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    1. [VANORTHU-L] Turner, Hall, Jones,Garner
    2. Pam Sulzer
    3. Hello, I'm new to the list and collecting information on the people below. Would like to share information with anyone else with knowledge of these people. EDWARD TURNER: Died 1738. Left young children William, Edwin, Mary, John and Elizabeth. LEASURE HALL: wife JOANNA (maybe Lewis). Children: ANN (HALL) LEWIS, MARY (HALL) BAILEY. Brother: ASHTON HALL. Unknown heir: LEWIS HALL. JOHN JONES: WILLIAM GARNER: Uncle to the 5 children of Edward Turner. REBECCA R. GARNER: witnessed Edward Turner's will. JOHN TURNER: witnessed Edward Turner's will. Thanks, Pam --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!

    03/24/2003 12:16:47
    1. Re: [VANORTHU-L] Alabama Archives and records
    2. Indie & Mike Shepp
    3. Hi! What would be the website for this information: Va. to Tn. My Elliott family supposedly moved from North'd. Co., Va. to Sumner, Tn. I have been unable to locate them there. Sincerely, Indie Shepp ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jledford48@cs.com> To: <VANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 9:47 PM Subject: [VANORTHU-L] Alabama Archives and records > This site appears to be helpful in finding my Ledfords who moved from > Virginia to Louisiana with a 10 year stop over in Alabama > > http://www.archives.state.al.us/ > > > > > > > > > > > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/prstrat2k3.html">We tell the story of the people of Alabama . . . by preserving records and > artifacts > of historical value and promoting a better understanding of Alabama history.</A> > > > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/whatsnew/newwing.html"> > Construction continues on the new west wing. more...</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/whatsnew/friends.html">Friends of the Archives</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/ge.html">For Genealogists &Historians</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/ts.html">For Teachers &Students</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/mv.html">For Museum Visitors</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/slo.html">For State &Local Officials</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/aaadah.html">About the Department</A> > > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/aaa.html">About Alabama</A> > > > > > > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/adaguide.html">Information for Visitors with Special Needs</A> > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/sonew.html">What's New</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/site_search.cfm">Search</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/faq.html">FAQ</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/adahindx.html">Site Index</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/feedback.html">Feedback</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/referenc/newform2.html">Reference Request Form</A> > <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/kidspage/kids.html">Kids Page</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/civilwar/index.cfm">Civil War Service Database</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/officials/RDA.html">Records Retention Information</A> > > 624 WASHINGTON AVE. | MONTGOMERY, AL 36130-0100 > PHONE:(334)242-4435 | E-MAIL:<A HREF="mailto:DPENDLET@ARCHIVES.STATE.AL.US">DPENDLET@ARCHIVES.STATE.AL.US </A> > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    03/20/2003 02:59:04
    1. [VANORTHU-L] Alabama Archives and records
    2. This site appears to be helpful in finding my Ledfords who moved from Virginia to Louisiana with a 10 year stop over in Alabama http://www.archives.state.al.us/ <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/prstrat2k3.html">We tell the story of the people of Alabama . . . by preserving records and artifacts of historical value and promoting a better understanding of Alabama history.</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/whatsnew/newwing.html"> Construction continues on the new west wing. more...</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/whatsnew/friends.html">Friends of the Archives</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/ge.html">For Genealogists &Historians</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/ts.html">For Teachers &Students</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/mv.html">For Museum Visitors</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/slo.html">For State &Local Officials</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/aaadah.html">About the Department</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/aaa.html">About Alabama</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/adaguide.html">Information for Visitors with Special Needs</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/sonew.html">What's New</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/site_search.cfm">Search</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/faq.html">FAQ</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/adahindx.html">Site Index</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/feedback.html">Feedback</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/referenc/newform2.html">Reference Request Form</A> <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/kidspage/kids.html">Kids Page</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/civilwar/index.cfm">Civil War Service Database</A> | <A HREF="http://www.archives.state.al.us/officials/RDA.html">Records Retention Information</A> 624 WASHINGTON AVE. | MONTGOMERY, AL 36130-0100 PHONE:(334)242-4435 | E-MAIL:<A HREF="mailto:DPENDLET@ARCHIVES.STATE.AL.US">DPENDLET@ARCHIVES.STATE.AL.US </A>

    03/20/2003 02:47:54
    1. [VANORTHU-L] THRIFT in Richmond County, Virginia
    2. Susan Whittington
    3. Does anyone have a clue as to the identity of this person?? Mariel THRIFT I found her/him in a Richmond County, Virginia Land Tax Book - Washington District 1873: Reuben A. BRYANT Mariel THRIFT 100 acres joins the land of Judy VENEY R.C. HAMMACK P.S. Different Reuben BRYANT than in my last post. Thanks, Sue

