Do you know anything about Sobrina Blackard (Frashure) that married George W. Fulcher (s/o Philip Fulcher) in Patrick Co. MizzKat ----- Original Message ----- From: "wilmapadgett1919" <wilmapadgett1919@comcast.net> To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie Creed Harris My book is entitled "Early Virginia Settlers, Blackard, DeHart, Hubbard, Hurst, Lawson, Shelor, Southern, Thompson, Turner." There are 77 pages in my book that deal directly with DeHarts. Remember DeHarts married Shelors, Blackards, Hubbards and Lawsons. Gabriel P. DeHart is my line,(Aaron.Simon.Elias Simonszen>Simon Aertszen). This book is hardback, 600 pages with pictures and stories. It was published in 2001 by Gateway Press here in Baltimore and a copy is in the Library of Congress. I am not supposed to be selling on e-mail, but how else can we learn directly about what we need for our research. If you need a price and address then address me direct. Thanks for your interest wilmapadgett1@comcast.net Wilma Lawson Padgett 2nd great granddaughter of Gabriel P. DeHart & Charity Hannah Hubbard 1st great granddaughter of Susannah Malinda DeHart and William Blackard Granddaughter of Susannah A. Blackard & William Shelor ----- Original Message ----- From: "DANIEL JENKINS" <dmjenkins110@verizon.net> To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie Creed Harris > Wilma, tell me more about your DeHart book. I must have been sleeping when > you came out with it. > > Danny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "wilmapadgett1919" <wilmapadgett1919@comcast.net> > To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie > Creed Harris > > > > Leon, I am so happy for you. Yes the YDNA is a good tool. I am sorry > > about > > the death of your mother. I just found out the other day, else you would > > have received a card. I will write you as much as I can about my DeHarts. > > > > Did you buy my book. If so you have the picture of Susan Malinda DeHart > > and > > you have the background of the DeHarts. My line is Aaron DeHart who > > married > > Malinda Ellender Dennis. Elijah was the first to move from Amherst Co., VA > > to the Charity section of Patrick Co., VA. All of that family was in > > Patrick Co., VA by 1799. Aaron died between September 1793 and April > > 1795.The Charity section includes all of that part of Patrick County north > > of the Smith River and east of Widgeon Creek to the Floyd and Franklin > > County lines. James was born in 1765. Elijah born in 1776, Gabriel P. > > Dehart (mine) born 1780, died 1870, Mary and Susannah. I am sure you will > > check out my book. > > > > I am in the midst of doing a Supplement as asked for by the Stuart > > Library. > > Do you want to keep it a secret about Charlied Creed's DeHart father, or > > can > > I add that in my book. My Mom's great grandmother was Susan Malinda > > DeHart. > > If I find any pictures, I will send them to you. > > > > Wilma > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Cleonharris@aol.com> > > To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:36 PM > > Subject: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie Creed > > Harris > > > > > >> After decades of effort that many of you shared in, I have at last found > > the > >> surname of the father of my paternal grandfather, Charlie Creed Harris, > > who > >> was born out of wedlock to Elizabeth Harris on 12 July 1878. Yesterday I > >> learned that my Y chromosome is a close match with that of a man named > > DeHart who > >> lives in Arizona. The Y chromosome is handed down only from father to > > son, > >> just as the surname traditionally is. Therefore if we follow our male > > ancestors > >> back far enough, Mr. DeHart and I had the same male ancestor who was > >> probably named DeHart. Our match is close enough that there is a 97% > > probability > >> that our shared ancestor lived within the past 400 years. > >> > >> Mr. DeHart traces his ancestors back to Simon Aertszen DeHart, born in > >> Holland in 1643, who came to America before 1676. All the Patrick County > > DeHarts > >> also descend from Simon Aertszen, but Mr. DeHart’s line and the Patrick > > County > >> DeHarts descend from two different sons of Simon Aertszen. > >> > >> There were 55 male DeHarts in Patrick and Floyd counties between ages 14 > > and > >> 72 in 1877, and I am trying to narrow the list of possible great > >> grandfathers. Age is of course an important factor, but I am guessing > >> that > > my great > >> grandfather DeHart also lived in the Vesta-Mountain View area near the > > family of > >> Elizabeth Harris. Several people have generously provided photographs of > >> DeHarts from that time and area, and some of them show a striking > > resemblance to > >> my grandfather. If anyone knows of other such photos of DeHarts I would > > like > >> to know where I can have a look at them. > >> > >> I would also like to hear of any family stories possibly linking a DeHart > >> with Elizabeth Harris or other members of the family of Greenville and > > Rhoda > >> Davis Harris. > >> > >> In addition I am wondering if there are any male DeHarts from Patrick > > County > >> who are thinking about having their DNA tested. I would be glad to > >> assist > >> any who are considering it. As you can see, it is an extremely effective > >> genealogical tool. > >> > >> Finally, thanks to all of you who over the years have looked up documents > >> and provided ideas and encouragement. > >> > >> Charles Leon Harris (almost a DeHart) > >> > >> > >> ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > >> Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 > >> http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > > Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Historical