Agreed! Eunice, you are such a valuable asset for us all! If not for your work, we would all still be mostly, in the dark! I'm still looking at ZARVON's post and trying to decipher these Martins and looking to see if we all connect somewhere...I suppose back at Isaac and Fillis/Phyllis? or maybe further back? Deb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com