    03/07/2003 11:25:17
    1. [VANORTHU-L] THRIFT/BRYANT in Northumberland or Richmond County, Virginia
    2. Susan Whittington
    3. I'm interested in knowing more about this couple: Rueben BRYANT b September 10, 1784 in Northumberland County, VA. He was the son of Jonathan & Elizabeth BRYANT. He married Ann THRIFT in 1804. I think she was the daughter of John & Alice THRIFT. I'm interested in learning more about Reuben BRYANT & Ann THRIFT and would like to connect to anyone having information on them. Thanks, Sue

    03/07/2003 11:16:03
    1. Re: [VANORTHU-L] SB 818 Defeated!
    2. Thanks to all u good present day Virginians for preserving the bits of history that help many of us distant descendants reconstructing our past!! Wish all areas could and would find some way to protect such info - have personally come across places elsewhere that still Have old stuff, but so unkempt cannot access!! - but there is also a problem of money, space and personnel remaining to be solved and in lots of places just rot away, such as an old 1823 Will I finally found original and no book entry of cases, but too deteriorated and became dust just lifting out of old courthouse nook. Solutions needed for problem in permanent info protection in most compacted yet durable ways for future. Hope experts can solve!! We're not into that but have heard rumbling in knowledgeable circles that even CD's will be superceded and eventually no means of reading! Meantime lets save what we can!

    02/26/2003 05:22:00
    1. Re: [VANORTHU-L] Kenner Cralle
    2. Hello Doug, I am a Cralle descendant from the N'land Cralles and have that line from Capt. John Cralle whose will was probated there in 1728 (written in 1726). He had been in N'land at least since 1756. My brother did a lot of our family research and we combined our work to get the full line to our generation. In his work he learned the CApt John, an Englishman of French heritage had run a trade ship in the triangle route England > AFrica> Virginia>England, etc. Capt John married a Virginia girl ANN MATHEW born 1678/79 and they had two sons John, Jr. (2) and Thomas. Hold your hat ...this is good.... John, Jr. married Hannah Kenner Hull, daughter of Rodham KENNER and Hannah Fox and widow of 1Richard Hull 2John Harris 3 Thomas Cralle (Thomas was John's brother). Hannah married T Cralle in 1719 and they had 2 sons, John and Thomas Jr. Hannah married J Cralle in 1729 and they had 5 children, Rodham Kenner Cralle, SR. William Mathew Cralle (my line) b.1739 John Cralle III Mary Cralle KENNER CRALLE The Cralle name is written with an accent on the ''e'' even to this day. In French it had been pronounced Craw-LAY. Some of the Cralle line did spell the name Crawlay with several spelling variations. This was the first KENNER CRALLE, but as you say, there were others who carried the same name. Hannah Kenner, dau of Hannah Fox, was granddaughter of Capt David Fox and Hannah BAll of Lancaster Co, VA. who married in 1670. Hannah BAll was the daughter of Col. William BAll of England and his wife Hannah Atherold. These are also the Ball grandparents of Mary Ball, wife of Augustine Washington and mother of George Washington. KENNER CRALLE (1) and wife Nancy Garlington had a son KENNER W. CRALLE b. Oct 6, 1785 who married Mary Cox in 1824. You wrote I was wondering if anyone was working on Kenner's or Cralle's. My fourth Great Grandfather was Kenner Cralle. He was born in Virginia and married a Delilah Donovan in Kentucky. There are a least 5 Kenner Cralle's Do you have the birth date of your 4G GF, Kenner Cralle? These ancestors shown above are probably of your line. My 4 G GF was the William Mathew Cralle shown above, whose descendants are Richard Kenner Cralle Sr.,. Sallie Monfort Jones A. B Cralle m. M Chappell R. R. Cralle m. M M Edmunds A. E. Cralle m. F Fitzgerald . My grandparents Cousin Jane (nee) Crallé b. Prince Edward County, VA Will anyone else on the list please add further to this info?

    02/20/2003 03:41:13
    1. [VANORTHU-L] SB 818 Defeated!
    2. Debra Rookard
    3. Today is a day of great celebration! The constituency spoke and the Virginia General Assembly heard your voices.Your opinion counted; your letters and emails read and heeded. Democracy is alive and well in Virginia! Please go to the Commonwealth's website and locate those 15 Delegates who voted in the affirmative. If they are from your District, do NOT return them. Write, call, and email them individually, demanding answers for their vote; reminding them that they are your Representatives while they still remain in office. Please stay as vigilant and aware as you have been on this issue. The sponsor of the bill was Senator Tommy Norment, Williamsburg. On behalf of our great grandchildren, thank you! Be sure to document this so they will know what happened here and what you did for them in February 2003. Your individual participation just made you a very important part of VA history. With a glad and grateful heart to all who cared about our future generations, Debra Rookard GenExchange County Coordinator, City of Williamsburg http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?State=va&County=williamsburg At 2:52 PM 19 Feb 2003 Jan Hathcock wrote on VA-HIST@LISTLVA.LIB.VA.US Senate Bill 818, which would have allowed the clerk to destroy a will's file along with the original will after five years have passed, was DEFEATED today in the House of Delegates of the Virginia General Assembly by a vote of 15-Y 81-N. Jan Hathcock Public Relations Officer Library of Virginia 804-692-3592

