Hi Mike, John Turner died in 1742 and according to his will, purchased the property called Opie's Quarter sometime before then (1742). He bought the property from Rodham Kenner so Rodham Kenner would have been an adult at the time. The Rodham Kenner that you mentioned below was born in 1740 so he would be too young to be the Rodham Kenner mentioned in John Turner's 1742 will. There must have been another Rodham Kenner born sometime prior to about 1720. Can you find one in an earlier generation? Thanks, Pam Michael Gough <mjgough@cablelynx.com> wrote: Pam, I have the following information in my Cralle database (without sources). Could John Turner be the son-in-law of Rodham Kenner? Descendants of Rodham Kenner 1 Rodham Kenner b: 1740 d: 1777 . +________ Davis *2nd Wife of Rodham Kenner: . +Elizabeth Plater b: 1744 d: 1803 ....... 2 Rebecca Kenner ........... +________ Turner ....... 2 Susannah Kenner ........... +________ Thorton Mike Pam Sulzer wrote: >Hello Jane, > I've been doing a little research on the OPIEs and KENNERs of Northumberland in connection with a TURNER family. In the will of JOHN TURNER (d.1742) he bequeaths to his son Henry Turner a tract called OPIES QUARTER "which I bought from RODHAM KENNER". > Can you tell me the location of "Opie's Quarter" and do you have any information that might help me identify this JOHN TURNER? His wife was FEBBIE, his children were: John Jr., Henry, George, Edward, Elizabeth (m. Hayden), Bridget, Monica, Priscilla, and Ann. >Thanks, >Pam > > >Congs@aol.com wrote: >Hello List, > >My Northumberland family is CRALLE, descending from >(Sea Captain) John CRALLE. >My lines include OPIE, MATHEW, KENNER, FOX and BALL >from the Northern Neck area. > >I saw the query on the list about the THOMAS CRALLE. >Even though I do have several by that name, the one who wrote >about him is correct. There are SO MANY Thomas names in that >line that it is very confusing. >In my line, brothers Thomas and John, both named a son Thomas. >They both married the same woman! One married his brother's widow. >She was HANNAH KENNER and was widowed four times (or more?). >My CRALLE line moved to Nottoway County and for a generation or two the name >is also spelled CRAWLEY in that county, but it is the same line. >By the time the name got down to my generation, it was back to CRALLE. The >(French) name is written to this day with an accent over the e, and tombstones >carry the accent also. Some transcriptions have recorded the name as Cralli, >thinking the accent was a sloppy dot over a sloppy i. I don't see the name being >carried on with that misspelling. >Jane >A Virginian living in Florida > > >==== VANORTHU Mailing List ==== >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to > >VANORTHU-L-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains (in the body of the message) the command > >unsubscribe > >and no additional text. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing > > >==== VANORTHU Mailing List ==== >Visit the Northunberland County VAGenWeb Page at; >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vanorthu/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > -- Michael J. Gough mjgough@cablelynx.com ==== VANORTHU Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe. Send a message to VANORTHU-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe and no additional text. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing

Rodham Kenner b. Jan 1, 1716/17 died 1743 mar. Susannah Opie. They were the parents of Rodham Kenner mar. Elizabeth Plater. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Sulzer" <psulzer47@yahoo.com> To: <VANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [VANORTHU-L] Oppie, Kenner, Turner > Hi Mike, > John Turner died in 1742 and according to his will, purchased the property called Opie's Quarter sometime before then (1742). He bought the property from Rodham Kenner so Rodham Kenner would have been an adult at the time. > The Rodham Kenner that you mentioned below was born in 1740 so he would be too young to be the Rodham Kenner mentioned in John Turner's 1742 will. There must have been another Rodham Kenner born sometime prior to about 1720. Can you find one in an earlier generation? > Thanks, > Pam > > > Michael Gough <mjgough@cablelynx.com> wrote: > Pam, I have the following information in my Cralle database (without > sources). Could John Turner be the son-in-law of Rodham Kenner? > > Descendants of Rodham Kenner > > 1 Rodham Kenner b: 1740 d: 1777 > . +________ Davis > *2nd Wife of Rodham Kenner: > . +Elizabeth Plater b: 1744 d: 1803 > ....... 