In a message dated 10/17/2005 9:16:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, genbug@olypen.com writes: Hi, I was comparing your information with my sketchy info and found I did not have all these children for Samuel and Nancy. Were they all born in Patrick County? I have the middle initial of Samuel HANDY as "A". ???? I also have Sally HELMS as the mother of Nancy WILLIAMS. The middle name of William P. ORANDER is Pleasant. Many of them spelled it ORRENDER and several other variations. Thanks and good luck. Maxine Thanks Maxine---We appreciate your help. Yes we have that all of these children were born in Patrick County. Do you have any additional dates like death dates or actual birth dates for any of these. We do know that Steptoe E. Handy is buried in the Conner, Handy, Fain, Light Cemetery there in Patrick County. Could not locate graves for any of the otheres. Would love to have any additional information you have on any of them. Thanks, Carlisle