroe Co. MS d. 2 Apr 1949). Virginia Mae CONDLEY (b. 31 Aug 1890 d. 19__? - Los Angeles, CA) m. 1908- Cecil VANDEGRIFT( d. 1962 CA ).. COBB/WARREN Robert COBB, (b. 1750 Halifax, VA d. 1822 Halifax, VA). m. Catherine LNU (parents of Catherine COBB *1) John J. WARREN (b. 1808 Williamson CO. TN, d. 1834 Pulaski, TN) married Sarah Cobb in 1824. Sarah b. 24 Jan 1809. (parents of Susan Jane WARREN *2) BANDY Parents of Charles C. BANDY were Samuel A. BANDY and Delilah BLACK (MS). Siblings of Charles C. BANDY: James, William, Rosie, Lema, Harry, Susan, Lulu, Sarah, Gabe, Joseph, Mary) HARRELL-HARREL-HOLLOWAY-RICHARDSON Matilda CARTER (1800's..TN) and Richard HARRELL (1800's TN). children: Billie Richard, Thomas, Willie, Ida Lee. Thomas died in his 30's. George Allen RICHARDSON (b. 2 Dec 1857, d. 1927).. was born in Missouri.. and Ida Lee HARRELL (b. 31 Aug 1867 TN, d. 8 Jul 1946 OK) children: Zella Myrtle, Maggie. They lived in IL-MO-AR-OK, and both died in Heavener, OK. The RICHARDSON family may have had a plantation in TN. Elizabeth Catherine "Lizzie" CONDLEY (b. 1871, d. 1922-1931 OK) and Amos HOLLOWAY (b. Feb 1864 TN). m. 11 Jun 1886. children: Nettie Jane (b. 1888 ARK, m. JOHNSON), Walter Stephen (b. 7 Jun 1894), Harry Homer (b. 1899, d. 1986 CA), Rosie (b. 1905. m. KESTER, d. 1982), Lylian (b. 1908), Andrew "Drew" (b. 1903 ARK, m. Belle CARTER, d. 1985 CA). 1 child: Gladys ? Please visit our CONDLEY Web Sites anytime.. <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/GlockerCondley/WebIndexPage.html">Condle y Family Site #1</A> http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/GlockerCondley/WebIndexPage.html <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/f/a/m/Debra-K-Walker/index.html">Co ndley FamilyTreemaker Site by Debbie #2</A> http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/f/a/m/Debra-K-Walker/index.html <A HREF="http://www.starkeeper.net">Condley-Maness-Bolivar... Starkeeper's Genealogy #3</A> http://www.starkeeper.net <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/Im2kwik2000/myhomepage/heritage.html">Condley -Bandy-Williams-Collins-Lange #4</A> http://www.hometown.aol.com/Im2kwik2000/myhomepage/heritage.html <A HREF="http://www.hometown.aol.com/dkwmsg/DEBINDEX.html">CONDLEY FAMILY GENEALOGY - MAIN INDEX-- >>CLICK HERE>></A> http://www.hometown.aol.com/dkwmsg/DEBINDEX.HTML SURNAMES: CONDLEY, CONLEY, CONALY, CONOLY, CONLEE, CONNELLY, CONNALLY, BANDY, BECK, CARTER, CHURCHMAN, COBB, COBBS, GLOCKER, GUTHRIE, HARREL, HARRELL, HALLOWAY, HOLLOWAY, LANGE, LOGAN, MANESS, MARTIN, MEREDITH, MORRIS, MORROW, PHIPPS, PRICE, REYNOLDS, RICHARDSON, SMITH, TUNE, VANDERGRIFF, VANDEGRIFT, WALKER, WARREN, WHITE, WILLIAMS, 1700's..-present. County Cork- Ireland > Halifax VA or NC> Giles TN>TX> MO>KY>AR>OK>UT>CO>CA>OR- USA

