An item I found today, caught my interest, it is from the Norfolk Virginian October 17 1883. The article is entitled OUR HONORED DEAD, It seems that 4 North Carolina Confederates were dug up from Arlington and were being shipped to North Carolina so that they maybe be buried with their families. Now this is what caught my interest. They asked all the confederates to come out and pay their respects AND bring with them a piece of paper with their name and rank and company. So here it is 1883 in between census, and you have a list of all the confederates living, their name, rank and the area where they lived. YAHOO!!! I’m just saying. Partial Article: At an early hour yesterday morning an unaccustomed stir in the city showed that some occurrence of more than ordinary interest was to take place and by 7:30 o’clock the volunteer military, ex confederate Virginia and North Carolina veterans and those of the other states were, together with hundreds and hundreds of citizens, seen weeding their way to the Boston Wharf the contemplated event being the reception as previously announced of the  of the remains of a number of North Carolina ex confederate veterans en route from Arlington to the State of their Birth, there to be laid way along with their honored comrades by the Ladies Memorial Association. The military Veteran and volunteer and a detail of the city police reported to Chief Marshall V.D. Groner and were by him assigned to their respective positions in the forth coming ceremonial. At 8am. The steamer George Leary conveying the remains was seen below Lamberts Point Lighthouse and in according with the program a detail from the Norfolk light artillery blues began to fire minute guns and continued the salute until the boat made fast at the wharf and the remains were transferred: then the refrains and the solemn and martial tribute to the dead was taken up by the Chambers Company of Portsmouth. The caskets four in number were then removed to the hearses, kindly loaned b y our undertakers for the occasion and an opportunity was given the ladies to advance and contrite as they did. Their beautiful offerings of flowers. Each casket bore engraved on a silver plate the names of the dead enclosed, the whole number 107. http://nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/1883-CONFEDERATES-LIST.html   to see the list of confederates see link above Kristina

Hello Everyone, As some of you know I'm working on Indexing City of Norfolk Marriages from 1850-1899. And after watching these shows, who do you think you are on nbc and roots on pbs show. I wanted to share with you according to the shows above a rare event, I may have a few more, when I do a little more checking, but I have 13 African American marriages occurring between 1850-1859. Listed as free persons of color. in the city of norfolk virginia 1850 Frances Jordan to Eliza Givens 1850 William Hamilton to Lelia Mingo 1851 John Owens to Catharine Baker 1851 Joseph church hill to Sarah johnson Harriet Hancock. 1852 william cooper to georgianna stubbs 1852 james tynes to louisa james 1852 james watt to margaret stubbs 1853 joe johnson to martha frances hancock 1854 edward austin to jame callis 1856 james estale to sarah daughter of clementine 1857 henry grey to ann mingo 1858 john barraud to charlotte magagnon 1859 robert meekins to indiana wright if anyone needs an exact date they can email me, 2 have additional info. the rest are just bride and groom. kristina _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/) _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/) _www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com_ (http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/)

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I have a gent named Henry Theodore SMITH, or, Thomas Henry SMITH, or Henry Thomas SMITH, who was born c1835 in Norfolk, Virginia and whose parents were Frederick SMITH and Ellen ALLCOCK. He married Charlotte Frances FRENCH in 1869 in Townsville in Queensland Australia. He died in Townsville in 1896. I don't know anything else about him but would like to find out if the birth details are correct and if he had any siblings. Henry and Charlotte are my paternal great grand parents. Greg

Will you do lookups in your indexes? I am looking for Watts in Portsmouth area, particularly anything on Abraham Watts. On 11/6/2011 8:25 AM, FRMRNYR@aol.com wrote: > > Thinking outside the box when it comes to genealogy according to > newspapers. > I have been attempting to make indexes for several local papers PRIOR to > 1900 and have discovered a few things. > They are an abundance of information, information that you never really > thought of before. > Examples, In addition to the few marriage and obituary notices that were > printed in the newspaper, you will find court proceedings for some of the > major cases going on at the time. I have seen a few Will disputes being listed > also. There are also instances of Estates being sold off. Both of which > would help identifying when an ancestor died in addition to cemetery, > funeral home and obituary notices. > In regards to locating a relative. And just that locating, and no > additional information, I'd like to point out that the post office printed weekly > if not daily in some cases lists of people whom had mail waiting for them at > the post office. I have seen these lists as early as 1827 and in to the > 1880’s. and you don't have to be head of house to get mail either. > I met a woman the other day who was tracing her family through > advertisements which I thought was weird until she explained to me that her ancestor > had owned a hat shop. And every time she closed the shop or changed > locations, she'd tell the public the reason, birth of a child, death of someone > etc. they had a fire or a flood, it was very interesting reading. > Also during this time frame 1860’s forward, the posted court notes, who'd > been arrested for drinking or other minor crimes. Another good source for > locating an ancestor. Later on the gossip is unbelievable, where people > printed when someone came to visit or when someone was going on a trip etc. > I also found an interesting notice in the American beacon& Norfolk and > Portsmouth daily advertiser newspaper the other day and I’m going to go back > and see if there are more, because to some individuals despite the > circumstances they were printed, the actual GENEALOGY information could be > priceless to the right individuals. > It said: $10 reward for a runaway from the subscriber on Sunday Sept > 30th, Negro girl Harriet. She is about 5 ft high, quite black, thick set and > has two or three scars on one of her arms occasioned by being burnt. She is > about 15 years old. She lived in Mr. rosson’s in 1825 and had lived in town > one or two years previous. She has a brother at Mr. a. martin’s and an > aunt at Mr. john palmer’s and 2 sisters the one living at Mr. hatchers and > the other at Mrs. Bowden’s in Norfolk. She has also a grandmother living at > Dr. butt’s in Portsmouth…………. ….. henry Moore > from all this you know how old she is, and that she has other relatives > and their relation to her and where they all lived, > just trying to think outside the box................. > kristina > > _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/_ > (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/) > > _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/_ > (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/) > > _www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com_ (http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- John K. Brown jkbrown2@knology.net "They say that honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defence."

