WILMA: DO NOT WORRY. YOU WILL HAVE A BOOK AND YOU WILL LOVE IT. CAROLYN N DID A GREAT JOB. YOU JUST GET YOURSELF WELL AND BE HERE NEXT YEAR. LOVE, ALLISON (ONE OF THE PICNIC PLANNERS) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Wilma > Hi, Wilma, > > I'm so glad that you caught the melanoma before it spread! The important > thing now is for you to let it heal properly. Don't do anything to > endanger that! > > I am also sorry to miss seeing you there, but will get you a cd if there > is not a book available. I confess now that I failed to put in all but one > of your photos with your story, but we had a time separating them from the > text. Next time you might want to send the photos separately. I can print > them on a separate piece of paper and we can put them into your book, > somehow. Let me see the finished product and I'll know how to handle it > better. Allison, bless her, had them printed and bound in Texas. > > Continue to heal, cousin, and be in top shape by Christmas! As for the > picnic... there will be another. > > Best, > Carolyn HALE BRUCE > Co-author of Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots (hardback is out of print) > and Rebel King, The Har'ships > See our site at www.RebelKing.com > Just arrived: VIRGINIANA, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia History & Other > Stuff > See our site at www.virginianabooks.com > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator > Barb Stanley > [email protected] > >

Does anyone know anything about or claim the Abel and William Lee found on the 1820 & 1830 in Patrick County, VA?? Are these the same as the 2 above? William was there again in 1840, but not Abel- then Abel was there in 1850 and not William?? Thanks for any help, Elnora Frances Cook-Wyrick Yesterday is a memory, Tomorrow is a dream, Today is a Gift John & Elnora Cook-Wyrick Families; http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/y/r/Elnora--F-Wyrick/

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barbs/picnic_2005.html Rena Worthen [email protected] Genealogy without documentation is MYTHOLOGY Founder and President Craig - Botetourt Genealogy Club

I'm going to put the directions from all directions on the web page because there are a lot of people asking directions. :-) <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barbs/picnic_2005.html>Picnic 2005 Barb S. ---------- At 06:24 PM 6/21/2005 -0400, you wrote: >.Folks, I hate to sound ignorant, but where is the Zion Lutheran Church, and >what time is the picnic? > >Yes, I can find my way to Floyd, unless they've closed Route 8. > >John in Ohio > > >==== VAFLOYD Mailing List ==== >Floyd County,Virginia Mailing List Web Site ><http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barbs/>http://freepages.genealog y.rootsweb.com/~barbs/ >

Carolyn, thank you for the kind words. It is ok that only one picture got in. If you want to paste them in or send them in a book for me, I will be happy. If you can hold a book for me and if you want money now, let me know. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Wilma > Hi, Wilma, > > I'm so glad that you caught the melanoma before it spread! The important thing now is for you to let it heal properly. Don't do anything to endanger that! > > I am also sorry to miss seeing you there, but will get you a cd if there is not a book available. I confess now that I failed to put in all but one of your photos with your story, but we had a time separating them from the text. Next time you might want to send the photos separately. I can print them on a separate piece of paper and we can put them into your book, somehow. Let me see the finished product and I'll know how to handle it better. Allison, bless her, had them printed and bound in Texas. > > Continue to heal, cousin, and be in top shape by Christmas! As for the picnic... there will be another. > > Best, > Carolyn HALE BRUCE > Co-author of Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots (hardback is out of print) > and Rebel King, The Har'ships > See our site at www.RebelKing.com > Just arrived: VIRGINIANA, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia History & Other Stuff > See our site at www.virginianabooks.com > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator > Barb Stanley > [email protected] > >

Hi, Wilma, I'm so glad that you caught the melanoma before it spread! The important thing now is for you to let it heal properly. Don't do anything to endanger that! I am also sorry to miss seeing you there, but will get you a cd if there is not a book available. I confess now that I failed to put in all but one of your photos with your story, but we had a time separating them from the text. Next time you might want to send the photos separately. I can print them on a separate piece of paper and we can put them into your book, somehow. Let me see the finished product and I'll know how to handle it better. Allison, bless her, had them printed and bound in Texas. Continue to heal, cousin, and be in top shape by Christmas! As for the picnic... there will be another. Best, Carolyn HALE BRUCE Co-author of Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots (hardback is out of print) and Rebel King, The Har'ships See our site at www.RebelKing.com Just arrived: VIRGINIANA, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia History & Other Stuff See our site at www.virginianabooks.com

