--- > > Hi Cynthia, Here are the names of the slaves listed as sold at auction from the estate of Nelson MORAN : 1 girl Jan; Sarahann and child; Stephen; Andrew; Mary; Suey; Jathina; Nancy; James and Emma. Jathina was sold to Adam Thomas for $2500.00. Tha sale was held 8 Aug 1863. This came from Will Book 7, p 232 in Patrick County VA. Thanks for your help and keep in touch. Terri Grote Greenville, Ohio

- >>>Barb, >>Is Nelson MORAN, father of Mary MORAN who married Edward WOOD, same as Nelson >>MORAN husband of Nancy BRAMMER? The MORANs confuse the daylights out of me! >>Ha! > >> >>Barb, many thanks for all that you do and share with the rest of us!!! >> >>Another question...who was Fannie BRAMMER, second wife of Richard "Dickey" >>WOOD? >>"History of Floyd County," p. 263. Richard "Dickey" WOOD was born in 1769 >and >>died at the top of Woods Gap in Patrick County, Virginia in 1859, aged 90 >>years. He married, first, Rachel COCKRAM, daughter of Edward COCKRAM, Sr.; >>secondly, Fannie BRAMMER, no children; thirdly, Betsey DEHART, four children; >>fourthly, Lucy VIA, six children." >> >>Edward WOOD, husband of Mary MORAN, was a son of Dickey WOOD and his first >>wife, Rachel COCKRAM/COCHRAN. Rachel and Dickey were the parents of "Alex" >>(Patrick Alexander) WOOD...he married Bethany BRAMMER...my direct line. >> >>Just trying to fill in the gaps. It's so convoluted! Ha!!! >> >>Many thanks! >>Lainie Hendrix >>El Paso, TX >> ===================================== >NELSON MORAN DID MARRY NANCY BRAMMER >SEPT. 11, 1839 IN PATRICK CO. (SOURCE: "MARRIAGES OF PATRICK CO., VA.") >BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN LISTED FOR THEM. THIS WAS THE 2ND MARRIAGE >FOR NANCY. > >IN THIS SAME BOOK NANCY'S FIRST MARRIAGE IS LISTED AS: > >SEPT. 8, 1823 - >RICHARD WOOD & NANCY (FANNIE) BRAMMER. SUR. JOHN >BRAMMER. MINISTER STEPHEN HUBBARD. >MARRIAGE RECORDED SEPT. 9, 1823 > >THIS IS GETTING REALLY COMPLICATED AND I NEED TO >GET IT ALL TOGETHER!! IF HER 1ST HUSBAND, RICHARD WOOD, >DIDN'T DIE UNTIL 1859 THEN SHE DIDN'T MARRY NELSON MORAN >IN 1839. I'LL HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND GET BACK TO YOU. I >REALLY NEED TO SEE THE MARRIAGE BONDS FOR MYSELF! IF YOU COME UP WITH >ANYTHING PLEASE LET ME KNOW. > >Barb S. > >I want to add to the MORAN, WOOD, BRAMMER confusion. According to Fannie BRAMMER's tombstone at Wood's Gap, she died 30 Aug 1830. Is there more than 1 Nancy BRAMMER? If she died in 1830, she probably did not marry Nelson MORAN in 1839. IF that happened then my family is scarier than I thought. Does any body have any information of the parents of either nancy and/or Fannie? Terri Grote

In the 1850 PCVA Census there is a Joshua T. Adams, age 21, in the Joshua Adams, age 59, household along with Elizabeth,age 62, and Jane, age 20. Is this the same Joshua Thompson Adams that married Elizabeth P. Ingram (dau of James and Elizabeth Ingram) in Franklin Co in 1850? Thanks for any help. Sherry Crawford dansher@cybrtown.com