    02/19/2003 09:16:05
    1. [VANORTHU-L] Kenner Cralle
    2. Douglas and Susan Cralley
    3. I was wondering if anyone was working on Kenner's or Cralle's. My fourth Great Grandfather was Kenner Cralle. He was born in Virginia and married a Delilah Donovan in Kentucky. There are a least 5 Kenner Cralle's from Virginia in the right time frame. From what I have found it seems that all of them have a different story. If anyone knows where my Kenner came from And has Source material I would love to know it. Thank you Very much, Douglas Cralley ----- Original Message ----- From: <VANORTHU-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <VANORTHU-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 3:01 AM Subject: VANORTHU-D Digest V03 #3

    02/15/2003 09:35:18
    1. [VANORTHU-L] Elizabeth Cockrell b 1819
    2. Carol Shrader
    3. I am searching for any information on Elizabeth COCKRELL, b abt. 1819 & her 2nd husband Daniel F. HAYNIE. Their son John Cockrell HAYNIE was born March 21, 1847 and married Mollie F ?. Daniel F. HAYNIE appears to have died 1850 - 1860. I lose Elizabeth after the 1860 census Northumberland Co, VA census when she was married to her 3rd husband Levering Cockrell. There were children in that household from all of their marriages. Does anyone have info on these families? Carol Shrader Virginia Beach, VA

    02/09/2003 01:08:19
    1. [VANORTHU-L] SB 818: getting involved
    2. Pam Wilson
    3. Thanks to Malinda and to Janet Hunter for bringing these issues to our attention, and to Sally and Steve for providing the legislative contact info. I'm the list administrator of EFSS-L@rootsweb.com (Early Families in Southern States), and I've just sent forwarded this information to our 425 list members. Maybe if we use the email channels to get genealogy researchers mobilized, we can stop this destruction. Pam Wilson wilsonpam@mindspring.com Arledge Family History Project

    02/09/2003 02:37:08
    1. [VANORTHU-L] SB818 - Destruction of Will Files
    2. Sally & Steve Gudas
    3. Dear Fellow Researchers: Today I received the email from Malinda informing me about SB818 which has passed the Va. State Senate and is in the Va. House of Delegates in the House Committee on Courts of Justice, its civil law subcommittee. I am forwarding the names and email addresses of all the members of House Courts of Justice Committee in case some of you may wish to share your concerns about SB818. The General Assembly adjourns on February 22nd, so action could possibly be taken over the next week or so by the committee. Here is the text of the bill summary found online at the General Assembly website: "SB818 Patron: Sen. Thomas K. Norment. Jr. Summary as passed Senate: Destruction of will files. Allows the clerk to destroy a will's file along with the original will after 5 years have passed since probate or recordation and allows destruction of originals of instruments which have been recorded and remained unretrieved by the recording party after 6 months, if the documents are no longer of any value and have been microfilmed. " HOUSE COURTS OF JUSTICE COMMITTEE McDonnell, Robert F. (Chairman), R- District 84, from Virgniia Beach, Phone: (804)698-1084, Email: del_Mcdonnell@House.state.va.us Albo, David - R- District 42, from Springfield, Phone: (804)698-1042, Email: del_Albo@house.state.va.us Griffith, Morgan - R - District 8, from Salem, Phone: (804)698-1008, Email: del_Griffith@House.state.va.us Kilgore, Terry -R - District 01, Scott, Wise, from Gate City, Phone: (804)698-1001, Email: del_Kilgore@House.state.va.us McQuigg, Michele - R - District 51, Prince William, Phone: (804)698-1051, Email: del_Mcquigg@House.state.va.us Black, Richard - R -District 32 - Loudoun, Phone: (804)698-1032, Email: Del_Black@House.state.va.us Weatherholtz, Glenn M. R- District 26, from Harrisonburg, Phone: (804)698-1026, Email: del_Weatherholtz@House.state.va.us Hurt, Robert- R - District 16, Pittsylvania, Martinsville, Phone: (804)698-1016, Email: Del_Hurt@house.state.va.us Janis, William - R. - District 56, Goochland, Henrico, Louisa , Phone: (804)698-1056, Email: Del_Janis@House.state.va.us Athey, Clifford - R-District 18, Fauquier, Frederick, Warren, Phone: (804)698-1018, Email: Del_Athey@house.state.va.us Bell, Robert - R. -District 58, Albemarle, Fluvanna, Orange, Green , Phone: (804)698-1058, Email: del_Bell@house.state.va.us Marrs, Bradley P. - R- District 68, Richmond, Chesterfield, Phone: (804)698-1068, Email: Del_Marrs@house.state.va.us McDougle, Ryan - R-District 97, Henrico, Hanover, King and Queen, King William, New Kent, Phone: (804)698-1097. Email: Del_McDougle@house.state.va.us Reese, Gary A. - R- District 67, Fairfax, Loudoun, Phone: (804)698-1067, Email: Del_Reese@house.state.va.us Louderback, Allen L. -R- District 15, Page, Rockingham, Shenandoah,Rappahannock, Phone: (804)698-1015 Email: Del_Louderback@house.state.va.us Almand , James - D - District 47, Arlington , Phone: (804)698-1047, Email: Del_Almand@house.state.va.us Johnson, Jr., Joseph P. - D- District 4, Abingdon , Smyth, Washinton, Bristol, Phone: (804)698-1004 Email: del_Johnson@House.state.va.us Melvin, Kenneth - D-District 80, Chesapeake , Norfolk, Portsmouth, Phone: (804)698-1080 Email: del_Melvin@House.state.va.us Armstrong, Ward - D- District 10, from Martinsville , Phone: (804)698-1010 Email: Del_Armstrong@house.state.va.us Moran, Brian -D-District 46, Fairfax, Alexandria, Phone: (804)698-1046 Email: del_Moran@House.state.va.us Joannou, Johnny - D- District 79, from Portsmouth, Phone: (804)698-1079, Email: no email Barlow, William K. -D - District 64, from Williamsburg, Franklin Isle of Wight, Southampton, Surry, Phone: (804)698-1064, Email: del_Barlow@house.state.va.us Constituent Line Toll Free Number: 1-800-889-0229

