George W. & Frances "Fannie" Penn Fulcher were my g-g-g-g grandparents also (via their son Edmond Sr. and then his daughter Elizabeth), but I've done no research on the Penns thusfar. However, I recently purchased the Pedigos' History of Patrick & Henry Counties and they devote about 6 pages to the Penns. So now I'm really confused.... :) From this book: "The first to come to this state was Moses Penn who settled in Caroline County. His wife was Catherine Taylor, and they were the parents of the following children: Frances, George, Phillip, Gabriel, Abram, William, and Moses. Frances Penn married a Rucker and spent her life in Patrick County. No children survived. Gabriel Penn was a soldier in the Revolutionary War, and was promoted to Colonel of the Amherst Militia..." No other Frances is mentioned in these six pages, although the Gabriel name gets passed along a few times. (Abram married Ruth Stovall and had a son Gabriel, but no daughter Frances.) So which of the other siblings does our Fannie belong to? And also, for those of you who may have had this book for sometime, how accurate have you found it to be? JohnTaylor [email protected]

It is my understanding that "our" Frances "Fanny" Penn is the daughter of Philip Penn, who married Martha Crutcher. Philip Penn was the son of George Penn and Ann Fleming. Moses Penn was George Penn's brother. I guess the rest followed Moses (like the Biblical leader!) out to the promised land of Patrick Co. Both the Penns AND the Fulchers had a bad habit of continually repeating names, like George, for instance, and thus causing alot of confusion for later researchers. My husband is a descendent of George and Fanny Fulcher through their son Hardin by way of his son, Madison P. Fulcher. For a long time, we didn't know for sure WHICH of the Fulcher brothers fathered Madison, because Philip Fulcher and Hardin BOTH had illegitimate children with the same woman. Recently, however, we found a copy of Madison Fulcher's marriage certificate, which names Hardin as his father. Madison married Virginia Ann Lester Shelor, the widow of George Taylor Shelor who died in the Civil War. Madison's son was David Elbert Fulcher of Floyd Co. and his son, Paul Madison Fulcher, Sr. was my husband's grandfather. My husband's father was Paul Madison Fulcher Jr. and my husband is Clay Madison Fulcher (born and raised in Radford, VA) Anyway, I'd love to compare notes on the Fulcher family! Do you have a solid lead on George Fulcher's father? We have the name "John Fulcher" but do not have any documentation for this. Also, we would like to find out how the Virginia Fulchers hook back to the first Fulcher in America, Capt. Thomas Fulcher. The Fulcher clan in North Carolina is somehow related to the Virginia bunch and have documented their line back to Thomas Fulcher. There is a missing link somewhere in there, but we all feel sure the two families are related. Glad to talk to another "cousin!" MizzKat ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Taylor Martin Jr." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRIC] Fw: Penn family George W. & Frances "Fannie" Penn Fulcher were my g-g-g-g grandparents also (via their son Edmond Sr. and then his daughter Elizabeth), but I've done no research on the Penns thusfar. However, I recently purchased the Pedigos' History of Patrick & Henry Counties and they devote about 6 pages to the Penns. So now I'm really confused.... :) From this book: "The first to come to this state was Moses Penn who settled in Caroline County. His wife was Catherine Taylor, and they were the parents of the following children: Frances, George, Phillip, Gabriel, Abram, William, and Moses. Frances Penn married a Rucker and spent her life in Patrick County. No children survived. Gabriel Penn was a soldier in the Revolutionary War, and was promoted to Colonel of the Amherst Militia..." No other Frances is mentioned in these six pages, although the Gabriel name gets passed along a few times. (Abram married Ruth Stovall and had a son Gabriel, but no daughter Frances.) So which of the other siblings does our Fannie belong to? And also, for those of you who may have had this book for sometime, how accurate have you found it to be? JohnTaylor [email protected] ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator Barb Stanley [email protected] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/05

By the way, do you happen to know where any of the Fulchers are buried in Patrick Co.? MizzKat ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Taylor Martin Jr." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRIC] Fw: Penn family George W. & Frances "Fannie" Penn Fulcher were my g-g-g-g grandparents also (via their son Edmond Sr. and then his daughter Elizabeth), but I've done no research on the Penns thusfar. However, I recently purchased the Pedigos' History of Patrick & Henry Counties and they devote about 6 pages to the Penns. So now I'm really confused.... :) From this book: "The first to come to this state was Moses Penn who settled in Caroline County. His wife was Catherine Taylor, and they were the parents of the following children: Frances, George, Phillip, Gabriel, Abram, William, and Moses. Frances Penn married a Rucker and spent her life in Patrick County. No children survived. Gabriel Penn was a soldier in the Revolutionary War, and was promoted to Colonel of the Amherst Militia..." No other Frances is mentioned in these six pages, although the Gabriel name gets passed along a few times. (Abram married Ruth Stovall and had a son Gabriel, but no daughter Frances.) So which of the other siblings does our Fannie belong to? And also, for those of you who may have had this book for sometime, how accurate have you found it to be? JohnTaylor [email protected] ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator Barb Stanley [email protected] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/05

A question about Edmond Fulcher Sr. and his wife, Nancy Nowlen: the records I received from a cousin showed Edmond's date of death to be Nov. 6, 1874. The interesting thing, however, is that these records showed the same date for the death of Nancy! Is this a misprint or did they both die on the same day?? Kat ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Taylor Martin Jr." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRIC] Fw: Penn family George W. & Frances "Fannie" Penn Fulcher were my g-g-g-g grandparents also (via their son Edmond Sr. and then his daughter Elizabeth), but I've done no research on the Penns thusfar. However, I recently purchased the Pedigos' History of Patrick & Henry Counties and they devote about 6 pages to the Penns. So now I'm really confused.... :) From this book: "The first to come to this state was Moses Penn who settled in Caroline County. His wife was Catherine Taylor, and they were the parents of the following children: Frances, George, Phillip, Gabriel, Abram, William, and Moses. Frances Penn married a Rucker and spent her life in Patrick County. No children survived. Gabriel Penn was a soldier in the Revolutionary War, and was promoted to Colonel of the Amherst Militia..." No other Frances is mentioned in these six pages, although the Gabriel name gets passed along a few times. (Abram married Ruth Stovall and had a son Gabriel, but no daughter Frances.) So which of the other siblings does our Fannie belong to? And also, for those of you who may have had this book for sometime, how accurate have you found it to be? JohnTaylor [email protected] ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator Barb Stanley [email protected] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/05