What date / years? and marriage or death? ________________________________ From: John Brown <jkbrown2@knology.net> To: vanorfol@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [VANORFOL] newspapers- genealogy- thinking outside the box. Will you do lookups in your indexes?  I am looking for Watts in Portsmouth area, particularly anything on Abraham Watts. On 11/6/2011 8:25 AM, FRMRNYR@aol.com wrote: > > Thinking outside the box when it comes to genealogy according to > newspapers. > I have  been attempting to make indexes for several local papers PRIOR to > 1900 and have  discovered a few things. > They  are an abundance of information, information that you never really > thought of  before. > Examples, In addition to the few marriage and obituary notices that  were > printed in the newspaper, you will find court proceedings for some of the > major cases going on at the time. I have seen a few Will disputes being listed >  also.  There are also instances of  Estates being sold off. Both of which > would help identifying when an ancestor  died in addition to cemetery, > funeral home and obituary notices. > In  regards to locating a relative. And just that locating, and no > additional  information, I'd like to point out that the post office printed weekly > if not  daily in some cases lists of people whom had mail waiting for them at > the post  office. I have seen these lists as early as 1827 and in to the > 1880’s. and you  don't have to be head of house to get mail either. > I met  a woman the other day who was tracing her family through > advertisements which  I thought was weird until she  explained to me that her ancestor > had owned a hat shop. And every time she  closed the shop or changed > locations, she'd tell the public the reason, birth of  a child, death of someone > etc. they had a fire or a flood, it was very  interesting reading. > Also  during this time frame 1860’s forward, the posted court notes, who'd > been  arrested for drinking or other minor crimes. Another good source for > locating an  ancestor.  Later on the gossip is  unbelievable, where people > printed when someone came to visit or when someone  was going on a trip etc. > I also  found an interesting notice in the American beacon&  Norfolk and > Portsmouth  daily advertiser newspaper the other day and I’m going to go back > and see if  there are more, because to some individuals despite the > circumstances they were  printed, the actual GENEALOGY information could be > priceless to the right  individuals. > It  said: $10 reward for a runaway from the subscriber on Sunday Sept > 30th, Negro girl Harriet. She is about 5 ft high, quite black, thick  set and > has two or three scars on one of her arms occasioned by being burnt. She  is > about 15 years old. She lived in Mr. rosson’s in 1825 and had lived in town > one or two  years previous. She has  a brother at Mr. a. martin’s and an > aunt  at Mr. john palmer’s and 2 sisters the  one living at Mr. hatchers and > the other at Mrs. Bowden’s in Norfolk. She has  also a grandmother living at > Dr. butt’s in Portsmouth…………. ….. henry Moore > from  all this you know how old she is, and that she has other relatives > and their  relation to her and where they all lived, > just  trying to think outside the box................. > kristina > > _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/_ > (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/) > > _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/_ > (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/) > > _www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com_ (http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- John K. Brown jkbrown2@knology.net "They say that honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defence." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thinking outside the box when it comes to genealogy according to newspapers. I have been attempting to make indexes for several local papers PRIOR to 1900 and have discovered a few things. They are an abundance of information, information that you never really thought of before. Examples, In addition to the few marriage and obituary notices that were printed in the newspaper, you will find court proceedings for some of the major cases going on at the time. I have seen a few Will disputes being listed also. There are also instances of Estates being sold off. Both of which would help identifying when an ancestor died in addition to cemetery, funeral home and obituary notices. In regards to locating a relative. And just that locating, and no additional information, I'd like to point out that the post office printed weekly if not daily in some cases lists of people whom had mail waiting for them at the post office. I have seen these lists as early as 1827 and in to the 1880’s. and you don't have to be head of house to get mail either. I met a woman the other day who was tracing her family through advertisements which I thought was weird until she explained to me that her ancestor had owned a hat shop. And every time she closed the shop or changed locations, she'd tell the public the reason, birth of a child, death of someone etc. they had a fire or a flood, it was very interesting reading. Also during this time frame 1860’s forward, the posted court notes, who'd been arrested for drinking or other minor crimes. Another good source for locating an ancestor. Later on the gossip is unbelievable, where people printed when someone came to visit or when someone was going on a trip etc. I also found an interesting notice in the American beacon & Norfolk and Portsmouth daily advertiser newspaper the other day and I’m going to go back and see if there are more, because to some individuals despite the circumstances they were printed, the actual GENEALOGY information could be priceless to the right individuals. It said: $10 reward for a runaway from the subscriber on Sunday Sept 30th, Negro girl Harriet. She is about 5 ft high, quite black, thick set and has two or three scars on one of her arms occasioned by being burnt. She is about 15 years old. She lived in Mr. rosson’s in 1825 and had lived in town one or two years previous. She has a brother at Mr. a. martin’s and an aunt at Mr. john palmer’s and 2 sisters the one living at Mr. hatchers and the other at Mrs. Bowden’s in Norfolk. She has also a grandmother living at Dr. butt’s in Portsmouth…………. ….. henry Moore from all this you know how old she is, and that she has other relatives and their relation to her and where they all lived, just trying to think outside the box................. kristina _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/) _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/) _www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com_ (http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/)