    02/08/2003 07:20:16
    1. [VANORTHU-L] RE: SB 818 VA State Legislators
    2. malinda
    3. I this really happening ? If so...is there anyway I can purchase the original wills of my ancestors ? ~malinda jones Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:31 AM To: VA-HIST@LISTLVA.LIB.VA.US Subject: Re: SB 818 VA State Legislators Good Morning, Below is a copy of an email that I sent to the Va-Southside list that has a couple of other emails embedded. I apologize that I don't have time tailor the bill here, but the information I have found is below. Janet Hunter Subj: Re: [VA-SOUTHSIDE-L] Destruction of Wills by the VA State Legislature Date: 2/8/2003 12:39:55 AM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:janethunter703">janethunter703</A> Debra, G. Lee and All, I am pasting in an email I sent to the Lower-Delmarva-Roots list (you know Accomac & Northampton..the counties Edmund Scarborough wanted to separate from colonial VA and make his own personal fiefdom). My remarks re maybe it being okay to torch some of the recent records was meant in jest (well, sort of) In the email below is another one I sent to the Library of Virginia's Va-Roots list, with links to the official websites with information on the bill. I have received a response back from the folks at the Library of VA that they would be meeting on the issue on Monday. In sum: (a)There is a Senate bill SB 818 (see below in full glory); it provides considerable leeway to counties to make decisions on records in my opinion, (b) the sponsor is Thomas Norment, Jr.who represents the 3rd Virginia Senate district (from his website) to wit: Gloucester County (All); James City County (All); New Kent County (All); Newport News City (Part); Williamsburg City (All); York County (Part) See: http://sov.state.va.us/SenatorDB.nsf/be032c3005b9a5bb85256bf3006d57e2/ee7412 81 985e4c5385256aa00071998b?OpenDocument (c) It passsed the Virginia Senate UNANIMOUSLY on Tuesday, February 4. (c) It has been referred to the Virginia House, and is in the Court of Justice Committee there, the Subcommittee on Civil Law IBecause this bill (a) has a legitimate justification in the need of courthouses to deal with storage issues; and (b) DID pass the Virginia Senate unanimously, total opposition to its passage would likely be futile. I think the goal should be to try to amend it to take into consideration the interests of researchers now and in the future (in my humble opinion). The bill as written does seem to give a nod to those of us today researching early Virginia history/genealogy. My opinions are expressed below. This issue has been raised on several lists I am on. A couple in North Caroline (Bertie, Gates) included links to the VA legislators' websites. Despite appearances to the contrary, I am only subscribed to a few VA lists (smile). I only looked at the bill, etc. this morning and am still thinking about it. To be frank, i think we under-estimate the amount of destruction of originals that does take place. When I was at the Benton Co AR Historical Society (iold Peele House in the Walmart parking lot,,,Sam Walton being from Bentonville). a couple of years ago, there were two older women climbing up steps to the attic with boxes, an activity that I'm sure any southern gentlemen, had there been any on the premises, would have stopped. They fell all over themselves helping me (one from the Historical Society, another representative of the Library). As I was to leave I looked straight back from the door and saw two shelves filled with court books. They were early deeds and marriage bonds primarily. I asked about them and was told that the courthouse was about to throw them out, but they took them. With my best regards, Janet Hunter Subj: Re: [LDR] Destruction of Virginia Will Documents Date: 2/7/2003 4:12:41 PM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:janethunter703">janethunter703</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:Laien">Laien</A>, <A HREF="mailto:LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">LOWER-DELMARVA-ROOTS-L@roo tsweb.com</A> I sent the following email to the Va-Roots list administered by the Library of Virginia. I got back a response that (a) most of the staff wasn't in today because of snow, I guess; and (b) they were going to meet and talk about it [Monday, February 10[.. Looking at the bill, given the lack of definition of terms (and follow the link to historical material..doesn't cover it), counties pretty much get to decide what they want and what they don't of the old stuff: Actually, it sounds like they would be more likely to throw out recent things (which would upset researchers 100 years from now), than the old stuff. On the other hand, having second thoughts here, maybe they should throw them out -- it's good that our grandchildren be kept in the dark about our little mis-steps :-) Let them and their cousins argue about how many time their infamous grandpa got arrested for assault or had his license taken away for habitual speeding, or got tipsy and caused a sidewalk disturbance! I know everybody is talking about destruction of wills, but it is the chancery court cases that bother me more. Given the paucity of census information required these days and our mobile society, chancery court divorce cases may be an important source of info on children. The old double-edged sword. Best Regards, Janet Hunter Subj: Pending VA Legislation & Record Destruction Date: 2/7/2003 12:16:49 PM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:janethunter703">janethunter703</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:va-roots@listlva.lib.va.us">va-roots@listlva.lib.va.us</A> Fellow Virginia Researchers and LVA staff in particular: On several Virginia and North Carolina rootsweb email lists there has been discussion and alarm regarding Senate Bill 818, which passed the Virginia Senate unanimously on February 4 and is now before the House. This summary appears at this link. Since it is not a long bill I have pasted it in its entirety at the end: http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?031+sum+SB818 "Summary as passed Senate: <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?031+sum+SB818S">(all summaries)</A> Destruction of will files. Allows the clerk to destroy a will's file along with the original will after 5 years have passed since probate or recordation and allows destruction of originals of instruments which have been recorded and remained unretrieved by the recording party after 6 months, if the documents are no longer of any value and have been microfilmed." There is understanding among list subscribers regarding the origin of the bill and the problems of storage of original documents. However, there