I didn't think there was a surviving 1890 census.

Thanks, Velpo....and what would the next one be? --Joyce At 02:56 AM 12/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >Joyce, > The 1890 census doesn't exist. It was lost and only a few counties >exist today. Velpo > >Joyce Shelton Bunch wrote: > >> Does anyone have access to an 1890 Patrick Co census...?? >> >> --Joyce >> >> I am a NC reunited adoptee. >> http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/nurse.html >> http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/gene.html (GENEALOGY) > > > > I am a NC reunited adoptee. http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/nurse.html http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/gene.html (GENEALOGY)

-----Original Message----- From: SybilGA@aol.com <SybilGA@aol.com> To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com <VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 11:49 PM Subject: Scott Family >Hello All! I have hit a dead end with my Scott ancestors. If anyone can help >me, it would be greatly appreciated. The following is the only information >that I have collected so far. Here's some info for you. I have more on Foley if you need it. Sherry LUTHUR DOUTHFORD SCOTT was born Apr 20, 1895 in Patrick Co, Va., and died Feb 1974 in Stuart, Patrick Co, Va.. He married ANNICE MAY FOLEY Sep 5, 1925 in Patrick Co, Va., daughter of MACK FOLEY and NANNIE FOLEY. Children of LUTHUR SCOTT and ANNICE FOLEY are: i. BREWSTER SCOTT, b. May 12, 1926. ii. EUNICE SCOTT, b. Aft. 1925. iii. CECIL SCOTT, b. Aft. 1925. iv. RICHARD SCOTT, b. Aft. 1925. v. WILBUR SCOTT, b. Aft. 1925. vi. ARNOLD SCOTT, b. Aft. 1925. vii. GREENLOYD SCOTT, b. Aft. 1925. viii. PHYLLIS SCOTT, b. Aft. 1925. ix. ELLIOT SCOTT, b. Aft. 1925. x. ELAINE SCOTT, b. Aft. 1925.

Hello, Where is your HOLLINGSWORTH family and what appoximate time period? Mine are basically from North Carolina. Diane cassidymarie@juno.com On Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:36:49 -0600 amoore@networksplus.net (Ann Moore) writes: >I am not really new to this list but I might run through my surnames >again >just in case some new people don't know them: >HOLLINGSWORTH/HOLLANDSWORTH, >SMALLMAN, HARRIS, STOW,MAYSE/MAYS,PURDY > >Ann Moore >5209 SW 32nd Ter. >Topeka, KS 66614-4014 >amoore@networksplus.net > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Does anyone have access to an 1890 Patrick Co census...?? --Joyce I am a NC reunited adoptee. http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/nurse.html http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/gene.html (GENEALOGY)

Hello All! I have hit a dead end with my Scott ancestors. If anyone can help me, it would be greatly appreciated. The following is the only information that I have collected so far. William Scott and Matilda Tabor Scott were named on the marriage record of their son, Robert Scott. Robert was born in 1871 in Franklin County. He married Rozina Midkiff, (dau. of Greenville Midkiff and Rhoda Nelson). Rozina was born in Patrick Co. on Sept 2, 1871 and died there on Dec 7, 1953. It is not known when Robert died or where he is buried. They were the parents of Ernest, Luther 1895-1974 married Annice Foley, Mary Elizabeth 1899-1973 married Carter Clifton and Robert Shelor, Walter 1909-1979, Emmitt 1914-1986 married Mamie Pendleton, and Lemley 1917-1964.

At 03:19 PM 12/15/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Ann, > >What Harris family are you researching? > >Romona > > >==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== >Archives for Patrick Co., Va. Mailing List ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl>http://searches.rootsw eb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >Ramona, All I have is Samuel Harris b. bt 1773 m. Betsy Hollandsworth Oct. 10, 1793 in Patrick Co., VA. We do not have any further information on him. Anything will help. Ann Moore Ann Moore 5209 SW 32nd Ter. Topeka, KS 66614-4014 amoore@networksplus.net