Lanie wrote: << "History of Floyd County," p. 263. Richard "Dickey" WOOD was born in 1769 and died at the top of Woods Gap in Patrick County, Virginia in 1859, aged 90 years. He married, first, Rachel COCKRAM, daughter of Edward COCKRAM, Sr.; secondly, Fannie BRAMMER, no children; thirdly, Betsey DEHART, four children; fourthly, Lucy VIA, six children." >> Hi: Thought any descendants of Richard "Dickey/Uncle Dickey/Father Dickey" WOOD might enjoy the following. Note the difference in the DOB as stated by Pilson versus what you have. "The cemetery number in Pilson's book is # 519. Richard Wood (FATHER DICKEY), Pioneer of Wood's Gap, b. 1772, d. 1856. (According to the marker, Richard is buried in the middle, with a wife on either side, and one at the head and another at the foot.)" Gloria raglady@aol.com

Is this Martin Paul Edwards Adam the son of John Henry Adams and Martha J. Slaughter? MARTIN PAUL EDWARDS1 ADAMS was born Bef. 1907. He married CORA LILLIAN MARTIN Abt. 1919. Child of MARTIN ADAMS and CORA MARTIN is: i. CECIL ROBERT2 ADAMS, b. Jun 26, 1920, Patrick Co, Va.; m. CLARA ELLEN ADAMS, Sep 15, 1945, Patrick Co, Va.. Sherry Crawford dansher@cybrtown.com

At 02:36 AM 10/7/98 -0400, you wrote: > >Barb, >Is Nelson MORAN, father of Mary MORAN who married Edward WOOD, same as Nelson >MORAN husband of Nancy BRAMMER? The MORANs confuse the daylights out of me! >Ha! > >Barb, many thanks for all that you do and share with the rest of us!!! > >Another question...who was Fannie BRAMMER, second wife of Richard "Dickey" >WOOD? >"History of Floyd County," p. 263. Richard "Dickey" WOOD was born in 1769 and >died at the top of Woods Gap in Patrick County, Virginia in 1859, aged 90 >years. He married, first, Rachel COCKRAM, daughter of Edward COCKRAM, Sr.; >secondly, Fannie BRAMMER, no children; thirdly, Betsey DEHART, four children; >fourthly, Lucy VIA, six children." > >Edward WOOD, husband of Mary MORAN, was a son of Dickey WOOD and his first >wife, Rachel COCKRAM/COCHRAN. Rachel and Dickey were the parents of "Alex" >(Patrick Alexander) WOOD...he married Bethany BRAMMER...my direct line. > >Just trying to fill in the gaps. It's so convoluted! Ha!!! > >Many thanks! >Lainie Hendrix >El Paso, TX > ===================================== NELSON MORAN DID MARRY NANCY BRAMMER SEPT. 11, 1839 IN PATRICK CO. (SOURCE: "MARRIAGES OF PATRICK CO., VA.") BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN LISTED FOR THEM. THIS WAS THE 2ND MARRIAGE FOR NANCY. IN THIS SAME BOOK NANCY'S FIRST MARRIAGE IS LISTED AS: SEPT. 8, 1823 - RICHARD WOOD & NANCY (FANNIE) BRAMMER. SUR. JOHN BRAMMER. MINISTER STEPHEN HUBBARD. MARRIAGE RECORDED SEPT. 9, 1823 THIS IS GETTING REALLY COMPLICATED AND I NEED TO GET IT ALL TOGETHER!! IF HER 1ST HUSBAND, RICHARD WOOD, DIDN'T DIE UNTIL 1859 THEN SHE DIDN'T MARRY NELSON MORAN IN 1839. I'LL HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND GET BACK TO YOU. I REALLY NEED TO SEE THE MARRIAGE BONDS FOR MYSELF! IF YOU COME UP WITH ANYTHING PLEASE LET ME KNOW. Barb S.

Barb, The Nancy "Fanny" Brammer who married Richard Wood died in 1830. I think that one who married Edward Moran must be another person. Richard Wood "Father Dickey", Pioneer of Woods Gap, b 1769 BedfordCoVA d 12 Jan 1859 PCVA ( b 1772 d 1856 tombstone dates), son of John & Nellie Wood, m(1) 1797? Rachel Cockram b c 1775 VA d 13 Dec 1823 PCVA, dau of Edward Cockram & Mary "Polly" (Preston?) (Edwards?). 8 children: Henry, Alex, German, Peter, Edward (Ned), John Richard, Jeremiah, & Anna. Richard Wood m(2) 8 Sep 1823 PCVA Nancy (Fanny) Brammer d 30 Aug 1830, dau of John Brammer. No children. Richard Wood m (3) Elizabeth DeHart b abt 1810 d 26 Oct 1838. 4 children: Press, Jack, Dolly & Lucinda. Richard Wood m(4) Lucy Via b c1820 VA d 1851. 6 children: Frederick, Byrdine, George, Nancy, Ruth & Matilda. Richard and all four wives were buried in Cem. #519. Ref #95 - Tombstone Inscriptions of the Cemeteries of Patrick C. VA, O. E. Pilson. Nettie S. Clifton, Catonsville MD <nettie@erols.com>

If you ever get the Brammers straightened out, I'll personally buy the champaigne! At 10:20 AM 10/7/98 -0700, you wrote: >At 02:36 AM 10/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >> >>Barb, >>Is Nelson MORAN, father of Mary MORAN who married Edward WOOD, same as Nelson >>MORAN husband of Nancy BRAMMER? The MORANs confuse the daylights out of me! >>Ha! > >> >>Barb, many thanks for all that you do and share with the rest of us!!! >> >>Another question...who was Fannie BRAMMER, second wife of Richard "Dickey" >>WOOD? >>"History of Floyd County," p. 263. Richard "Dickey" WOOD was born in 1769 >and >>died at the top of Woods Gap in Patrick County, Virginia in 1859, aged 90 >>years. He married, first, Rachel COCKRAM, daughter of Edward COCKRAM, Sr.; >>secondly, Fannie BRAMMER, no children; thirdly, Betsey DEHART, four children; >>fourthly, Lucy VIA, six children." >> >>Edward WOOD, husband of Mary MORAN, was a son of Dickey WOOD and his first >>wife, Rachel COCKRAM/COCHRAN. Rachel and Dickey were the parents of "Alex" >>(Patrick Alexander) WOOD...he married Bethany BRAMMER...my direct line. >> >>Just trying to fill in the gaps. It's so convoluted! Ha!!! >> >>Many thanks! >>Lainie Hendrix >>El Paso, TX >> ===================================== >NELSON MORAN DID MARRY NANCY BRAMMER >SEPT. 11, 1839 IN PATRICK CO. (SOURCE: "MARRIAGES OF PATRICK CO., VA.") >BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN LISTED FOR THEM. THIS WAS THE 2ND MARRIAGE >FOR NANCY. > >IN THIS SAME BOOK NANCY'S FIRST MARRIAGE IS LISTED AS: > >SEPT. 8, 1823 - >RICHARD WOOD & NANCY (FANNIE) BRAMMER. SUR. JOHN >BRAMMER. MINISTER STEPHEN HUBBARD. >MARRIAGE RECORDED SEPT. 9, 1823 > >THIS IS GETTING REALLY COMPLICATED AND I NEED TO >GET IT ALL TOGETHER!! IF HER 1ST HUSBAND, RICHARD WOOD, >DIDN'T DIE UNTIL 1859 THEN SHE DIDN'T MARRY NELSON MORAN >IN 1839. I'LL HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND GET BACK TO YOU. I >REALLY NEED TO SEE THE MARRIAGE BONDS FOR MYSELF! IF YOU COME UP WITH >ANYTHING PLEASE LET ME KNOW. > >Barb S. > > > Shelby Hubbard Puckett spuckett@bgsm.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your relatives." ;^> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