is concern that there does not appear to be any "instructions" in the bill (though there may be such in other official committee documents that comprise the legiislative history) encouraging/advising county courts to offer these documents to interested parties, such as local historical societies, libraries, essentially anybody -- not to mention LVA -- before such records are destroyed. I'd think counties could make alot of money simply selling them! I know I'd certainly consider buying several if made available. It would seem as if all of us who have visited courthouses could soon find there would be no purpose in doing so because all of the old documents there could be destroyed. While there is a requirement for microfilming, I believe all of us who have viewed such films know that often it is necessary to return to the originals to puzzle words out, view tops/bottoms cut off, etc. I am interested in commentary from LVA staff as to any thoughts on the bill. Is alarm justified? Are there further moves afoot to amend the legislation in the House? Is passage a "done deal"? If alarm is not justified, (a) will this bill simply advance LVA's collection of all old records, as the NC State Archives do -- does LVA see its staff scooping up such documents before deep sixed?; (b) does this bill reflect the needs of only a select group of counties and the rest would be expected to maintain their old records; and/or (c) other options? Thanks in advance for any comments. Best Regards, Janet Hunter http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?031+ful+SB818 <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?031+sum+SB818">summary</A> | <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?031+ful+SB818+pdf">pdf</A> 030795508 SENATE BILL NO. 818 Offered January 8, 2003 Prefiled January 6, 2003 A BILL to amend and reenact § 17.1-213 of the Code of Virginia, relating to destruction of will files. ---------- Patron-- Norment ---------- Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice ---------- Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia: 1. That § <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+17.1-213">17.1-213 </A> of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows: § <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+17.1-213">17.1-213 </A>. Disposition of papers in ended cases. A. All case files for cases ended prior to January 1, 1913, shall be permanently maintained in hardcopy form, either in the locality served by the circuit court where such files originated or in The Library of Virginia in accordance with the provisions of §§ <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+42.1-83">42.1-83</ A> and <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+42.1-86">42.1-86</ A>. B. The following records for cases ending on or after January 1, 1913, may be destroyed in their entirety at the discretion of the clerk of each circuit court after having been retained for ten 10 years after conclusion: 1. Conditional sales contracts; 2. Concealed weapons permit applications; 3. Minister appointments; 4. Petitions for appointment of trustee; 5. Name changes; 6. Nolle prosequi cases; 7. Law and chancery matters that are voluntarily dismissed, including nonsuits, cases that are dismissed as settled and agreed, cases that are dismissed with or without prejudice, cases that are discontinued or dismissed under § <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+8.01-335">8.01-335 </A> and district court appeals dismissed under § <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+16.1-113">16.1-113 </A> prior to 1988; 8. Misdemeanor and traffic cases, including those which were commenced on a felony charge but concluded as a misdemeanor; 9. Suits to enforce a lien; 10. Garnishments; 11. Executions except for those covered in § <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+8.01-484">8.01-484 </A>; 12. Miscellaneous oaths and qualifications, but only if the order or oath or qualification is spread in the appropriate order book; and 13. Civil cases pertaining to declarations of habitual offender status and full restoration of driving privileges. C. All other records or cases ending on or after January 1, 1913, may be destroyed in their entirety at the discretion of the clerk of each circuit court subject to the following guidelines: 1. All civil and chancery case files to which subsection D does not pertain may be destroyed after twenty 20 years from the court order date. 2. All criminal cases dismissed, including those not a true bill, acquittals and not guilty verdicts, may be destroyed after ten 10 years from the court order date. 3. All criminal case files involving a felony conviction may be destroyed (i) after twenty 20 years from the sentencing date or (ii) when the sentence term ends, whichever comes later. D. Under the provisions of subsections B and C, the entire file of any case deemed by the local clerk of court to have historical value, as defined in § <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+42.1-77"> 42.1-77</A>, or genealogical or sensational significance shall be retained permanently as shall all cases in which the title to real estate is established, conveyed or condemned by an order or decree of the court. The final order for all cases in which the title to real estate is so affected shall include an appropriate notification thereof to the clerk. E. Except as provided in subsection A, the clerk of a circuit court may cause (i) any or all ended records, papers, or documents pertaining to law, chancery, and criminal cases which have been ended for a period of three 3 years or longer, (ii) any unexecuted search warrants and affidavits for unexecuted search warrants, provided at least three 3 years have passed since issued, (iii) any abstracts of judgments, and (iv) original wills and will files, to be destroyed if such records, papers, documents, or wills no longer have administrative, fiscal, historical, or legal value to warrant continued retention, provided such records, papers, or documents have been microfilmed. Such microfilm and microphotographic process and equipment shall meet state archival microfilm standards pursuant to § <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+42.1-82">42.1-82</ A> and such microfilm shall be placed in conveniently accessible files and provisions made for examining and using same. The clerk shall further provide security negative copies of such microfilmed materials for storage in The Library of Virginia. <A HREF="http://leg1.state.va.us/031/lis.htm">Legislative Information System</A> To subscribe, change options, or unsubscribe, please see the instructions at http://listlva.lib.va.us/archives/va-hist.html

