This is the MOST excellent USGS site and does include variant names: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=115:1:16109474133249025626 Jan Hensnley -----Original Message----- From: Jane Tressel [mailto:jtressel@rochester.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:43 AM To: VAORANGE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAORANGE] North Anna River Bob, I wonder if you might be able to answer a question that I've had for some time. This is not an Orange Co. question as much as it is a "geographic names" question. I have been looking for a creek in Botetourt Co., VA: Long's Entry Creek. It doesn't appear on contemporary maps nor have I been able to find it on antique maps. Does the U.S. Board of Geographic Names have a data base of defunct geographic names and a locator tool which allows for correct placement of historic names on contemporary maps? Thank you. Jane Tressel On Feb 11, 2006, at 4:05 PM, robertmcartor wrote: > Marsha, as a former Chairman of the U.S. Board on Geographic Names, I > should > tell you that many geographic features bearing such pejorative names as > Negro Run have been renamed. As I have been long retired, I cannot > speak > with authority on that specific run ,but suggest you contact the > Domestic > Names Committee of the Board which is located in Reston, Virginia, > regarding > that. Also, I believe part of Lake Anna is also in Louisa County. > Good > Luck, Bob McArtor > > -------Original Message------- > > From: marsha moses > Date: 02/11/06 15:44:08 > To: VAORANGE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VAORANGE] North Anna River > > I am looking at a land transaction (1743) that talks about the North > Fork of the North Anna River. My Delorme Atlas shows the North Anna > River very clearly as the southern boundary of Orange County. However > in the area from about Gordonsville to due south of Orange (the town of > Orange) it is labeled Negro Run. Then for the rest of the way it is > labeled North Anna. Then it appears that it has been dammed to form a > lake about the time that one reaches Spotsylvania County. It appears > that Pamunkey Creek and Riga Run form other large inputs to the north > and East of the North Anna. I just can't make any sense by looking at > my map of what the North Fork of the North Anna would mean. Even Negro > Run appears to me to run directly into the North Anna as if the River > was just labelled something else in it's western section.... > > Can anyone help me with this? Marsha in WV > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour > aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I had used the USGS site about a year for my search, but with no success. Jan, I do agree that it is an excellent site. Thank you for suggesting it. Jane On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Jan Hensley wrote: > This is the MOST excellent USGS site and does include variant names: > > http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=115:1:16109474133249025626 > > > Jan Hensnley > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Tressel [mailto:jtressel@rochester.rr.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:43 AM > To: VAORANGE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAORANGE] North Anna River > > > Bob, I wonder if you might be able to answer a question that I've had > for some time. This is not an Orange Co. question as much as it is a > "geographic names" question. I have been looking for a creek in > Botetourt Co., VA: Long's Entry Creek. It doesn't appear on > contemporary maps nor have I been able to find it on antique maps. Does > the U.S. Board of Geographic Names have a data base of defunct > geographic names and a locator tool which allows for correct placement > of historic names on contemporary maps? Thank you. > > Jane Tressel > > > > On Feb 11, 2006, at 4:05 PM, robertmcartor wrote: > >> Marsha, as a former Chairman of the U.S. Board on Geographic Names, I >> should >> tell you that many geographic features bearing such pejorative names >> as >> Negro Run have been renamed. As I have been long retired, I cannot >> speak >> with authority on that specific run ,but suggest you contact the >> Domestic >> Names Committee of the Board which is located in Reston, Virginia, >> regarding >> that. Also, I believe part of Lake Anna is also in Louisa County. >> Good >> Luck, Bob McArtor >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: marsha moses >> Date: 02/11/06 15:44:08 >> To: VAORANGE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [VAORANGE] North Anna River >> >> I am looking at a land transaction (1743) that talks about the North >> Fork of the North Anna River. My Delorme Atlas shows the North Anna >> River very clearly as the southern boundary of Orange County. However >> in the area from about Gordonsville to due south of Orange (the town >> of >> Orange) it is labeled Negro Run. Then for the rest of the way it is >> labeled North Anna. Then it appears that it has been dammed to form a >> lake about the time that one reaches Spotsylvania County. It appears >> that Pamunkey Creek and Riga Run form other large inputs to the north >> and East of the North Anna. I just can't make any sense by looking at >> my map of what the North Fork of the North Anna would mean. Even >> Negro >> Run appears to me to run directly into the North Anna as if the River >> was just labelled something else in it's western section.... >> >> Can anyone help me with this? Marsha in WV >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors >> at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour >> aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Thanks, Jan. the information from the site you sent says that the North Fork of the North Anna is a variant name for the Pamunkey Creek. Not what I wanted to hear.....but it does make sense as the map in the back room of the Orange County Historical Society show the land of Joseph and John Hawkins to be located in just the right place for boundaries to be described using that watercourse as a boundary. I am a little disappointed that it shoots my theory....but I am always happy to get accurate information. Thanks so much for sharing with me the website that solved my puzzle. marsha in WV Jan Hensley wrote: >This is the MOST excellent USGS site and does include variant names: > >http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=115:1:16109474133249025626 > > > > > > >