Hi Barbara, I could weep but it will do no good. I have had a melanoma cancer removed from my leg and my doctor told me this morning that he does not want me to use that leg much yet. So, I cannot be at the picnic. I will be ok from the cancer; it had not spread but I do not want the leg to pop open. My cousin Connie Webb says she will be there. Please look for her and say hello for she will probably know no one unless she runs into some Shelor or Harris cousins. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Stanley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [VAPATRICK] Picnic Story Book! > > I just saw a copy of the story book that Carolyn Hale Bruce did for the > picnic!!! > > It's super - Carolyn did a fantastic job. > > You all are really going to like it! > > Thanks Very Much Carolyn!!!!! > > Barb S. > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Historical Society > http://www.patcovahistory.org/ > >

Dear Carolyn, I wanted so badly to be at the picnic. Even though I had a melanoma cancer taken from my leg, I thought I could go but the doctor told me today I must take it easy for a bit longer. So sorry not to meet you, my cousin, as well as many more that will be there. Your Picnic Story Book -- I would love a copy or a CD if you have one and will sell it to me. If that is possible, give me the price on my email line. My address is: Wilma Lawson Padgett, 8820 Walther Blvd., Apt. 2109, Parkville, MD 21234. My email add: [email protected] Have a nice time and look for my cousin, Connie Webb who plans to be there. Wilma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Bruce" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: [VAPATRICK] Re: Picnic Story Book! > Thanks, Barb, > > Glad you like it. And many thanks to Allison Galt-Hall for getting it printed and put together! > > Carolyn HALE BRUCE > Co-author of Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots (hardback is out of print) > and Rebel King, The Har'ships > See our site at www.RebelKing.com > Just arrived: VIRGINIANA, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia History & Other Stuff > See our site at www.virginianabooks.com > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ > >

Courtesy of Bruce Locke \ THE DAILY BULLETIN, Martinsville, Va., Mon. Afternoon, June 10, 1935, p. 3, col. 3 [edited]. P:atrick Springs, June 8. J. W. Fulcher, 73, died at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Robert Hancock, Wednesday. Funeral services were conducted at the old home place near here Thursday afternoon. He is survived by two daughters and two sons: Mrs. Robert Hancock, Patrick Springs; Mrs. Hassie Reynolds, Critz; Dick Fulcher, Roanoke and Grant Fulcher, Bassett. A notice in the paper dated June 24th, page 7, col. 5, included the following information. Patrick Springs. John W. Fulcher passed away June 5 at the home of his daughter near Patrick Springs. He was afflicted with cancer for several years. He was born August 23, 1862, and on December 25, 1883 was married to Lucy Ann Martin. To this union were born eight children. His wife and four children preceded him to the grave several years ago. He leaves four children: R. G. Fulcher, Roanoke; Mrs. Robert Hancock, Patrick Springs; Grant Fulcher, Ferrum and Mrs. Hassie Reynolds, Critz. Funeral services ere held in Liberty Church, and the body was then taken back to the old Fulcher home in Atwood Orchard. [Ref. PATRICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA MARRIAGES, 1875 - 1900: Eunice B. Kirkman, Compiler, O. E. Pilson, Editor, page 64, 25 Dec. 1883: John W. Fulcher, 21, B. Patrick Co., Son of Gabriel & Sarah A. Fulcher, married Lucy A. Martin, 18, B. Patrick Co., Dau. of J. & E. A. Martin. Ref. O. E. Pilson: TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTIONS OF PATRICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA, p. 142, John W. Fulcher cemetery, located 100 yards north of Rt. 687, on ridge of Bull Mountain in old Tudor Orchard land: John W. Fulcher, 8/23/1863 - 6/5/1935; Lucy A. Fulcher, 11/30/1865 - 12/27/1911; John Fulcher, 7/12/1891 - 12/12/1891; Bedie A. Fulcher, 4/27/1897 - 3/11/1905. Ref. PATRICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA MARRIAGES, 1875 - 1900, Eunice B. Kirkman, Comp., O. E. Pilson, Ed., page 64, 12/25/1883: John W. Fulcher, 21, B. Patrick Co., Son of Gabriel & Sarah A. Fulcher, married Lucy A. Martin, 18, B. Patrick Co., Dau.