    02/08/2003 05:13:42
    1. [VANORTHU-L] Haynie Family
    2. Carol Shrader
    3. I am searching for information on Daniel F. Haynie & his wife Elizabeth Cockrell. Their son John Cockrell Haynie was born March 1847 and married (1st) Mollie F. They are also thought to have sons named George and Tankard. There may have been other children. Does anyone have information on this family? Carol Shrader Virginia Beach, VA

    02/04/2003 12:51:39
    1. [VANORTHU-L] cancel last email from me about email change
    2. Shirley J Tasker
    3. Sorry I decided to keep old email address sjtkr@juno.com, will stay as my email address!!!!!! Shirley

    12/26/2002 08:42:22
    1. [VANORTHU-L] new email address
    2. Shirley J Tasker
    3. sjtkr@maryland.net Thanks Shirley Tasker

    12/26/2002 08:24:41
    1. [VANORTHU-L] local Genealogy Coordinator needed
    2. Bobby Talbert
    3. We are seeking a volunteer genealogy coordinator for Northumberland County. This a great way to be involved from your home and is not time consuming yet very fulfilling---please click on the link below to check out the state site--once there--click on county or city selections--if you see a county or city you would be willing to serve, feel free to click the "ADOPT ME" button--fill in the info--and I will process it immediately--thanks for your time and consideration. With the computer age upon us, almost everything seems like it can be done from home. I do not know if you have had a chance to click on the link below. If not, I hope that you will and then click on the county links. It will show you all available locations that need adopting simply by looking on the right side column. If you see "Adopt Me" then it is available. It is very easy to work from home on almost any site. Many papers are on-line now and have obituaries that can be put on your site. That is a gold mine of info!!!! Also, just pulling out a local phone book, high school annuals, and county sites on the web are all great sources. As a county volunteer, you would be given a special password to access the "Administrators " panel to make any necessary corrections, deletions, and additions that you feel necessary. Only 4 people in the entire country would have that access: the county coordinator, the state coordinator, the National Director & Assistant Director! . Many people may stop and add info on the site but they do not have capabilities to make changes. Simply adding 1 entry a day is a workable goal so you can see it does not demand untold hours and can be maintained without tons of extra effort. As you already know, this opportunity is fun and fulfilling. I even stumbled into pieces of my own family history by helping others in the project. Thanks for considering this opportunity and hope that I will receive your "Adopt Me" form soon. I am able, willing, and eager to help you through the procedures.Thanks for making a difference.. " In the twinkling of an eye he may return"... Bobby Talbert State Coordinator for VAGenExchange.... feel free to visit our project at: http://www.genexchange.org/state.cfm?state=va HELP US KEEP GENEALOGY FREE!!! Contribute....

