Marth - got your note and am "digesting it." I didn't realize you had so many resources - we live too are away from each other. I've been thinking about buying them for certain articles I've seen and to research when I stop work - but no one else in our family seems interested, so it would be for my and Betsy's entertainment. Anyway, sent these boards, you might be interested in, there are several people who have helped me with info and I've been able to help some also. Just right click on them and add to your address book and they should come up for you. Thiey have all been clean as far as virus in the five years I've been on them. More later - Oh, saw Callie and Catherine H under the Butler's. Probably the articled you told me about, also one on Clarence. CU Henry.