Society > http://www.patcovahistory.org/ > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.13.2/170 - Release Date: 11/15/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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My book is entitled "Early Virginia Settlers, Blackard, DeHart, Hubbard, Hurst, Lawson, Shelor, Southern, Thompson, Turner." There are 77 pages in my book that deal directly with DeHarts. Remember DeHarts married Shelors, Blackards, Hubbards and Lawsons. Gabriel P. DeHart is my line,(Aaron.Simon.Elias Simonszen>Simon Aertszen). This book is hardback, 600 pages with pictures and stories. It was published in 2001 by Gateway Press here in Baltimore and a copy is in the Library of Congress. I am not supposed to be selling on e-mail, but how else can we learn directly about what we need for our research. If you need a price and address then address me direct. Thanks for your interest wilmapadgett1@comcast.net Wilma Lawson Padgett 2nd great granddaughter of Gabriel P. DeHart & Charity Hannah Hubbard 1st great granddaughter of Susannah Malinda DeHart and William Blackard Granddaughter of Susannah A. Blackard & William Shelor ----- Original Message ----- From: "DANIEL JENKINS" <dmjenkins110@verizon.net> To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie Creed Harris > Wilma, tell me more about your DeHart book. I must have been sleeping when > you came out with it. > > Danny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "wilmapadgett1919" <wilmapadgett1919@comcast.net> > To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie > Creed Harris > > > > Leon, I am so happy for you. Yes the YDNA is a good tool. I am sorry > > about > > the death of your mother. I just found out the other day, else you would > > have received a card. I will write you as much as I can about my DeHarts. > > > > Did you buy my book. If so you have the picture of Susan Malinda DeHart > > and > > you have the background of the DeHarts. My line is Aaron DeHart who > > married > > Malinda Ellender Dennis. Elijah was the first to move from Amherst Co., VA > > to the Charity section of Patrick Co., VA. All of that family was in > > Patrick Co., VA by 1799. Aaron died between September 1793 and April > > 1795.The Charity section includes all of that part of Patrick County north > > of the Smith River and east of Widgeon Creek to the Floyd and Franklin > > County lines. James was born in 1765. Elijah born in 1776, Gabriel P. > > Dehart (mine) born 1780, died 1870, Mary and Susannah. I am sure you will > > check out my book. > > > > I am in the midst of doing a Supplement as asked for by the Stuart > > Library. > > Do you want to keep it a secret about Charlied Creed's DeHart father, or > > can > > I add that in my book. My Mom's great grandmother was Susan Malinda > > DeHart. > > If I find any pictures, I will send them to you. > > > > Wilma > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Cleonharris@aol.com> > > To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:36 PM > > Subject: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie Creed > > Harris > > > > > >> After decades of effort that many of you shared in, I have at last found > > the > >> surname of the father of my paternal grandfather, Charlie Creed Harris, > > who > >> was born out of wedlock to Elizabeth Harris on 12 July 1878. Yesterday I > >> learned that my Y chromosome is a close match with that of a man named > > DeHart who > >> lives in Arizona. The Y chromosome is handed down only from father to > > son, > >> just as the surname traditionally is. Therefore if we follow our male > > ancestors > >> back far enough, Mr. DeHart and I had the same male ancestor who was > >> probably named DeHart. Our match is close enough that there is a 97% > > probability > >> that our shared ancestor lived within the past 400 years. > >> > >> Mr. DeHart traces his ancestors back to Simon Aertszen DeHart, born in > >> Holland in 1643, who came to America before 1676. All the Patrick County > > DeHarts > >> also descend from Simon Aertszen, but Mr. DeHart’s line and the Patrick > > County > >> DeHarts descend from two different sons of Simon Aertszen. > >> > >> There were 55 male DeHarts in Patrick and Floyd counties between ages 14 > > and > >> 72 in 1877, and I am trying to narrow the list of possible great > >> grandfathers. Age is of course an important factor, but I am guessing > >> that > > my great > >> grandfather DeHart also lived in the Vesta-Mountain View area near the > > family of > >> Elizabeth Harris. Several people have generously provided photographs of > >> DeHarts from that time and area, and some of them show a striking > > resemblance to > >> my grandfather. If anyone knows of other such photos of DeHarts I would > > like > >> to know where I can have a look at them. > >> > >> I would also like to hear of any family stories possibly linking a DeHart > >> with Elizabeth Harris or other members of the family of Greenville and > > Rhoda > >> Davis Harris. > >> > >> In addition I am wondering if there are any male DeHarts from Patrick > > County > >> who are thinking about having their DNA tested. I would be glad to > >> assist > >> any who are considering it. As you can see, it is an extremely effective > >> genealogical tool. > >> > >> Finally, thanks to all of you who over the years have looked up documents > >> and provided ideas and encouragement. > >> > >> Charles Leon Harris (almost a DeHart) > >> > >> > >> ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > >> Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 > >> http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > > Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Historical Society > http://www.patcovahistory.org/ > >