To Terri: Yes, I am very interested in the names of the slaves. The Moran slaves maybe related to my great grandmother's brother, Peter Vaughn. I recently received a newspaper article,dated January 1950, about Nannie Vaughn (1859-1950) (Peter's wife)who reported that her slave master was Jim Mourning. I looked for a spelling of that name but kept coming up with "Moran". A birth record for Nannie's sister,Jathina, appeared with Nelson Moran as the owner. As a side note: Edward Wood purchased a slave January 1855 from a Lott Lee (the sale was recorded as a "deed" not a "bill of sale"). Her name was Lucy. Lucy was my 3 great grandmother and Lott Lee's wife. (both are listed as black). When Edward Wood died (Jan 1860), Lucy was listed on his inventory but was not listed on the inventory of goods sold. Lucy and Lott were both found on the 1860 Free Inhabitants Census (dated July 1860). I am not sure if Lucy was given her freedom by the Mary Wood or Lott repurchased her and then gave her freedom. I have not been able to find freedom papers for Lucy. Thanks for information. == Cynthia A. Wilson Seattle, WA _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Does anyone have info with sources on this couple? Thanks for help! MARY ELLIE3 ADAMS (JOSHUA RICHARD2, WILLIAM1) was born Feb 1886 in Patrick Co Va.. She married GEORGE WRIGHT. Sherry Crawford dansher@cybrtown.com

Does anyone have more on this couple with sources? Thanks for helping! JOHN HENRY ADAMS. He married MARTHA SLAUGHTER, daughter of MARTIN SLAUGHTER and MARY CONNER. Sherry Crawford dansher@cybrtown.com

Does anyone have anything regarding this couple with sources? Thanks for any help! JOHN ADAMS was born Abt. 1768 in Patrick Co Va., and died 1820. He married MARY HOWELL. Child of JOHN ADAMS and MARY HOWELL is: i. JOSHUA ADAMS, b. Feb 25, 1791, Halifax Co, Va,; d. Sep 3, 1865, Patrick Co Va.; m. (1) LUCINDA SHELTON; m. (2) ELIZABETH CORN, Dec 16, 1809. Sherry Crawford dansher@cybrtown.com

Does anyone know where I can rent the following newspapers on microfilm. Also what are the oldest copies available. I am interested mostly in articles on various communities and towns in Patrick County and obituaries. Enterprise - Published Weekly (every Wed.) from 1890 to 9999 in Stuart, Va. by Enterprise, Inc. Normal Review - Published Monthly from 1890 to 1uuu in Stuart, Va. by Faculty of Stuart Normal College. Stuart Enterprise - Published Weekly from 189u to 19uu in Stuart, Va. by G.O. Green. /s/ Jim Spencer

In a message dated 10/6/98 2:07:02 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bobnroa@pipeline.com writes: << Sept. 9, 1839 - Nelson Moran & Nancy Brammer Sur. Jonathan Brammer - Min. Jesse Jones M.R. Sept. 11, 1839 Cynthia - this is one of my family. Nancy Brammer was the daughter of John Brammer and Sarah Lee. The surety in this marriage, Jonathan Brammer, was her brother. >> Barb, Is Nelson MORAN, father of Mary MORAN who married Edward WOOD, same as Nelson MORAN husband of Nancy BRAMMER? The MORANs confuse the daylights out of me! Ha! Barb, many thanks for all that you do and share with the rest of us!!! Another question...who was Fannie BRAMMER, second wife of Richard "Dickey" WOOD? "History of Floyd County," p. 263. Richard "Dickey" WOOD was born in 1769 and died at the top of Woods Gap in Patrick County, Virginia in 1859, aged 90 years. He married, first, Rachel COCKRAM, daughter of Edward COCKRAM, Sr.; secondly, Fannie BRAMMER, no children; thirdly, Betsey DEHART, four children; fourthly, Lucy VIA, six children." Edward WOOD, husband of Mary MORAN, was a son of Dickey WOOD and his first wife, Rachel COCKRAM/COCHRAN. Rachel and Dickey were the parents of "Alex" (Patrick Alexander) WOOD...he married Bethany BRAMMER...my direct line. Just trying to fill in the gaps. It's so convoluted! Ha!!! Many thanks! Lainie Hendrix El Paso, TX

You wrote--------- >Cynthia, >i have a list of property of Nelson Moran that was sold at auction after his >death that includes slaves. Are you interested? I am descended from his >daughter Mary's marriage to Edward Wood > >Take care >Terri ================================= Terri, was this the Nelson Moran that married Nancy Brammer? If it is may I also have this list of property? In fact, I need anything you can send me on them. All I have is their marriage date. Nancy Brammer was my 3rd great aunt or something like that! :-) Thanks, Barb S.