2 Rebecca Kenner > ........... +________ Turner > ....... 2 Susannah Kenner > ........... +________ Thorton > > > Mike > > Pam Sulzer wrote: > > >Hello Jane, > > I've been doing a little research on the OPIEs and KENNERs of Northumberland in connection with a TURNER family. In the will of JOHN TURNER (d.1742) he bequeaths to his son Henry Turner a tract called OPIES QUARTER "which I bought from RODHAM KENNER". > > Can you tell me the location of "Opie's Quarter" and do you have any information that might help me identify this JOHN TURNER? His wife was FEBBIE, his children were: John Jr., Henry, George, Edward, Elizabeth (m. Hayden), Bridget, Monica, Priscilla, and Ann. > >Thanks, > >Pam > > > > > >Congs@aol.com wrote: > >Hello List, > > > >My Northumberland family is CRALLE, descending from > >(Sea Captain) John CRALLE. > >My lines include OPIE, MATHEW, KENNER, FOX and BALL > >from the Northern Neck area. > > > >I saw the query on the list about the THOMAS CRALLE. > >Even though I do have several by that name, the one who wrote > >about him is correct. There are SO MANY Thomas names in that > >line that it is very confusing. > >In my line, brothers Thomas and John, both named a son Thomas. > >They both married the same woman! One married his brother's widow. > >She was HANNAH KENNER and was widowed four times (or more?). > >My CRALLE line moved to Nottoway County and for a generation or two the name > >is also spelled CRAWLEY in that county, but it is the same line. > >By the time the name got down to my generation, it was back to CRALLE. The > >(French) name is written to this day with an accent over the e, and tombstones > >carry the accent also. Some transcriptions have recorded the name as Cralli, > >thinking the accent was a sloppy dot over a sloppy i. I don't see the name being > >carried on with that misspelling. > >Jane > >A Virginian living in Florida > > > > > >==== VANORTHU Mailing List ==== > >How to unsubscribe. Send a message to > > > >VANORTHU-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > >that contains (in the body of the message) the command > > > >unsubscribe > > > >and no additional text. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing > > > > > >==== VANORTHU Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Northunberland County VAGenWeb Page at; > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vanorthu/ > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > -- > Michael J. Gough > mjgough@cablelynx.com > > > > > ==== VANORTHU Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to > > VANORTHU-L-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains (in the body of the message) the command > > unsubscribe > > and no additional text. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing > > > ==== VANORTHU Mailing List ==== > Visit the Northunberland County VAGenWeb Page at; > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vanorthu/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Pam, as a matter of fact I do: Kenner, Rodham b. 23 March 1671; will prov. 21 Aug. 1706, Northumberland Co., son of Richard; m. Hannah Fox, b. 25 July 1671, dau. of Capt. David and Hannah (Ball). 9W(1) 185. Will of Capt. David, dated 22 June 1702, Lancaster Co., proves the marriage. Marriages of Virginia Residents, Vol. II, Part I, p. 86, by Dorothy Ford Wulfeck, GPS 1986 Descendants of Rodham Kenner 1 Rodham Kenner b: March 23, 1670/71 d: 1706 . +Hannah Fox b: July 25, 1671 ....... 2 Hannah Fox Kenner b: August 30, 1695 in Northumberland Co., VA ........... +Richard Hull d: Bef. December 18, 1717 ....... *2nd Husband of Hannah Fox Kenner: ........... +John Harris d: 1718 ....... *3rd Husband of Hannah Fox Kenner: ........... +Thomas Cralle I b: Abt. 1697 d: 1726 in Northumberland Co., VA ....... *4th Husband of Hannah Fox Kenner: ........... +John Cralle b: Abt. 1695 d: Bef. 1758 in Northumberland Co., VA ....... 