I agree wholeheartedly with you. If I could just locate my great, great grandfather I would be so happy and that is my focus until I get too old to do this anymore. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cleonharris@aol.com> To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie Creed Harris > As I have told Wilma separately, I don't think any harm can come from > revealing the secret of my grandfather's DeHart father at long last. I'm sure my > late father, and probably my grandfather, would feel more connected if they > knew of this additional family. > Leon > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator > Barb Stanley > barbstanley@cox.net > >

Leon, Congratulations on your find. Yes, DNA is a wonderful tool in locating those long lost ancestors. I know that certain things weren't talked about in past generations and it really makes it hard on those of us who are trying to trace our ancestors. I have an aunt who was a product of rape and only three people could identify the father of my aunt. Her mother (my grandmother), her grandfather (my gr. grandfather) and the relative who assaulted my grandmother. We will never know who this relative was. Pat C. Johns in Va.

Wilma, tell me more about your DeHart book. I must have been sleeping when you came out with it. Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: "wilmapadgett1919" <wilmapadgett1919@comcast.net> To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie Creed Harris > Leon, I am so happy for you. Yes the YDNA is a good tool. I am sorry > about > the death of your mother. I just found out the other day, else you would > have received a card. I will write you as much as I can about my DeHarts. > > Did you buy my book. If so you have the picture of Susan Malinda DeHart > and > you have the background of the DeHarts. My line is Aaron DeHart who > married > Malinda Ellender Dennis. Elijah was the first to move from Amherst Co., VA > to the Charity section of Patrick Co., VA. All of that family was in > Patrick Co., VA by 1799. Aaron died between September 1793 and April > 1795.The Charity section includes all of that part of Patrick County north > of the Smith River and east of Widgeon Creek to the Floyd and Franklin > County lines. James was born in 1765. Elijah born in 1776, Gabriel P. > Dehart (mine) born 1780, died 1870, Mary and Susannah. I am sure you will > check out my book. > > I am in the midst of doing a Supplement as asked for by the Stuart > Library. > Do you want to keep it a secret about Charlied Creed's DeHart father, or > can > I add that in my book. My Mom's great grandmother was Susan Malinda > DeHart. > If I find any pictures, I will send them to you. > > Wilma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Cleonharris@aol.com> > To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:36 PM > Subject: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie Creed > Harris > > >> After decades of effort that many of you shared in, I have at last found > the >> surname of the father of my paternal grandfather, Charlie Creed Harris, > who >> was born out of wedlock to Elizabeth Harris on 12 July 1878. Yesterday I >> learned that my Y chromosome is a close match with that of a man named > DeHart who >> lives in Arizona. The Y chromosome is handed down only from father to > son, >> just as the surname traditionally is. Therefore if we follow our male > ancestors >> back far enough, Mr. DeHart and I had the same male ancestor who was >> probably named DeHart. Our match is close enough that there is a 97% > probability >> that our shared ancestor lived within the past 400 years. >> >> Mr. DeHart traces his ancestors back to Simon Aertszen DeHart, born in >> Holland in 1643, who came to America before 1676. All the Patrick County > DeHarts >> also descend from Simon Aertszen, but Mr. DeHart’s line and the Patrick > County >> DeHarts descend from two different sons of Simon Aertszen. >> >> There were 55 male DeHarts in Patrick and Floyd counties between ages 14 > and >> 72 in 1877, and I am trying to narrow the list of possible great >> grandfathers. Age is of course an important factor, but I am guessing >> that > my great >> grandfather DeHart also lived in the Vesta-Mountain View area near the > family of >> Elizabeth Harris. Several people have generously provided photographs of >> DeHarts from that time and area, and some of them show a striking > resemblance to >> my grandfather. If anyone knows of other such photos of DeHarts I would > like >> to know where I can have a look at them. >> >> I would also like to hear of any family stories possibly linking a DeHart >> with Elizabeth Harris or other members of the family of Greenville and > Rhoda >> Davis Harris. >> >> In addition I am wondering if there are any male DeHarts from Patrick > County >> who are thinking about having their DNA tested. I would be glad to >> assist >> any who are considering it. As you can see, it is an extremely effective >> genealogical tool. >> >> Finally, thanks to all of you who over the years have looked up documents >> and provided ideas and encouragement. >> >> Charles Leon Harris (almost a DeHart) >> >> >> ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== >> Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 >> http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm >> >> > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ >

As I have told Wilma separately, I don't think any harm can come from revealing the secret of my grandfather's DeHart father at long last. I'm sure my late father, and probably my grandfather, would feel more connected if they knew of this additional family. Leon

Leon, I am so happy for you. Yes the YDNA is a good tool. I am sorry about the death of your mother. I just found out the other day, else you would have received a card. I will write you as much as I can about my DeHarts. Did you buy my book. If so you have the picture of Susan Malinda DeHart and you have the background of the DeHarts. My line is Aaron DeHart who married Malinda Ellender Dennis. Elijah was the first to move from Amherst Co., VA to the Charity section of Patrick Co., VA. All of that family was in Patrick Co., VA by 1799. Aaron died between September 1793 and April 1795.The Charity section includes all of that part of Patrick County north of the Smith River and east of Widgeon Creek to the Floyd and Franklin County lines. James was born in 1765. Elijah born in 1776, Gabriel P. Dehart (mine) born 1780, died 1870, Mary and Susannah. I am sure you will check out my book. I am in the midst of doing a Supplement as asked for by the Stuart Library. Do you want to keep it a secret about Charlied Creed's DeHart father, or can I add that in my book. My Mom's great grandmother was Susan Malinda DeHart. If I find any pictures, I will send them to you. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cleonharris@aol.com> To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:36 PM Subject: [VAPATRICK] DNA results: a DeHart was the father of Charlie Creed Harris > After decades of effort that many of you shared in, I have at last found the > surname of the father of my paternal grandfather, Charlie Creed Harris, who > was born out of wedlock to Elizabeth Harris on 12 July 1878. Yesterday I > learned that my Y chromosome is a close match with that of a man named DeHart who > lives in Arizona. The Y chromosome is handed down only from father to son, > just as the surname traditionally is. Therefore if we follow our male ancestors > back far enough, Mr. DeHart and I had the same male ancestor who was > probably named DeHart. Our match is close enough that there is a 97% probability > that our shared ancestor lived within the past 400 years. > > Mr. DeHart traces his ancestors back to Simon Aertszen DeHart, born in > Holland in 1643, who came to America before 1676. All the Patrick County DeHarts > also descend from Simon Aertszen, but Mr. DeHart’s line and the Patrick County > DeHarts descend from two different sons of Simon Aertszen. > > There were 55 male DeHarts in Patrick and Floyd counties between ages 14 and > 72 in 1877, and I am trying to narrow the list of possible great > grandfathers. Age is of course an important factor, but I am guessing that my great > grandfather DeHart also lived in the Vesta-Mountain View area near the family of > Elizabeth Harris. Several people have generously provided photographs of > DeHarts from that time and area, and some of them show a striking resemblance to > my grandfather. If anyone knows of other such photos of DeHarts I would like > to know where I can have a look at them. > > I would also like to hear of any family stories possibly linking a DeHart > with Elizabeth Harris or other members of the family of Greenville and Rhoda > Davis Harris. > > In addition I am wondering if there are any male DeHarts from Patrick County > who are thinking about having their DNA tested. I would be glad to assist > any who are considering it. As you can see, it is an extremely effective > genealogical tool. > > Finally, thanks to all of you who over the years have looked up documents > and provided ideas and encouragement. > > Charles Leon Harris (almost a DeHart) > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 > http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm > >

After decades of effort that many of you shared in, I have at last found the surname of the father of my paternal grandfather, Charlie Creed Harris, who was born out of wedlock to Elizabeth Harris on 12 July 1878. Yesterday I learned that my Y chromosome is a close match with that of a man named DeHart who lives in Arizona. The Y chromosome is handed down only from father to son, just as the surname traditionally is. Therefore if we follow our male ancestors back far enough, Mr. DeHart and I had the same male ancestor who was probably named DeHart. Our match is close enough that there is a 97% probability that our shared ancestor lived within the past 400 years. Mr. DeHart traces his ancestors back to Simon Aertszen DeHart, born in Holland in 1643, who came to America before 1676. All the Patrick County DeHarts also descend from Simon Aertszen, but Mr. DeHart’s line and the Patrick County DeHarts descend from two different sons of Simon Aertszen. There were 55 male DeHarts in Patrick and Floyd counties between ages 14 and 72 in 1877, and I am trying to narrow the list of possible great grandfathers. Age is of course an important factor, but I am guessing that my great grandfather DeHart also lived in the Vesta-Mountain View area near the family of Elizabeth Harris. Several people have generously provided photographs of DeHarts from that time and area, and some of them show a striking resemblance to my grandfather. If anyone knows of other such photos of DeHarts I would like to know where I can have a look at them. I would also like to hear of any family stories possibly linking a DeHart with Elizabeth Harris or other members of the family of Greenville and Rhoda Davis Harris. In addition I am wondering if there are any male DeHarts from Patrick County who are thinking about having their DNA tested. I would be glad to assist any who are considering it. As you can see, it is an extremely effective genealogical tool. Finally, thanks to all of you who over the years have looked up documents and provided ideas and encouragement. Charles Leon Harris (almost a DeHart)

Creed Allen was my 2nd great grandfather. He married Nancy Elizabeth Martin, she was about 5 years older than he was. My family told me that he disappeared one morning on his way to work at a sawmill in Patrick Co, VA. Nancy Elizabeth Martin Allen is buried in a cemetery near the Bouldin Presbyterian Church at what is known as the crossroads area of Patrick Co. I can send you other information I have on Creed Allen but need to get my records here in front of me. I have always felt that he went to WVA leaving his family in Patrick Co. Whether they knew he went is not known by anyone in my family but his father Preston Allen left his mother Lucy Boyd Allen and he went to WVA where he remarried twice and had other children. Lucy Boyd Allen also remarried to a John Walker and they lived in Patrick Co until John Walkers death. Then Lucy went to live with relatives in Kansas (think I am remembering this right)and she is buried out there. Let me get my information together and I will get back to you. I am interested in hearing more about Creed Allen's death as I have not been able to find any information that tells where he died. Sincerely Pat Long Roanoke, VA > From: Norma Rapini <normar@mac.com> > Date: 2005/11/17 Thu PM 12:39:53 EST > To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VAPATRICK] Creed Allen > > Can anyone help me find information on Creed Allen from Patrick County. > He was the father of Lucy, Nathan Allen. He died in a mine cave in > before Nathan was born. This was around 1866. > > > Norma / Mom Rapini > normar@mac.com > > > "Have a nice day" > On Nov 16, 2005, at 10:43 AM, mvWG wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there is, or will be, a Heritage of Henry Co. > > book? The only book I know of is the 1923 edition of History of Henry > > Co. Hope there is something else on that county. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > > Patrick County Historical Society > > http://www.patcovahistory.org/ > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator > Barb Stanley > barbstanley@cox.net > >