Hello, I'm working on the following lines in Pittslvania Co., VA. I would be happy to exchange information. Thanks. Daryl Bruner LYRAD22@aol.com BAYS, John 1736-1794 BINGHAM, Edmond 1774-1852

Thanks for a well thought out letter, I would only add, I am absolutely amazed that so many people asking for help, do not respond with a thank you, or and acknowledgement. margie brown

James, I agree 100% with your views. I have a couple of ancestors that are impossible to research because so much erroneous info has been written and gotten into libraries and books. Now when people send me this info and I tell them it is wrong, their feelings are hurt. I always appreciate it when I am informed that my info is not corrrect. Elmer Compton Sarasota, FL

Thanks, Mr. Klumpp. I couldn't have said it better myself. Richard K.

James, Well said!! Cindy mheaden@kimbanet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "James F. Klumpp" <jk44@umail.umd.edu> To: <VAPITTSY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 7:38 AM Subject: [VAPITTSY-L] Re: Courtesy and Accuracy I was hoping someone else might enter the recent conversation on courtesy in our exchanges, upholding the importance of accuracy. But, a bit of time has passed, and I suspect I should do so. This is not to belittle the virtue of courtesy, but there is also virtue (perhaps even more virtue) in "getting it right." I understand there are some working in family history for whom quantity is the key - the more relatives the better. But ultimately, we should be equally concerned for the quality of our work. If I may, permit me to list a few objectives: - Identify the faith you have in claims and information you provide. Is a "fact" documented? a hunch? a theory? an inference?, possible? probable? most likely? Such words communicate real information that is an essential part of using that information. - Respect the faith of others. You can disagree and have more faith than others have in the same information, but if you associate their name with the material, respect the faith that they have. I bristle when I see my "theories" reported as "facts" with my name attached. When you identify a source for your information you show respect for someone else's work. Extend that respect to their judgement about the accuracy of what they report. - Don't believe everything you read in books. We all appreciate Maud Clements and what she left us. It is invaluable and important. We do not disrespect her when we point out she has erred. In fact, we express respect for her desire to get it right. We have information available to us she did not. We ought to find errs in claims made with the information she had available, or what's the benefit of more information. We disrespect her far more when we repeat her material without recognizing the error. - Explain the evidence you have for your claims. Does it come from county records? From family? From a Bible? This respects the right of others to draw their own conclusions about information. Especially today, there is a very real cost to simply repeating misinformation. I will list two: First, as any of us who are using the internet know, a search engine attempt results in a blizzard of hits that are totally unhelpful because they repeat wrong information. We have to sort through the blizzard to find the morsel of information that we did not have. The same thing can be said for the gedcoms now available from free and commercial houses. They may provide us clues, but finding the wheat in the unweeded is often difficult. The more misinformation is repeated, the less efficient our research becomes. Second, people who do respect the truth become more reluctant to share as they discover themselves misrepresented with supposition repeated as fact. Together we make progress as we turn hunches into suppositions into theories into probabilities into documented facts. That process is easier to advance together. So as we become afraid to send information, our progress is impaired. I repeat that I recognize the virtue of courtesy toward our fellow researchers, but a charge of being wrong is not an insult. We have all been wrong. I thank my correspondent who points out my errors. S/he respects my interest in accuracy. I have named no names here, and no one need take personal offense. None intended. I simply want to make certain that our reminder of the virtue of courtesy is matched by a reminder of the virtue of respecting truth. Sorry to be preachy, but it seems a necessary sermon. In the best of all possible worlds, we would not hesitate to send forth things that we have found, but would be sensitive to whether they are right or wrong. ---------------------- James F. Klumpp jk44@umail.umd.edu Voice: 301-405-6520 FAX: 301-314-9471 HomePage: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~jklumpp/home.htm ==== VAPITTSY Mailing List ==== Find tons of Pitsylvania County info at the Pittsylvania County VAGenWeb Project! http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapittsy/