What were the years for this family? Mary

Looking for anyone who is researching Daniel and Mehetable Vaughn(an) family. His children are Diana, Laura B, Victoria, Floyd J. and Joseph W. Vaughn(an). Cynthia A. Wilson Seattle, WA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Carolyn, I have sent you my write-ups and the pictures did not show on the write up which is shown in text in its entirety on the last thing representing Internet. The pictures you will find on the first several camera sections. The male is my great grandfather Rev. William Madison Lawson (please mark out one of the greats for he is not my 2nd great but is my great grandfather). The female is my mother Lucinda Agnes Shelor Lawson and the other picture is Augustine Herman. I hope you can piece it altogether. Thank you for reminding me. I had sent them to Rena for some reason. Wilma Lawson Padgett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: [VAPATRICK] Picnic book deadline > We're winding down to the cut-off date for submissions to be in the "picnic" book. Please get any photos or stories to me by Friday, April 29th, or I can't promise you'll be in the book. > > Hustle! > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE > Co-author of Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots (hardback is out of print) > and Rebel King, The Har'ships > See our site at www.RebelKing.com > Just arrived: VIRGINIANA, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia History & Other Stuff > See our site at www.virginianabooks.com > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ > >

Hello, Try sending those pictures to the Patrick County Genealogy Society, P O Box 1016, Stuart, VA 24171. Please mark the lower left hand corner with :WWII Pictorial Book. We are also in the process of working on volume II of the Patrick County Heritage Book and this will help to keep it from getting mixed up with stories for the Heritage book. Thank you and many thanks for your interest in our books. Sincerely, Pat Long Roanoke, VA > > From: <[email protected]> > Date: 2005/05/07 Sat PM 01:44:05 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [VAPATRICK] Re: VAPATRIC-D Digest V05 #67 > > I recall that sometime ago, someone was asking for photos of our military > relatives, etc. I have a number of these, including my Dad who was in both > WWII and the Korean War. > > Can someone please tell me where I can send the photos? > > > Ann > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator > Barb Stanley > [email protected] > >

I recall that sometime ago, someone was asking for photos of our military relatives, etc. I have a number of these, including my Dad who was in both WWII and the Korean War. Can someone please tell me where I can send the photos? Ann

my grandfather was samuel clifton son of carter frank clifton and grandson of emanuel clifton. does that help [email protected] wrote:Dear Jessica, I have Clifton ancestors. Can you give me the names of those you are looking for? Mine came from Rockingham Co, NC to Patrick Co, VA. My great-great grandmother was Arrenia Clifton who married Deveroux Marquis Lewis. Arrenia was the daughter of John Robert Clifton. Are you descended from one of Arreni's brothers? Looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Pat Long Roanoke, VA > > From: jessica tate > Date: 2005/05/03 Tue PM 01:08:21 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Cemetery Lookup - Dr W.F. B. Taylor > > looking for any cliftons, any help would be appreciated > > [email protected] wrote:John, > Dr. W.F.B. Taylor b 2/17/1828 and died 9/5/1891 is buried in Dr. W.F.B. > Taylor graves, which is located in the sharp curve in Road # 618, at Elamsville. > > This information taken from Tombstone Inscriptions of the Cemeteries Revised > of Patrick County, VA, written by O. E. Pilson. It is listed on page 177 and > cemetery 361. Only 3 graves are listed including Pencie A. Purdy his wife, > born 1/12/1863 and died 6/24/1943, and Wiley F. B. Taylor, b, 5/17/1882 and > died 7/21/1885. Probably his son. > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 > http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

In a message dated 5/4/2005 11:51:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Didn't a Sam Harris marry Sarah "Sally" Vaughan in Patrick County? Yes, Samuel Monroe Harris, a son of Samuel and Betsey Hollandsworth Harris married Sarah Vaughan. Pat C Johns in Va.