Do you have Ancestry.com by any chance? There are some family trees there that are not on Rootsweb that has Creed Allen. Here is some info from one of them. Also, I have some more info going back to William Allen Sr., father of Preston, but need to be on my son's computer where my Family Tree Maker info is stored. Ancestry World Tree Project: Ancestors and Allied Families of Daniel G. and Judith E. McCormick BowlingReturn to normal view Ancestors and Allied Families of Daniel G. and Judith E. McCormick Bowling Entries: 14560 Updated: 2004-11-28 00:05:05 UTC (Sun) Contact: Daniel Bowling Home Page: The Bowling Beat The information in this database has been gathered mainly from internet sources. As such, it is intended to only provide a starting point for your research. All information should be verified by you before adding to your family tree. 1 Preston Allen b: Abt 1802 + Lucy Boyd b: Abt 1806 2 Malinda Jane Allen b: Abt 1828 + George W. Martin b: Abt 1825 3 John William Martin b: 9 JUN 1850 d: 13 MAR 1930 + Sarah E. Zirkle b: 1882 d: 1950 4 Cuba Martin 4 Molinda Lillian Martin 4 George Amos Martin 4 Isaac Daniel Martin 4 Sally Reice Martin 4 Katy Mae Martin 4 Emma Martin 4 Ellen L. Martin 3 Creed J. Martin b: Abt 1852 3 George W.K. Martin b: Abt 1854 3 James Preston Martin b: Abt 1855 3 Ruben M. Martin b: 1857 2 Hugh Allen b: Abt 1832 d: 1911 2 Martha Ann Allen b: Abt 1834 + William B. Martin 2 Nathan A. Allen b: Abt 1835 d: 14 JAN 1859 2 Creed G. Allen b: Abt 1837 + Nancy Elizabeth Martin b: Abt 1833 3 Statira Ann Allen b: Abt 1857 3 Victoria E. Allen b: Abt 1860 3 Nathan W.J. Allen b: Abt 1867 3 Lucy Catherine Malinda Jane Allen b: 12 APR 1868 d: 25 JAN 1941 + Gabriel Peyton Bowling b: 19 MAR 1862 d: 1943 4 Nora Elizabeth Bowling b: 6 FEB 1883 + James Samuel David Cruise b: Abt 1879 5 Texas Cruise b: 6 MAR 1900 d: 8 MAY 1987 + William Bishop Lawson b: 22 OCT 1895 d: 6 OCT 1975 5 Peyton Okley Cruise + Alphia Martin 5 Sidney Lee Cruise + Bertha Sanders 5 Eugene Hannibal Cruise + Ida Lawson 5 Lois Vivian Cruise + Hugh A. Smithy 5 Gladys Lucy Belle Cruise + Nathaniel Renthro Smart 6 Living Smart 6 Living Smart 6 Living Smart 6 Living Smart 6 Living Smart 6 Living Smart 5 Dorothy Molene Vallen Cruise + Lorene Merriman 5 Nancy Alice Cruise + Pobert Greerly Rorrer 6 Living Rorrer 6 Living Rorrer 6 Living Rorrer 5 Bowling Allen Cruise 4 Gabriel Jefferson Bowling b: 27 APR 1886 d: 10 NOV 1977 + Noma Mae Layman b: 23 DEC 1888 d: 6 MAY 1926 5 Katherine Florence Bowling b: 22 DEC 1916 d: 27 APR 1984 5 Darst Gabriel Bowling b: 12 FEB 1919 d: 2 MAR 1937 4 Nathan Charles Bowling b: 28 OCT 1890 d: AUG 1975 + Clarice Cruise 5 Edward Bowling 5 Isaac Peyton Bowling 4 Eugene Harbour Bowling b: 23 OCT 1892 4 Mollie Vivian Bowling b: 22 SEP 1896 d: 21 MAR 1988 + Charlie E. Layman b: 17 MAY 1894 5 Charles E. Layman 5 Elaine L. Layman 5 Robert Layman 4 Clyde Peyton Bowling b: 8 JUN 1905 d: 27 SEP 1988 + Clarissa Moran b: 14 NOV 1904 d: OCT 1985 > > From: Norma Rapini <normar@mac.com> > Date: 2005/11/17 Thu PM 12:39:53 EST > To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VAPATRICK] Creed Allen > > Can anyone help me find information on Creed Allen from Patrick County. > He was the father of Lucy, Nathan Allen. He died in a mine cave in > before Nathan was born. This was around 1866. > > > Norma / Mom Rapini > normar@mac.com > > > "Have a nice day" > On Nov 16, 2005, at 10:43 AM, mvWG wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there is, or will be, a Heritage of Henry Co. > > book? The only book I know of is the 1923 edition of History of Henry > > Co. Hope there is something else on that county. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > > Patrick County Historical Society > > http://www.patcovahistory.org/ > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator > Barb Stanley > barbstanley@cox.net >

Can anyone help me find information on Creed Allen from Patrick County. He was the father of Lucy, Nathan Allen. He died in a mine cave in before Nathan was born. This was around 1866. Norma / Mom Rapini normar@mac.com "Have a nice day" On Nov 16, 2005, at 10:43 AM, mvWG wrote: > Does anyone know if there is, or will be, a Heritage of Henry Co. > book? The only book I know of is the 1923 edition of History of Henry > Co. Hope there is something else on that county. > > Thank you. > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Historical Society > http://www.patcovahistory.org/ >

I was looking for any information about the family of Jonadab Waid/Wade. He was in Henry or Patrick counties in 1790 and 1800, and the census of Rockingham Co. NC in 1820. There may be a Webb connection of some sort. Thanks. Mary

Does anyone know if there is, or will be, a Heritage of Henry Co. book? The only book I know of is the 1923 edition of History of Henry Co. Hope there is something else on that county. Thank you.

As far as I know, there are no plans to do a heritage book for Henry County. Two histories of our county were written in the 20s...one is by Judith Parks America Hill, the other by Lewis G. Pedigo is a history of both Patrick and Henry Counties. These are usually reprinted by Clearfield Publishers in Baltimore. I wish that someone would do a heritage or history book for Henry, as we definitely need a new one. Pat --- mvWG <mvwg@comcast.net> wrote: > Does anyone know if there is, or will be, a Heritage > of Henry Co. book? The only book I know of is the > 1923 edition of History of Henry Co. Hope there is > something else on that county. > > Thank you. > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Historical Society > http://www.patcovahistory.org/ > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

I am looking for any information I can find on Doshia LAWSON who died in the Roanoke area in 1993. She was married to Robert Lee Graham, Sr. and her only two children were Douglas Chandler Graham and Robert Lee Graham, Jr. (Jr. died in ORmond Beach, Florida October 19, 2005) We have a lot of information on the Graham side of the family but practically nothing on Doshia Lawson and her family. Any Help will be greatly appreciated. Carlisle Bowling

On Aug 8 1885 Nancy "Nannie" A Campbell married Charles Madison "Maddy" Shelton of Patrick Co VA. Who were her parents? Marriage records states father as J. Campbell. Nannie died before 1899, Patrick Co VA. Thanks Deb __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

After researching the Robertsons for over 25 years, I have been unable to find parents for Millie. Her father is believed to have been John Ratliff who appeared in Patrick County at the same time as David and Millie but aside from the time line, there is no proof. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mvWG" <mvwg@comcast.net> To: <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Ayers, Ratliff, Shelton, and Hubbard/Stanley > Do you have information on the family of Millie Ratliff who married David > Robertson? I have not found the name of her parents. > > Thank you. > Mary W. > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 > http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm >

Do you have information on the family of Millie Ratliff who married David Robertson? I have not found the name of her parents. Thank you. Mary W.

Robert Ayers, I have quite a bit of information on Patrick Co Va families, but I did not have any connection to Elias Ratliff & Susan Smart. I looked up some census records and marriage records and here is what I found: Patrick Co VA Marriage Record: 20 Dec 1850 Elias Ratliff & Susan Jemima Smart. There was no record of parental permission, so she must have been 18 or misstated her age. Patrick Co VA Marriage Record: 26 Jun 1822: Benjamin Ratliff, son of Ralph Ratliff and Elizabeth Stickleman. Sur.Valentine Ratliff. Benjamin and Elizabeth could possibly be Elias' parents. There are twelve Ratliff marriages in Pat. Co VA. from 1791 to 1850. If you want the rest of them. I will send them. The two following Census Records are from 1850 Wythe Co VA, 68th Dist. Fam 315: Elias Ratliff 44, Eliza 19, Lefew (male) 16, Mary 14, Giles P. 13, Martha F. 11, Susan E. 8, all born in Virginia Fam 813 Polly Smart 52, Moses 20, Susan 18, David 12, Henry 10, all born in North Carolina. The following Census Record is from 1860 Wythe Co VA 68th Dist. Fam 1292: Elias Ratliff 57, Susan 25, Washington 10, James 7, Mary 4, Virginia age not stated, all born in Virginia. I also have records on the Hubbards and Pendletons, mostly Patrick Co VA. I do not have time to search them now, but will try to get back to you later. I hope some of ths helps. Nettie ------------------------- Robert Ayers wrote: >Yes, I have quite a few ancestors from Patrick CO. VA. :) >I am new to the list and thought I would introduce myself and see who is connected. On the Ayers side I am descended from Irvin Ayers (ayres) who was born in Patrick co. around 1832 to Jane Ayres. Jane may or may not have been from South Carolina. Thats as far as any of us can get with the Ayers'. > >I am just beginning to start on the Ratliff's (Ratcliffe's) but I recently discovered I am descended from Ratliff's who moved from Patrick to Wythe Co. VA. Elias Ratliff and Susan Smart - who married in Patrick Co. in 1850. > >For the Shelton's I am descended from Azariah Shelton, son of William Shelton through Azariah and Jane Rogers Shelton's son George Franklin Shelton. George was born around 1846. He married Frances Chapman (chatman) in the late 1860s in Patrick Co. VA. She was the daughter of a Frances "Frankie" Chapman. I have lots of info on the Shelton's I am willing to share, but want to make a connection to learn more about the Chapman's. > >Finally, I don't know much about the Hubbard's/Stanley's. But I do know that a grandson of Irvin Ayres, Charlie Thomas Ayers, married Barbara Hubbard. Barbara was born 1889 and was the daughter of John Ellison Hubbard of Patrick Co. VA and Mary Burrell Stanley of Carrol Co. Mary's parents were Isom Stanley and Lucy Pendleton, lucy was from Patrick CO. VA. > >So, lots of names, but I was just wondering if I could make a connection! > >Thanks, >Robert Ayers >Pulaski, VA >--------------------------------- > > >