Barbara N. Cheek, Hope some of this helps. Have more if you need it. Nettie Clifton ========== Matthew Scott b 1748/55 Ireland,TyroneCo. d 15 Jan 1815 MontgomeryCoVA, m c1787 VA Lucretia Ogle b 6 Mar 1759 VA or PA d 1836 FloydCoVA. Children: Thomas, John, Ref #26.Hercules, Jehu, Elizabeth, Ann, Diannna, Diona, Hiron, Byron, Mary "Polly" & Delilah. Thomas Scott Sr. b c1776/80/83/90 MontgomeryCoVA d 1874 PCVA, son of Matthew & Lucretia Ogle Scott, m 7 Mar 1809 MontgomeryCoVA Sarah "Sallie" Shelor b c1790/95 FloydCoVA d abt 1857 PCVA. They moved from Floyd Co. to Meadows of Dan in 1827. Children: Eliza, Helen Mary, Margaret "Peggy", Maria, Daniel Samuel, John, Jehu, Wolford, Thomas Jr., Polly,Peggy & Lucretia and maybe Boatswain. Jehu Scot b abt 1815, son of Thomas Scott & Sally Shelor, m ____ McGrady Scott b abt 1820. Lucretia (Laura) Scott, b Oct 1816 d Oct 1899, dau of Thomas Scott & Sally Shelor, m 24 Oct 1843 PCVA Richard Spangler b 1813 d 1897. Children: Eli, Elizabeth, Daniel, Julia & Mary. Jehu Scott b abt 1792, son of Matthew David & Lucretia Ogle Scott, m Martha Templeton b abt 1800.

Hi Ann, What Harris family are you researching? Romona

Hi Barbara! Lucretia Scott Spangler had a brother named John "Jehu" Scott. He was born in 1822. I don't have a death date for him. Not sure if he's the one, but... Kathy Kuzas

There is a marker for JEHU SCOTT, CO. C 54 VA INF, C.S.A. (no dates) in the Spangler Cemetery on Road #614. Can anyone tell me who the parents of this person were and also his d.o.b. and d. o. d.? How was he related to LUCRETIA SCOTT SPANGLER who is also buried in this cemetery? Thanks, bnc

Hello Subscribers, I have just recently logged on and via the invitation, thought I would post my question. I belong to the HANCOCK mail list which is very active but there is one thing in particular I am searching for: my ancestor, John D. HANCOCK and his wife, Elizabeth MADDOX HANCOCK died in Patrick County. John died 10 Nov 1802 and Elizabeth died around 1805. Has anybody seen their tombstones? *Thanks* Debbie in western ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Joyce, Great! Maybe you can find them in 1860 too as I understand the 1860 PCVA Census is now online. You can reach this site through the PCVA Homepage... http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ Barb R. > -----Original Message----- > From: Joyce Shelton Bunch [mailto:rosejoy@mindspring.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 1998 12:02 PM > To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: CHILDRESS/GWYN > > > Barb, you are so right! This is my family! I am so excited!!!!!! I have > looked and looked. Thanks so much! > --Joyce B > > > At 12:19 AM 12/13/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Joyce, > >I think this is your Childress family... > > > >1850 PCVA #716 South: > >Martin Childress 24 yo blacksmith b. NC > >Frances Childress 21 yo b. VA > >Cornelia Childress 1 yo b. VA > > > >1870 PCVA #374 Dan River: > >Martin 46 yo > >Martha F. 42 yo > >John W. 18 yo > >Osburn F. 16 yo (Could this be your A. F. Childress?) > >James A. 13 yo > >Elizabeth M. 6 yo > >Charles R. 1 yo > > > >Osborne Franklin Childress m. Eliza Jane Gwyn 1-6-1873 PCVA. He 20 yo, > >b.PCVA, s/o Martin & Frances Childress. She 22 yo, b. PCVA, d/o > Franklin & > >Martha Gwyn. > > > >Hope this helps, > >Barb R. > > > > > >---------- > >From: Joyce Shelton Bunch[SMTP:rosejoy@mindspring.com] > >Reply To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com > >Sent: Friday, December 11, 1998 3:47 PM > >To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: CHILDRESS/GWYN > > > >I am still looking for info on the following people who lived in > Patrick Co. > > > >A.F. Childress b. 1853, d. 1918, married to Eliza Jane Gwyn. b. 1849, d. > >1931. They are buried in the Hunter Glen Chapel Cemetery, Ararat, VA. > > > >Maggie Childress McMillian, b. 1885, d. 1910, m. Isaac Martin Chandler. > > > >Martha Frances Childress, m. Abe Hendricks > > > >Matthew Childress > > > >Maggie, Martha, and Matthew had a sister named Cassie who died about 2 > >years old and is listed in the Patrick County Deaths...as > daughter of A.F. > >and Eliza J. Childress. > > > >ANY information would be great!! > > > >--Joyce > > > >I am a NC reunited adoptee. > >http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/nurse.html > >http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/gene.html (GENEALOGY) > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a NC reunited adoptee. > http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/nurse.html > http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/gene.html (GENEALOGY) > >