Samuel Monroe Harris, son of Samuel Harris and Betsy Hollandsworth, married Sarah Vaughn on 5 Dec 1831 in Floyd County. The man whose DNA was tested was a descendant of Samuel Monroe Harris. Charles

Yes, the DNA results indicate that William Harris and Samuel Harris were not closely related biologically. There are so many differences between the DNA of their descendants that one would probably have to go back to precolonial times to find the shared male ancestor. There is a possibility, however, that William and Samuel thought they were cousins. If the grandfather of one was illegitimate or adopted, for example, the DNA chain from father to son would have been broken. There is no documented evidence for that, however. It is striking that the families of William and Samuel don't seem to appear together in any document, even though they lived so close to each other. Someone has suggested to me that there was a family feud between them. I haven't researched Rev. Samuel Harris, but my impression is that he and his children stayed in Pittsylvania County. I can't tell whether any male-line descendants have been tested, but it should be easy and even fun to find out if you are familiar with names in the family. Just go to _http://www.harrisdna.org/new15.html_ (http://www.harrisdna.org/new15.html) and click on the number in the left column to see an abbreviated tree, or hover the cursor over the name of the oldest known male ancestor in the second column to see his data. By the way, Pat, thank you for all the documents you have transcribed and the other data you have provided. Much of what I know about Samuel Harris is thanks to you. Charles

Didn't a Sam Harris marry Sarah "Sally" Vaughan in Patrick County?

ABSOLUTELY LAST CALL for stories or photos to appear in this year's Reunion book. Forward them no later than Friday, May 6th... via EMAIL ONLY! We have no more time to wait on "snail mail." Nothing will be included that arrives after that date unless it has been postmarked before today. (You know how long it sometimes takes to travel by pony express!) IT'S NOW OR NEVER for this year, so get busy! And thanks to all of you who have provided stories and photos already! It's going to be a good 'un. Carolyn HALE BRUCE Co-author of Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots (hardback is out of print) and Rebel King, The Har'ships See our site at www.RebelKing.com Just arrived: VIRGINIANA, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia History & Other Stuff See our site at www.virginianabooks.com

Charles, My ancestor is the Daniel Harris who married Nancy Trent, son of Samuel Harris and Elizabeth "Betsey" Hollandsworth. Am I reading your email correctly in that my Samuel is not of the same Harris line as William who married Sarah Steele? Not even a nephew? Is there any DNA on the Rev. Samuel Harris line? Does anyone know the Rev. Samuel Harrises ancestory? Could my Samuel have been a nephew of the Rev? These are questions I have been exploring for years and I have found nothing to tie my line to any Harris lines. Pat C. Johns in Va.

Hi Jeff, Are you in the Meshack or Shadrack Turner line? Can you elaborate a bit on your oldest ancestor? I will be glad to share? My line: Richard> John > Shadrack > William > Rev. John Turner and Nancy Burnett > William and Martha Philpott Turner > Ruth Turner, their only child, m. Madison Thompson Lawson > Turner Madison Lawson > ME. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Turner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Turner To Dickenson County ?? > Wilma, > > Thanks for the Reply. > > Jeff Turner > > Grandson of John H. Turner > GGrandson of S.J. "Jeff" Turner and Rachel Cannady Turner > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wilmapadgett1919 > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 2:30 PM > Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Turner To Dickenson County ?? > > > Jeff, you and I are kin. Our people did and still do live in Patrick and > Southwest Virginia. My grandmother was Ruth Turner, daughter of William and > Martha Philpott Turner. All land, everywhere is God's land, one no better > than the other. It is what we do with it that matters. We are good people, > we Turners, no matter where we live. > > Wilma Lawson Padgett > Granddaughter of Ruth Turner > Great Granddaughter of Rev. John and Nancy Burnett Turner > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Turner" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:28 PM > Subject: [VAPATRICK] Turner To Dickenson County ?? > > > > I have enjoyed the discussion of why Fracklin County families moved to > Missouri, and learned some things. > > > > My relative, James R. Turner, of Franklin or Patrick County, apparently > moved to Dickenson County in southwest Virginia around 1850. > > > > Same question. Why? Certainly the land in Dickenson County is not better > than Franklin/Patrick Counties. So why move? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Jeff Turner > > Gates Mills, Ohio > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > > Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 > > http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm > > > > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 > http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator > Barb Stanley > [email protected] > >

Dear Jessica, I have Clifton ancestors. Can you give me the names of those you are looking for? Mine came from Rockingham Co, NC to Patrick Co, VA. My great-great grandmother was Arrenia Clifton who married Deveroux Marquis Lewis. Arrenia was the daughter of John Robert Clifton. Are you descended from one of Arreni's brothers? Looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Pat Long Roanoke, VA > > From: jessica tate <[email protected]> > Date: 2005/05/03 Tue PM 01:08:21 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Cemetery Lookup - Dr W.F. B. Taylor > > looking for any cliftons, any help would be appreciated > > [email protected] wrote:John, > Dr. W.F.B. Taylor b 2/17/1828 and died 9/5/1891 is buried in Dr. W.F.B. > Taylor graves, which is located in the sharp curve in Road # 618, at Elamsville. > > This information taken from Tombstone Inscriptions of the Cemeteries Revised > of Patrick County, VA, written by O. E. Pilson. It is listed on page 177 and > cemetery 361. Only 3 graves are listed including Pencie A. Purdy his wife, > born 1/12/1863 and died 6/24/1943, and Wiley F. B. Taylor, b, 5/17/1882 and > died 7/21/1885. Probably his son. > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 > http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm > >

Many thanks to Tom, Nettie, and SRosen for your responses. I've been wanting to get a copy of this book and talked to a cousin earlier tonight who was friends with the Pilsons and thinks she can find me a copy while I'm up in God's country this week. John Taylor > John, > Dr. W.F.B. Taylor b 2/17/1828 and died 9/5/1891 is buried in Dr. W.F.B. > Taylor graves, which is located in the sharp curve in Road # 618, at > Elamsville. > > This information taken from Tombstone Inscriptions of the Cemeteries > Revised > of Patrick County, VA, written by O. E. Pilson. It is listed on page 177 > and > cemetery 361. Only 3 graves are listed including Pencie A. Purdy his > wife, > born 1/12/1863 and died 6/24/1943, and Wiley F. B. Taylor, b, 5/17/1882 > and > died 7/21/1885. Probably his son.

Correspond directly with Nettie Cleifton at [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

There were six Harris families in Patrick County at the time it was formed in 1791, but only William and Samuel Harris appear to have had descendants in the county a century later. William Harris married Sarah Steele in Cumberland County VA, and around 1785 they settled on Jacks Creek in what was then still Henry County. William had six sons who owned hundreds of acres on the headwaters of Smith River, but most soon left the county. In the 1880 census their only descendants in Patrick County were in the families of their grandson William III (1790 - 1876) and their great grandson Samuel Green Harris (1833 - after 1910). The other Harris patriarch was the Samuel Harris who married Sarah Elizabeth Hollandsworth in Patrick County in 1793 and settled on Blackberry Creek. Samuel had several sons, but only Daniel (ca. 1809 - 1879) remained in Patrick County and had Harris descendants there in the 1880 census. Since the families of William and Samuel lived within 10 miles of each other, it would be reasonable to assume that they were related, although there is no documentary evidence that they interacted. Results of DNA tests posted at _www.harrisdna.org_ (http://www.harrisdna.org) now indicate that William was in fact not closely related to Samuel. There are two test kits (numbers 8895 and 28636 in Group 10) from Harris men who trace their male line back to William, and one kit (number 8871 in Group 12) from a male lineal descendant of Samuel. The first two kits match exactly with each other, but they differ from the third kit. This indicates that one Harris male was not the biological ancestor from whom both William and Samuel got the surname Harris. The three DNA samples are similar enough, however, that they belong to the same type, called haplogroup I, which is common in Scandinavia. The explanation may be as follows. In the ninth century Viking warriors conquered Normandy, France, then after 1066 some of their descendants followed William the Conqueror to England. The Harris name originated among Normans at about that time. William and Samuel Harris were therefore probably descendants of Vikings, who became Normans, then Englishmen. William and Samuel may have descended from two of the English Harris men who arrived at Jamestown beginning in 1611. Charles Leon Harris