At 11:12 AM 10/5/98 -0700, you wrote: >Looking for information on the Moran family of Patrick County. So far >the only names I have are Nelson Moran and James Mourning, maybe >father and son. > > I am also looking for wills that family that may mention slaves. One >name in particular is Sarah and maybe Jathina. > >Cynthia A. Wilson >Seattle, WA ===================================== Hi Cynthia, Here's some death records: Elizabeth Moran 28 Aug 1856 COD Flux age 18 parents Elijah & Caroline Moran Mary A. Moran 10 Aug 1862 COD disease of head age 1 yr. Parents Jno. & Ruth Moran Infor. William Moran, grandfather Patrick Co. Marriages: Sept. 5, 1849 - Samuel Snead & Elizabeth Moran daughter of Nelson Moran - Sur. John Howell Minister - Jesse Jones Jan. 11, 1838 - Adam Thomas & Sally Moran d/o Nelson Moran - Sur. David Owen Wit. John Moran Dec. 12, 1836 - John W. Thomas, Jr. & Lucinda Moran d/o Nelson Moran - Sur. John J. Gough - Wit. John Moran and Elizabeth Moran - Min. Jesse Jones - M.R. Dec. 15, 1836 Sept. 23, 1830 - Edward Wood & Mary Moran - Min. Jesse Jones April 22, 1828 - Peter Wood son of Richard Wood & Nancy Moran Sur. Isaac Adams. Wit. Jesse Viars. March 10, 1839 - Elijah Moran & C. Hall. Sur. G.W. Lewis Nov. 7, 1835 - John Moran & Martha Cannaday d.o William Cannaday - Min. Jesse Jones Sur. William Cannaday M.R. Dec. 10, 1835 Sept. 9, 1839 - Nelson Moran & Nancy Brammer Sur. Jonathan Brammer - Min. Jesse Jones M.R. Sept. 11, 1839 Cynthia - this is one of my family. Nancy Brammer was the daughter of John Brammer and Sarah Lee. The surety in this marriage, Jonathan Brammer, was her brother. Dec. 27, 1834 - Wm. Moran & Maryan Owen - Sur. David Owen - Min. Joshua Adams M.R. Dec. 28, 1834 I checked the slaves in the death records named Sarah but didn't find one that lived with the Morans. There wasn't anything under the name Jathina in the deaths. Did someone already send you the 4 Morans listed on the 1850 census? If you need these let me know. Barb S.

---- >Looking for information on the Moran family of Patrick County. So far >the only names I have are Nelson Moran and James Mourning, maybe >father and son. > > I am also looking for wills that family that may mention slaves. One >name in particular is Sarah and maybe Jathina. > > > > > >== > >Cynthia A. Wilson >Seattle, WA > > >_________________________________________________________ >> Cynthia, i have a list of property of Nelson Moran that was sold at auction after his death that includes slaves. Are you interested? I am descended from his daughter Mary's marriage to Edward Wood Take care Terri

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Does anyone have access to marriage records for Patrick County? I am looking for a marriage record for Myrtle Johnson and Lemuel L. Spencer - sometime time around 1926 to 1928. Thanking you in advance for your assistance. == Cynthia A. Wilson Seattle, WA _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Is Ella Leah COCKRAN who married Elisha BOYD 18 Nov 1830 in Franklin Co. the same Leah Cockram who is the daughter of Edward Cockram Sr. and Mary Polly Edwards? Thanks. Janet Estep