Barb, you are so right! This is my family! I am so excited!!!!!! I have looked and looked. Thanks so much! --Joyce B At 12:19 AM 12/13/98 -0600, you wrote: >Joyce, >I think this is your Childress family... > >1850 PCVA #716 South: >Martin Childress 24 yo blacksmith b. NC >Frances Childress 21 yo b. VA >Cornelia Childress 1 yo b. VA > >1870 PCVA #374 Dan River: >Martin 46 yo >Martha F. 42 yo >John W. 18 yo >Osburn F. 16 yo (Could this be your A. F. Childress?) >James A. 13 yo >Elizabeth M. 6 yo >Charles R. 1 yo > >Osborne Franklin Childress m. Eliza Jane Gwyn 1-6-1873 PCVA. He 20 yo, >b.PCVA, s/o Martin & Frances Childress. She 22 yo, b. PCVA, d/o Franklin & >Martha Gwyn. > >Hope this helps, >Barb R. > > >---------- >From: Joyce Shelton Bunch[SMTP:rosejoy@mindspring.com] >Reply To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Friday, December 11, 1998 3:47 PM >To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: CHILDRESS/GWYN > >I am still looking for info on the following people who lived in Patrick Co. > >A.F. Childress b. 1853, d. 1918, married to Eliza Jane Gwyn. b. 1849, d. >1931. They are buried in the Hunter Glen Chapel Cemetery, Ararat, VA. > >Maggie Childress McMillian, b. 1885, d. 1910, m. Isaac Martin Chandler. > >Martha Frances Childress, m. Abe Hendricks > >Matthew Childress > >Maggie, Martha, and Matthew had a sister named Cassie who died about 2 >years old and is listed in the Patrick County Deaths...as daughter of A.F. >and Eliza J. Childress. > >ANY information would be great!! > >--Joyce > >I am a NC reunited adoptee. >http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/nurse.html >http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/gene.html (GENEALOGY) > > > > > I am a NC reunited adoptee. http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/nurse.html http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/gene.html (GENEALOGY)

Joyce, I think this is your Childress family... 1850 PCVA #716 South: Martin Childress 24 yo blacksmith b. NC Frances Childress 21 yo b. VA Cornelia Childress 1 yo b. VA 1870 PCVA #374 Dan River: Martin 46 yo Martha F. 42 yo John W. 18 yo Osburn F. 16 yo (Could this be your A. F. Childress?) James A. 13 yo Elizabeth M. 6 yo Charles R. 1 yo Osborne Franklin Childress m. Eliza Jane Gwyn 1-6-1873 PCVA. He 20 yo, b.PCVA, s/o Martin & Frances Childress. She 22 yo, b. PCVA, d/o Franklin & Martha Gwyn. Hope this helps, Barb R. ---------- From: Joyce Shelton Bunch[SMTP:rosejoy@mindspring.com] Reply To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, December 11, 1998 3:47 PM To: VAPATRIC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: CHILDRESS/GWYN I am still looking for info on the following people who lived in Patrick Co. A.F. Childress b. 1853, d. 1918, married to Eliza Jane Gwyn. b. 1849, d. 1931. They are buried in the Hunter Glen Chapel Cemetery, Ararat, VA. Maggie Childress McMillian, b. 1885, d. 1910, m. Isaac Martin Chandler. Martha Frances Childress, m. Abe Hendricks Matthew Childress Maggie, Martha, and Matthew had a sister named Cassie who died about 2 years old and is listed in the Patrick County Deaths...as daughter of A.F. and Eliza J. Childress. ANY information would be great!! --Joyce I am a NC reunited adoptee. http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/nurse.html http://members.aol.com/joyrn60000/gene.html (GENEALOGY)

I am researching the families of LANDRETH and GOSSETT, both of whom lived in the present-day Patrick County area from the 1770s until about 1820. I would be happy to exchange information on these families. Wayne Modlin cmodlin@erols.com