2 Elizabeth Kenner b: 1700 d: Abt. 1725 ........... +_________ Bushrod ....... *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Kenner: ........... +_________ Vaulx ....... *3rd Husband of Elizabeth Kenner: ........... +________ DeButts ....... 2 Richard Kenner b: 1700 d: Abt. 1725 ........... +Elizabeth Heale ....... 2 Frances Kenner ........... +_________ Garner ....... *2nd Husband of Frances Kenner: ........... +________ Spelman My relation to Rodham is through his daughter Hannah Kenner. Hannah married brothers Thomas and John Cralle. One of these two is my G...grandfather. MIke Pam Sulzer wrote: >Hi Mike, > John Turner died in 1742 and according to his will, purchased the property called Opie's Quarter sometime before then (1742). He bought the property from Rodham Kenner so Rodham Kenner would have been an adult at the time. > The Rodham Kenner that you mentioned below was born in 1740 so he would be too young to be the Rodham Kenner mentioned in John Turner's 1742 will. There must have been another Rodham Kenner born sometime prior to about 1720. Can you find one in an earlier generation? >Thanks, >Pam > > >Michael Gough <mjgough@cablelynx.com> wrote: >Pam, I have the following information in my Cralle database (without >sources). Could John Turner be the son-in-law of Rodham Kenner? > >Descendants of Rodham Kenner > >1 Rodham Kenner b: 1740 d: 1777 >. +________ Davis >*2nd Wife of Rodham Kenner: >. +Elizabeth Plater b: 1744 d: 1803 >....... 2 Rebecca Kenner >........... +________ Turner >....... 2 Susannah Kenner >........... +________ Thorton > > >Mike > >Pam Sulzer wrote: > >>Hello Jane, >>I've been doing a little research on the OPIEs and KENNERs of Northumberland in connection with a TURNER family. In the will of JOHN TURNER (d.1742) he bequeaths to his son Henry Turner a tract called OPIES QUARTER "which I bought from RODHAM KENNER". >>Can you tell me the location of "Opie's Quarter" and do you have any information that might help me identify this JOHN TURNER? His wife was FEBBIE, his children were: John Jr., Henry, George, Edward, Elizabeth (m. Hayden), Bridget, Monica, Priscilla, and Ann. >>Thanks, >>Pam >> >> >>Congs@aol.com wrote: >>Hello List, >> >>My Northumberland family is CRALLE, descending from >>(Sea Captain) John CRALLE. >>My lines include OPIE, MATHEW, KENNER, FOX and BALL >> >>from the Northern Neck area. > >>I saw the query on the list about the THOMAS CRALLE. >>Even though I do have several by that name, the one who wrote >>about him is correct. There are SO MANY Thomas names in that >>line that it is very confusing. >>In my line, brothers Thomas and John, both named a son Thomas. >>They both married the same woman! One married his brother's widow. >>She was HANNAH KENNER and was widowed four times (or more?). >>My CRALLE line moved to Nottoway County and for a generation or two the name >>is also spelled CRAWLEY in that county, but it is the same line. >>By the time the name got down to my generation, it was back to CRALLE. The >>(French) name is written to this day with an accent over the e, and tombstones >>carry the accent also. Some transcriptions have recorded the name as Cralli, >>thinking the accent was a sloppy dot over a sloppy i. I don't see the name being >>carried on with that misspelling. >>Jane >>A Virginian living in Florida >> >> >>==== VANORTHU Mailing List ==== >>How to unsubscribe. Send a message to >> >>VANORTHU-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >>that contains (in the body of the message) the command >> >>unsubscribe >> >>and no additional text. >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Do you Yahoo!? >>New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing >> >> >>==== VANORTHU Mailing List ==== >>Visit the Northunberland County VAGenWeb Page at; >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~vanorthu/ >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > -- Michael J. Gough mjgough@cablelynx.com