    12/22/2002 08:16:25
    1. Re: [VANORTHU-L] cemetery links
    2. Sally & Steve Gudas
    3. Thanks for going to the trouble to get this information and pass it on. I am sure it will help someone. . . ----- Original Message ----- From: <Macago@aol.com> To: <VANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: [VANORTHU-L] cemetery links > Hope this helps someone. > > CEMETERY LINKS: Ophelia (Northumberland County) Virginia > By Mary W. Hurst mhurst5@juno.com > > I just returned from visiting friends who recently moved to > Ophelia in Northumberland County, Virginia. On the property next > to theirs is a group of three graves in an area that is becoming > overgrown with brush. We were able to get to the graves and > write down the information on them: > > A. B. COCKRELL > Born Jan. 23, 1823 > Died June 24, 1892 > Gone but not forgotten > > In memory of > Margaret A. > wife of > Ammi B. COCKRELL > Died March 21, 1885 > in the 54th year of her age > > Annie H. > daughter of R. J. GOUGH > Born Aug. 21, 1894 > Died Aug. 23, 1898 > Safe in the arms of Jesus > > The tombstones are in excellent condition, quite readable, and > are not hard to reach. Margaret COCKRELL's tombstone has a > lovely carving of a willow tree and a monument on it. We also > took pictures, which I will be glad to scan and send to anyone > interested. My friend hopes to be able to clean the brush away > from the graves. She has been told there are a few more in the > area, but we did not see any others. > * * * * * > PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles from MISSING LINKS is granted > unless stated otherwise, provided: (1) the reprint is not used > for commercial purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at > the end of the article: Previously published in MISSING LINKS, > Vol. 7, No. 50, 16 December 2002 http://www.petuniapress.com >> > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    12/18/2002 01:35:16
    1. [VANORTHU-L] cemetery links
    2. Hope this helps someone. CEMETERY LINKS: Ophelia (Northumberland County) Virginia By Mary W. Hurst mhurst5@juno.com I just returned from visiting friends who recently moved to Ophelia in Northumberland County, Virginia. On the property next to theirs is a group of three graves in an area that is becoming overgrown with brush. We were able to get to the graves and write down the information on them: A. B. COCKRELL Born Jan. 23, 1823 Died June 24, 1892 Gone but not forgotten In memory of Margaret A. wife of Ammi B. COCKRELL Died March 21, 1885 in the 54th year of her age Annie H. daughter of R. J. GOUGH Born Aug. 21, 1894 Died Aug. 23, 1898 Safe in the arms of Jesus The tombstones are in excellent condition, quite readable, and are not hard to reach. Margaret COCKRELL's tombstone has a lovely carving of a willow tree and a monument on it. We also took pictures, which I will be glad to scan and send to anyone interested. My friend hopes to be able to clean the brush away from the graves. She has been told there are a few more in the area, but we did not see any others. * * * * * PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles from MISSING LINKS is granted unless stated otherwise, provided: (1) the reprint is not used for commercial purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously published in MISSING LINKS, Vol. 7, No. 50, 16 December 2002 http://www.petuniapress.com >>

    12/17/2002 05:30:11
    1. Re: [VANORTHU-L] (VANORTHU-L) Locating Adams Cove In Wicomico Parish, VA
    2. Patt Roach
    3. The William Blackerby who was a witness to the document was my ancestor who lived in Wicomico as well. He must have been a neighbor, or a sort, and on his property his mansion still stands. If you will go to Google.Com and use as a search engine and type in WEST END MANSION, the mansion and its owner and location should come up. I believe that Ezekial Haydon, another signer, was a father in law of William Blackerby's wife, Caty Haydon. If I can be of further help, please let me know. -----Original Message----- From: Jim & Jo Adams <jimjoadams@flash.net> To: VANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com <VANORTHU-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, December 12, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: [VANORTHU-L] (VANORTHU-L) Locating Adams Cove In Wicomico Parish, VA >I would like to visit the location described in this land sale document of 1786. Adams Cove is not shown on modern maps. I suspect it was on the coast line because John Adams owned half interest in a Schooner, > >Please contact me if you can help. > >Thanks, > >Jim Adams >________________________________________________________ > >Lot Adams sold land purchased by his father, John Adams > > > >>From Record Book #13, 1785-1787, Northumberland Co., VA, pages 329-331 > > > >This Indenture made this Twelfth day of November in the year of Our Lord God One thousand seven hundred and eighty six & in the Eleventh year of our Independence ___Between Lot Adams of the County of Northumberland and Parish of Wiccocomaco of the one part & Onesiphorus Harvey of the County & Parish aforesaid of the other part ___Witneseth that the said Lot Adams for and in the consideration of the sum of two hundred pounds current money of Virginia to him in hand paid by the said Onesiphorus Harvey before the Ensealing and Delivery of these presents the Receipt whereof the said Lot Adams hath Granted Bargained and sold aliened enforced and confirmed and by these presents hath grant Bargain sell alein enforced and Confirm unto the said Onesiphorus Harvey of him his Heirs as assigned forever all His the said Adams’s Dimitting Plantation that he now lives on lying & being in the County & Parish Aforesaid & purchased by John Adams deceased Father of the said Lot Adams as will ! >appear by deed of Bargain & sale from Hanes Nicklas dated 1757___and bounded as Followeth beginning at a pine tree Standing on the East side of said Adams Cove A line between the Land of the said Onesiphorus Harvey that he purchased of Joe Hester from thence a line of Marked Trees to a Red Oak Stump a line between Jos. Hurst & the said Sands from thence a line of Marked Trees between Jos. Hurst & said Adams to a corner between Jos. Hurst & said Onesiphorus Harvey’s Plantation from thence A line Marked Trees between said Harvey & Adams to a White Oak in the fork at the head of the said Adams Cove from thence down the said Cove to the beginning Pine Tree containing by Estimation Fifty Acres be the same more or less together with all the appurtenances and priviledges thereunto belonging or any wise appertaining and also the Reversion and Reversions, Remainder and Remainders, Rents, and Levies thereof and also all the Estate Right Title Interest Claim and Demand whatsoever of hi! >m the said Lot Adams of in and to the same premises of in and to every part and parcell thereof To have and to hold the said track or parcel of fifty acres of land above mentioned together with the appurtenances unto the said Onesiphporus Harvey his Heirs and assign to the only proper use and behoof of him the said Onesiphorus Harvey his Heirs and assigns forever and the said Lot Adams for himself his Heirs and assigns doth covenant and grant to and with the said Onesiphorus Harvey his Heirs & assign that he the said Onesiphorus Harvey his Heirs & assign shall & may from time to time and at all times hereafter peaceably and quietly have hold occupy possess and Enjoy all and singular the said premises above mentioned to be hereby granted with the appurtenances without the let Trouble Hindrance Molestation Interuption and Denial of him the said Lot Adams his Heirs and assigns and all and every other person and persons whatsoever Claiming onto Claim by from or under him them o! >r any of them and further that he the said Lot Adams and his Heirs and all and every person and persons and his and their Heirs anything having or claiming in the said prigigles above mentioned or any part thereof by or from or under him Shall and will at all times hereafter at the Reasonable Request and costs of the said Onesiphorus Harvey his Heirs or assigns make so and Execute all and every such further and Other Lawfull and Reasonable Grants acts and assurances in the Law whatsoever for the further better and more perfect granting conveying and assurances of the said premises hereby granted with the appurtenances unto the said Onesiphorus Harvey his Heirs and assigns to the only proper use and bihood of the said Onesiphorus Harvey his Heirs & assigns forever according to the true intent and meaning of these presents and for none other use intent or purpose whatsoever in Witness hereof the said Lot Adams with Nancy his wife hath to these presents Mutually set their hand! >s and affixed their seals the Day and Year first above written. > > > >Signed Sealed & Delivered (signed) Lot Adams (Seal) > > (signed) Nancy Adams (Seal) > >In presence of _____(all signed) > >John May’s; Mary X Hurst (her mark) > >Ezekiel Haydon; Thomas Harding > >William Blackerby; John Sydnor > >Charles Lattimore; Wm. Lattimore > >November 12th 1786 – Memorandum that the within land and premises was this day Delivered by the within Lot Adams & Nancy his wife to the said Onesiphorus Harvey by Trust and Twig in the presence of _____(all signed) > >John Mays; Mary X Hurst (her mark) > >Thomas Harding; William Blackerby > >John Sydnor; Charles Lattimore > >William Lattimore > >November the 12th, 1786 Then Received of Onesiphorus Harvey the within two Hundred pounds Current Money of Virginia I say Rec’d by me ____ > > (signed) Lot Adams > >Witness ___(all signed) > >John May’s; Mary X Hurst (her mark) > >Ezekiel Haydon; Thomas Harding > >William Blackerby; John Sydnor > >Charles Lattimore; Wm. Lattimore > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    12/12/2002 06:08:57