Cousins, This is rather lengthy, but we need help. Please post any info to the list so that Sonny and I both get it. We have Alexander Bryant confused. Thanks!!--Sherry Sherry, We corresponded earlier this year about Alexander Bryant and Sarah Jane Ross. You had Sarah Jane Ross as being married to Alexander M. Bryant, who was born in 1834 and died in 1876. I believe this is the wrong Alexander for your Sarah Jane Ross. I think I may have found your Alexander Bryant and Sarah Jane in the book "Tombstone Inscriptions of the Cemeteries of Patrick County, Virginia, Revised and Expanded" Compiled by O.E. Pilson. On page 184 of that book, listed in the Sycamore Baptist Church Cemetery, appearing on the same tombstone are the following inscriptions: Alexander Bryant, b. 28 Nov. 1850; d. 15 May 1933 Sarah Jane Bryant, b. 12 Sept. 1848; d. 30 July 1934 Could these be yours? I have very strong evidence that Alexander M. Bryant was my great grandfather and my mother has direct knowledge that his wife's maiden name was Mary Jane Purdy. Sonny Griffith >Sonny, >The 1870 census entry for Alexander puts his birthdate as being 1836 and >hers as 1844. >121. ----- >Alexander M. Bryant 34 w/m farmer $100 VA >Jane 26 w/f >Elizabeth 2 >Abner 1 >James A. 1mos >I looked at all the Bryants in the 1850 Census and there was no Alexander in any family. Do you have access to an 1860 census? I have no idea where he >was before 1870. >Also in the 1870 Census there is: >222. ----- >John Bryant 68 w/m Farmer $1,024 NC >Elizabeth 25 w/f Housekeeper VA >Alexander 21 Farm Work >Sarah A. 17 Domestic Servant >The above Alexander would have been born about 1850 to match the O E Pilson >info. >I don't have a marriage date for Alexander and Sarah Jane Ross. >Should we post this to Patrick Co mail list to see if someone can help us? >Sherry Crawford >dansher@tkdyer.com <mailto:dansher@tkdyer.com> Hi Sherry, Yes, it couldn't hurt to post this to the Patrick County list if you would like to do this. First, though, let me give you what information I have learned. I do have a copy of the 1860 Patrick County census. I ordered it on cd-rom from SK Publishing. They have a deal whereby if you order a cd from them, they will donate one to the USGENWEB census project. I received an email today that it has been uploaded to the internet, so you can actually view it as well. Maybe you received the same email, but just in case I'll try to remember to forward it to you after I compose this email. Alexander, at this point in his life, is single and still living on his father's farm. By the way, I've also ordered the 1880 Patrick County census from SK and am expecting it to arrive in the mail today or Monday. A copy of this one will also be donated to the USGENWEB census project, so you can look forward to having internet access to it as well. I know you said you couldn't find Alexander in the 1850 census, but actually he is there. The tricky part is that their surname is spelled Bryan in the 1850 census. Alexander is listed as 19 years of age in this census. They are family #3 in the Northern District. You can tell this is the right Bryant family because of the childrens names and ages matches. Catherine and Elizabeth never married and stayed with their parents, and you can trace them through the 1850, 1860, and 1870 censuses. Of course Abner J. Bryant, Alexander's father, died in 1863 so he doesn't show up on the 1870 census. You'll see by looking at all the censuses, you can't nail Alexander's birth year exactly. Alexander's death is listed in the Patrick County Death Records, 1870 - 1896. He died on 18 September 1876 and was listed as 41 years old. That would put his birth in 1835. Hhhheeeeeyyyyyyyy!!! I just noticed while looking up Alexander's death record, there are three death records of children born to Alex and S.J. Bryant. What do you want to bet the S.J. stands for Sarah Jane? The children are Beamer G. Bryant, Elezora Madge Bryant, and Walter I Bryant. Do you have the Patrick County death records? If not you can download them from the Patrick County Home Page. These children seem to be of the age that they could be the children of the Alex and Sarah Jane Bryant whose graves I wrote to you about earlier. Now, for the evidence I have that Alexander M. Bryant is my great grandfather and that he was married to a Mary Jane Purdy. My mother knew her grandmother and knew her maiden name to be Mary Jane Purdy. She married a Ratcliffe after her first husband, Alex, died. My mother was told that Mary Jane was a school teacher and that she originally came from Pennsylvania. A number of years ago, my mother sat down with my grandfather (her father), Newell King Bryant, and asked about his father. Newell said his father's name was Alex and that he died when Newell was only 5 months old. Newell was born April 19, 1876. Newell said they lived in Patrick County at first and later, with his step-father, lived in various places including McComas, WV and Winchester, VA. Newell had an older brother named Abner J. Bryant, known as Uncle Bud by my Mom and her siblings. He also had an older sister called Betty Jane, but whose real name was Elisabeth. She was about a year older than Abner. The next brother was known to the family by the nickname of Sap, but when I interviewed a gathering of the family this past spring someone said they thought his name may have been James. My grandfather also told my mom that he had a sister that died when she was 16 years old that was the spitting image of my mother. She would have had to be born sometime between the1870 census and 1876 when Alexander died. All the ages of Alexander's children that we know about match the ages of the like named children in the 1870 census. Also from the Patrick County death record you can see that Alexander M. Bryant died exactly 5 months after Newell was born, just as Newell told my mother. To me, the evidence is overwhelming that Alexander M. Bryant is my great grandfather and that the Jane listed in the 1870 census is really Mary Jane Purdy Bryant. Some other information my grandfather told my mom was that the family originally came from Ireland and that their surname was O'Bryan (or O'Brian, he didn't say how they spelled it). There is also information in our family that the family first settled in North Carolina. There is an indication of this in that Abner Bryan in the 1850 PC census was listed as being born in North Carolina. One last piece of information I have is that I have found Abner J. Bryant's grave in the O.E. Pilson book. What's really interesting is that this is a Bryant family grave and as was custom in those days the families buried their members on their own property so this is probably the site of the original Bryant homestead in Patrick County. Now, in this same family graveyard where Abner J. Bryant is buried, there is also buried the remains of a man who was the right age to be Abner's father. His name was William and he was born in Oct. 15, 1760 and died June 29, 1848. Incidently, Alexander's father, Abner J. Bryant was born Feb 18, 1799 and died Dec. 5, 1863 according to the inscriptions on the tombstone. The birth year matches with the census. While I don't think your Alexander Bryant who married Sarah Jane Ross is the same as my Alexander M. Bryant, I do think they are probably related. Let me know what you think and certainly if I learn anything more on this I'll send you a note. We may be able to learn a bit more when I get my copy of the 1880 PC census. Sonny Griffith