Nettie, The Susan Smart living in Wythe Co. is the same who married Elias Ratliff. And the Elias Ratliff you showed is the right one. I just wonder why they didn't marry in Wythe Co. and chose to go to Patrick? Was there a connection between those counties back then? Also, Elias' and Susan's children thought her last name was Surrat rather than Smart going by their marriage license information. THanks so much for looking this stuff up for me. ANYTHING is helpful and adds new connections in my mind between the families. If you can, get back with me concerning the Hubbard and Pendleton info. As of now, I know pratically NOTHING about them. WHen I first started this I meant to do one branch of my family. That was 5 years ago and I am now doing 5 surnames in depth and trying to connect all the ladies maiden names in. I never thought I'd get this much discovered. Thanks again for the information! Robert Ayers Pulaski, VA Nettie Clifton <nettie@smart.net> wrote: Robert Ayers, I have quite a bit of information on Patrick Co Va families, but I did not have any connection to Elias Ratliff & Susan Smart. I looked up some census records and marriage records and here is what I found: Patrick Co VA Marriage Record: 20 Dec 1850 Elias Ratliff & Susan Jemima Smart. There was no record of parental permission, so she must have been 18 or misstated her age. Patrick Co VA Marriage Record: 26 Jun 1822: Benjamin Ratliff, son of Ralph Ratliff and Elizabeth Stickleman. Sur.Valentine Ratliff. Benjamin and Elizabeth could possibly be Elias' parents. There are twelve Ratliff marriages in Pat. Co VA. from 1791 to 1850. If you want the rest of them. I will send them. The two following Census Records are from 1850 Wythe Co VA, 68th Dist. Fam 315: Elias Ratliff 44, Eliza 19, Lefew (male) 16, Mary 14, Giles P. 13, Martha F. 11, Susan E. 8, all born in Virginia Fam 813 Polly Smart 52, Moses 20, Susan 18, David 12, Henry 10, all born in North Carolina. The following Census Record is from 1860 Wythe Co VA 68th Dist. Fam 1292: Elias Ratliff 57, Susan 25, Washington 10, James 7, Mary 4, Virginia age not stated, all born in Virginia. I also have records on the Hubbards and Pendletons, mostly Patrick Co VA. I do not have time to search them now, but will try to get back to you later. I hope some of ths helps. Nettie ------------------------- Robert Ayers wrote: >Yes, I have quite a few ancestors from Patrick CO. VA. :) >I am new to the list and thought I would introduce myself and see who is connected. On the Ayers side I am descended from Irvin Ayers (ayres) who was born in Patrick co. around 1832 to Jane Ayres. Jane may or may not have been from South Carolina. Thats as far as any of us can get with the Ayers'. > >I am just beginning to start on the Ratliff's (Ratcliffe's) but I recently discovered I am descended from Ratliff's who moved from Patrick to Wythe Co. VA. Elias Ratliff and Susan Smart - who married in Patrick Co. in 1850. > >For the Shelton's I am descended from Azariah Shelton, son of William Shelton through Azariah and Jane Rogers Shelton's son George Franklin Shelton. George was born around 1846. He married Frances Chapman (chatman) in the late 1860s in Patrick Co. VA. She was the daughter of a Frances "Frankie" Chapman. I have lots of info on the Shelton's I am willing to share, but want to make a connection to learn more about the Chapman's. > >Finally, I don't know much about the Hubbard's/Stanley's. But I do know that a grandson of Irvin Ayres, Charlie Thomas Ayers, married Barbara Hubbard. Barbara was born 1889 and was the daughter of John Ellison Hubbard of Patrick Co. VA and Mary Burrell Stanley of Carrol Co. Mary's parents were Isom Stanley and Lucy Pendleton, lucy was from Patrick CO. VA. > >So, lots of names, but I was just wondering if I could make a connection! > >Thanks, >Robert Ayers >Pulaski, VA >--------------------------------- > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.