Lucy Mildred Fulcher was married to my grandma's first cousin, Harris Turner "Hassie" Reynolds.

Thanks, Barb, Glad you like it. And many thanks to Allison Galt-Hall for getting it printed and put together! Carolyn HALE BRUCE Co-author of Rebel King, Hammer of the Scots (hardback is out of print) and Rebel King, The Har'ships See our site at www.RebelKing.com Just arrived: VIRGINIANA, A Visitors' Guide to Virginia History & Other Stuff See our site at www.virginianabooks.com

I just saw a copy of the story book that Carolyn Hale Bruce did for the picnic!!! It's super - Carolyn did a fantastic job. You all are really going to like it! Thanks Very Much Carolyn!!!!! Barb S.

Hello I'm new to this list. I have found the name of a person on the social security death index that is possibly the person I've been searching for. John Palmer born September 12, 1900 died in July 1978. His last residence was in Stuart, Patrick Co., Virginia. I am trying to determine if this John Palmer is the same John Palmer that was born in Alaska on September 12, 1900. Is there some kind soul out there that can look up an obituary for this man? I think the name of the newspaper is the Enterprise. I've tried to contact them but they tell me the newspapers are on microfilm but they have no staff to do a search. I would really appreciate hearing from someone who can help me. Coleen Alaska

>Randy Crouse McNew" <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:52 AM I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who occasionally sits up to all hours of the night perusing census data etc... :) Another curious note on the 1900-Census-Lucy mystery: The enumerator was Stanton Richard "Dick" West. who was married to Mildred Ann "Minnie" Taylor. Dick's sister-in-law Emma Taylor was married to Lucy Ann's brother, John Robert Martin. So this was "family" he was recording for the census. It seems like he would know whether Lucy was really dead or not. John Taylor >I found the following > > -------------------------------------- > 1920 Mayo River District, Patrick Co., Va.; ED 126 > p 162, sheet 9A, > Enumerated 3 Feb 1920, visit 141 > Johnnie W. Fulcher Head 57 Wid. Va Va Va Farmer > Grant Son 20 Va Va Va (Looks like William G.) > Mildred Dau 18 Va Va Va (Looks like Lucy) > --------------------------------------- > William G. was born Sept 1899 according to 1900 census > > Lucy was born 1901-2 according to 1910 census. > On 1930 census Lucy was listed as Lucy M. Reynolds > So John's daughter Lucy was Lucy Mildred Fulcher. > > So... Lucy died before 1920 unless she was away from home again. > I guess I agree with Pat Johns, she was away in 1900. Where was she? > She was probably enumerated in someone's household. I couldn't find her in > the 1900 index though. > > In think she probably did die in 1911. > > Randy Crouse McNew > Huntsville, AL > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 5:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Lucy ANN Martin and husband John W. Fulcher > > I found the cemetery records, you refer to, stating that Lucy died in > 1911. > > You will also note that the cemetery is the "John W. Fulcher Cemetery" > and > the record indicates that John and Lucy are on one headstone. Also there > is a > Bedi A. Fulcher, b. 27 Apr 1897; d. 11 Mar 1905 , their daughter. > > The only possible thing would be that the date on Lucy's headstone was > misread and possibly should read 1921. Since it is apparent that Lucy > was > alive > in 1910, the census of 1900 indicates that John was a widower, could have > been > wrong and Lucy may have been in another household taking care of someone, > since the census do not record who should be living there on a certain > date, > but rather who is actually living in the household on that date. > > Pat C. Johns > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/ > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 > http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm > >

Per my gggg grandfather War of 1812 Declaration of Soldier for Pension, Daniel Griffith and Alley Sheradan were married December 27, 1809 at Thomas Hales in Franklin County. Looking at the Hale's listed below and knowing that Daniel and Alley lived in the area of Runnett Bag and Buttermilk Creeks I would guess the Thomas Hale mentioned might be the Thomas B. listed below. Anyone have info on this Thomas B. Hale? Gary Griffith ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Re: [VAFLOYD] New Subscriber Info. > The 1815 Directory of Virginia Landowners (And Gazetteer) Vol 2 abstracted > by Roger G. Ward and published by Iberian Publishing Co., Athens GA in 1997 > lists the following Hales in Franklin County. (“6W” means 6 miles west of the > county seat at Rocky Mount, and so on.) Grouping them by location supports > your suggestion that there were several distinct Hale families in early Franklin > County. > > Hale, George? and Lewis; Pigg RV; 6W. > Hale, Thomas; Pigg RV; 6W. > Taylor, Samuel, and Jos Hale; Pigg RV; 7W. > Hale, Joseph, decd; Pigg RV; 7W. > Hale, Joseph, decd; Pigg RV; 7W. > Hale, John; head Pigg RV; 12SW. > > Hale, Thomas, B son; Runnett Bag CK; 20SW. > > Hale, Jehu; Chestnut CK; 10S. > > Craghead, Peter, heirs, James S Hale claims; ?mouth Bull Run; 18E. > > Hale, John; Gills CK, Maggoty CK; 15NE and 16NE, 12N > Hale, Samuel, and ?Fanie; Indian Run; 20NE. > > Charles Leon Harris > > > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/

I found the following -------------------------------------- 1920 Mayo River District, Patrick Co., Va.; ED 126 p 162, sheet 9A, Enumerated 3 Feb 1920, visit 141 Johnnie W. Fulcher Head 57 Wid. Va Va Va Farmer Grant Son 20 Va Va Va (Looks like William G.) Mildred Dau 18 Va Va Va (Looks like Lucy) --------------------------------------- William G. was born Sept 1899 according to 1900 census Lucy was born 1901-2 according to 1910 census. On 1930 census Lucy was listed as Lucy M. Reynolds So John's daughter Lucy was Lucy Mildred Fulcher. So... Lucy died before 1920 unless she was away from home again. I guess I agree with Pat Johns, she was away in 1900. Where was she? She was probably enumerated in someone's household. I couldn't find her in the 1900 index though. In think she probably did die in 1911. Randy Crouse McNew Huntsville, AL -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 5:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Lucy ANN Martin and husband John W. Fulcher I found the cemetery records, you refer to, stating that Lucy died in 1911. You will also note that the cemetery is the "John W. Fulcher Cemetery" and the record indicates that John and Lucy are on one headstone. Also there is a Bedi A. Fulcher, b. 27 Apr 1897; d. 11 Mar 1905 , their daughter. The only possible thing would be that the date on Lucy's headstone was misread and possibly should read 1921. Since it is apparent that Lucy was alive in 1910, the census of 1900 indicates that John was a widower, could have been wrong and Lucy may have been in another household taking care of someone, since the census do not record who should be living there on a certain date, but rather who is actually living in the household on that date. Pat C. Johns ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== Patrick Co., Va. Genealogy (VaGenWeb) http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric/

Sacrament at Goblintown: They once held all day meetings at Goblintown. I attended one when very small with my grandmother. It was quite a meeting. Preaching was done all day long with different ministers getting up and taking their turns. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Taylor Martin Jr." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: [VAPATRICK] The Show in Stuart, Sacrement in Goblintown - 1900 > I've been transcribing some old family letters. In one letter dated June > 23, 1900, "the Show" in Stuart is mentioned and later "the Sacrament at > Goblintown". Can anyone shed any light on what specific events are being > referred to here? The letter is from my Gr-granduncle Joe Taylor to my > Gr-grandmother Emma Taylor Martin. At the time of this letter Joe is > living in Elamsville as a boarder with William C. Hooker who has a store > in Elamsville. Emma and Robert live about a mile (as the crow flies) > behind the Patrick Springs Hotel toward Bull Mountain. The full > transcription follows. My comments are in brackets... - John Taylor > > Elamsville Va, June 23 [Saturday] 1900 > > Dear Emma, > > I rec'd your letter sometime ago and will try to drop you a few > lines tonight. This leaves me well, hope will find you all the same. The > rain is certainly falling hard now. We have had plenty rain this week. I > was nearly done cutting wheat when the rain set in. Our wheat is good. I > haven't done any work since Thursday, it has rained every day since. I > was looking for Bro John [John S. Taylor] down today, but I guess it > rained too much for him to come. I want to go to the C.H. Tuesday. Maybe > I will get to see Robt there [John Robert Martin, Emma's husband]. Or has > he quit going to court? I guess you all went to the Show at Stuart. I > went over there that day with the wagon but did not have time to go in the > Show. I go to Stuart once every week with the wagon. > > > > Sunday morning. It is still raining and I am afraid my wheat will spoil > in the shack. If I lose my wheat, I can't marry. [Joe never married.] > > > > Sunday night. Emma, I will finish my short letter tonight. I spent most > of the day at Mr Ayers. I got as many May and June apples as I could eat. > The trees are full. Do you remember about eating so many May apples every > summer. Well I guess I will come to see you next Saturday if nothing > happens to me. I want to stay over till Monday so I can get to see all. > I want to see you all so bad. I wish I did live close to you so I could > be with you often. I saw Tim Fulcher yesterday. He passed here and > stopped at the store [the William Hooker store] a while. Well I must > close for tonight. I will find out when Sacrament comes off at Goblintown > and tell you when I come. Write and come soon. Love to all. > > Your Bro, Joe Taylor > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Heritage Book Volumes 1 & 2 > http://www.myvirginiaheritage.com/heritage_books/patrick_county2.htm >