MERRY CHRISTMAS and we are looking forward to a very good 1999. I have posted a link to the 1860 census for Patrick Co. VA. provided by SK Publications and placed in the VA archives. Mary Hudson mahud@rollanet.org USGenWeb cc Hickory Co. MO. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mohickor/hickory.htm USGenWeb cc Mississippi Co. MO http://www.rootsweb.com/~momissis/ USGenWeb cc Van Buren TN http://www.tngenweb.org/vanburen/ USGenWeb cc Patrick Co. VA. http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ USGenWeb cc Colbert Co. AL. http://www.rootsweb.com/~alcolber/colbert.htm Personal Home pages http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/3597 http://www.rollanet.org/~mahud/index.html

Hello to everyone. I'm a "lurker" here since I live in Patrick County. I've done years of research and have a number of surname files that I have collected and recorded. I help wherever I can, but I don't do lookups in the Clerk's office anymore. My vision is not what it once was. My main surnames are Robertson, Bateman, Baliles, Stone, Dawson, McAlexander, DeHart, and Howell. Merry Christmas to all. Eunice B. Kirkman ***** ekirkman@swva.net -----Original Message----- From: VAPATRIC-D-request@rootsweb.com <VAPATRIC-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: VAPATRIC-D@rootsweb.com <VAPATRIC-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 11:53 AM Subject: VAPATRIC-D Digest V98 #161

>Hi, I'm Bill Atkins, a new subscriber, in Fort Worth, TX. Not really >researching in Patrick Co., more like "listening". My sister Bettye >Atkins Cartwright and her late husband Walter have pretty well "scrubbed >out" Patrick Co. in their quest for HARBOURS, ATKINS, WHITAKER, HUDSON >(HUTSON) and to a much lesser extent the Caudle, Copeland, Goode, Cole, >Cumming, Handy, Morgan, Bridges, Slaughter and Handy lines. Bill, Are your Atkins, Goode and Slaughter connected to the Jameses from Franklin and Orange County, Virgina? There was a Mildred James who m. a Joseph Atkins in Orange Co in late 1700's. Bev