What a fascinating subject to read about. I'm envious of your understanding of your lineage, even if you can't tap each separate ancestor back to the Vikings. What a good example you are for the rest of us. Irene -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VAPATRICK] DNA shows two early Harris families of Patrick County were not related There were six Harris families in Patrick County at the time it was formed in 1791, but only William and Samuel Harris appear to have had descendants in the county a century later. William Harris married Sarah Steele in Cumberland County VA, and around 1785 they settled on Jacks Creek in what was then still Henry County. William had six sons who owned hundreds of acres on the headwaters of Smith River, but most soon left the county. In the 1880 census their only descendants in Patrick County were in the families of their grandson William III (1790 - 1876) and their great grandson Samuel Green Harris (1833 - after 1910). The other Harris patriarch was the Samuel Harris who married Sarah Elizabeth Hollandsworth in Patrick County in 1793 and settled on Blackberry Creek. Samuel had several sons, but only Daniel (ca. 1809 - 1879) remained in Patrick County and had Harris descendants there in the 1880 census. Since the families of William and Samuel lived within 10 miles of each other, it would be reasonable to assume that they were related, although there is no documentary evidence that they interacted. Results of DNA tests posted at _www.harrisdna.org_ (http://www.harrisdna.org) now indicate that William was in fact not closely related to Samuel. There are two test kits (numbers 8895 and 28636 in Group 10) from Harris men who trace their male line back to William, and one kit (number 8871 in Group 12) from a male lineal descendant of Samuel. The first two kits match exactly with each other, but they differ from the third kit. This indicates that one Harris male was not the biological ancestor from whom both William and Samuel got the surname Harris. The three DNA samples are similar enough, however, that they belong to the same type, called haplogroup I, which is common in Scandinavia. The explanation may be as follows. In the ninth century Viking warriors conquered Normandy, France, then after 1066 some of their descendants followed William the Conqueror to England. The Harris name originated among Normans at about that time. William and Samuel Harris were therefore probably descendants of Vikings, who became Normans, then Englishmen. William and Samuel may have descended from two of the English Harris men who arrived at Jamestown beginning in 1611. Charles Leon Harris ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator Barb Stanley [email protected]

John, Dr. W.F.B. Taylor b 2/17/1828 and died 9/5/1891 is buried in Dr. W.F.B. Taylor graves, which is located in the sharp curve in Road # 618, at Elamsville. This information taken from Tombstone Inscriptions of the Cemeteries Revised of Patrick County, VA, written by O. E. Pilson. It is listed on page 177 and cemetery 361. Only 3 graves are listed including Pencie A. Purdy his wife, born 1/12/1863 and died 6/24/1943, and Wiley F. B. Taylor, b, 5/17/1882 and died 7/21/1885. Probably his son.

looking for any cliftons, any help would be appreciated [email protected] wrote:John, Dr. W.F.B. Taylor b 2/17/1828 and died 9/5/1891 is buried in Dr. W.F.B. Taylor graves, which is located in the sharp curve in Road # 618, at Elamsville. This information taken from Tombstone Inscriptions of the Cemeteries Revised of Patrick County, VA, written by O. E. Pilson. It is listed on page 177 and cemetery 361. Only 3 graves are listed including Pencie A. Purdy his wife, born 1/12/1863 and died 6/24/1943, and Wiley F. B. Taylor, b, 5/17/1882 and died 7/21/1885. Probably his son. ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com