The 1815 Directory of Virginia Landowners (And Gazetteer) Vol 2 abstracted by Roger G. Ward and published by Iberian Publishing Co., Athens GA in 1997 lists the following Hales in Franklin County. (“6W” means 6 miles west of the county seat at Rocky Mount, and so on.) Grouping them by location supports your suggestion that there were several distinct Hale families in early Franklin County. Hale, George? and Lewis; Pigg RV; 6W. Hale, Thomas; Pigg RV; 6W. Taylor, Samuel, and Jos Hale; Pigg RV; 7W. Hale, Joseph, decd; Pigg RV; 7W. Hale, Joseph, decd; Pigg RV; 7W. Hale, John; head Pigg RV; 12SW. Hale, Thomas, B son; Runnett Bag CK; 20SW. Hale, Jehu; Chestnut CK; 10S. Craghead, Peter, heirs, James S Hale claims; ?mouth Bull Run; 18E. Hale, John; Gills CK, Maggoty CK; 15NE and 16NE, 12N Hale, Samuel, and ?Fanie; Indian Run; 20NE. Charles Leon Harris

I found the cemetery records, you refer to, stating that Lucy died in 1911. You will also note that the cemetery is the "John W. Fulcher Cemetery" and the record indicates that John and Lucy are on one headstone. Also there is a Bedi A. Fulcher, b. 27 Apr 1897; d. 11 Mar 1905 , their daughter. The only possible thing would be that the date on Lucy's headstone was misread and possibly should read 1921. Since it is apparent that Lucy was alive in 1910, the census of 1900 indicates that John was a widower, could have been wrong and Lucy may have been in another household taking care of someone, since the census do not record who should be living there on a certain date, but rather who is actually living in the household on that date. Pat C. Johns

I have Gabriel as the son of Edmund Fulcher Sr and Nancy Nowlin. I have Gabriel's wife as Sarah Ann Wood. I don't have who her parents are. John Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fulcher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Lucy Elizabeth Martin and husband John W. Fulcher > Is the "Gabriel Fulcher" mentioned here the son of Edmund Spencer Fulcher > Sr....or is this another Gabriel Fulcher?? If so, who are "Sarah A. > Fulcher's" > parents?? > > MizzKat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 3:27 PM > Subject: Re: [VAPATRICK] Lucy Elizabeth Martin and husband John W. Fulcher > > > I have a question: > > Are Lucy Elizabeth Martin and Lucy Ann Martin one in the same? The > reason I > ask this is my sources indicate the following: "Patrick Co. marriages, > 1875-1900; Eunice B. Kirkman; p. 64....25 Dec 1883, John W. Fulcher, 21, > b. > Patrick Co.; son of Gabriel and Sarah A. Fulcher, married Lucy A. Martin, > 18, b. > Patrick, dau of J & E.A. Martin." > > Pat C. Johns in Va. > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick County Historical Society > http://www.patcovahistory.org/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/05 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/05 > > > ==== VAPATRIC Mailing List ==== > Patrick Co., Va. List Administrator > Barb Stanley > [email protected] > >