Thanks very much... -----Original Message----- From: KRISTINA DELUISE Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:55 PM To: vanorfol@rootsweb.com Cc: kristina Subject: Re: [VANORFOL] Norfolk Journal & Guide African AmericanNewspaper1921-2003 Free lookup i'll look in the pilot the next time i go to the library. the only spragg item that comes up in the norfolk journal are police matters for an arron spragg who was a police officer. sorry, Kristina From: Teri Batten <tmb54@twcny.rr.com> To: vanorfol@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [VANORFOL] Norfolk Journal & Guide African American Newspaper1921-2003 Free lookup Thank you! Would it be possible to see if there was an obituary for Emma B Spragg died 5/28/1941 - she lived in Norfolk on Woodis. Husband was Samuel Spragg- She is listed in the Forest Lawn Cemetery with a date of 5/28/1941, which I presume was her date of death and not internment. Thank you Teri Batten -----Original Message----- From: FRMRNYR@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:33 AM To: vanorfol-l@rootsweb.com Cc: VAPRINCESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VANORFOL] Norfolk Journal & Guide African American Newspaper1921-2003 Free lookup My time with this paper is limited, due to the time constraints of the project I am working on. But it's too good a resource not to share for a couple of days. This offer will end Sunday August 21. there are over 35,000 references to weddings and obits, and illness reports and invitations to dinner and other social gatherings. I'm going to limit the request to two names. The look up is FREE kristina _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/) _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/) _www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com_ (http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

i'll look in the pilot the next time i go to the library. the only spragg item that comes up in the norfolk journal are police matters for an arron spragg who was a police officer.   sorry, Kristina From: Teri Batten <tmb54@twcny.rr.com> To: vanorfol@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [VANORFOL] Norfolk Journal & Guide African American Newspaper1921-2003 Free lookup Thank you! Would it be possible to see if there was an obituary for Emma B Spragg died 5/28/1941 - she lived in Norfolk on Woodis. Husband was Samuel Spragg- She is listed in the Forest Lawn Cemetery with a date of 5/28/1941, which I presume was her date of death and not internment. Thank you Teri Batten -----Original Message----- From: FRMRNYR@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:33 AM To: vanorfol-l@rootsweb.com Cc: VAPRINCESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VANORFOL] Norfolk Journal & Guide African American Newspaper1921-2003 Free lookup My time with this paper is limited, due to the time constraints of the project I am working on. But it's too good a resource not to share for a couple of days. This offer will end Sunday August 21. there are over 35,000 references to weddings and obits, and  illness reports and invitations to dinner and other social gatherings. I'm going to limit the request to two names. The look up is FREE kristina _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/) _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/) _www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com_ (http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you! Would it be possible to see if there was an obituary for Emma B Spragg died 5/28/1941 - she lived in Norfolk on Woodis. Husband was Samuel Spragg- She is listed in the Forest Lawn Cemetery with a date of 5/28/1941, which I presume was her date of death and not internment. Thank you Teri Batten -----Original Message----- From: FRMRNYR@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:33 AM To: vanorfol-l@rootsweb.com Cc: VAPRINCESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VANORFOL] Norfolk Journal & Guide African American Newspaper1921-2003 Free lookup My time with this paper is limited, due to the time constraints of the project I am working on. But it's too good a resource not to share for a couple of days. This offer will end Sunday August 21. there are over 35,000 references to weddings and obits, and illness reports and invitations to dinner and other social gatherings. I'm going to limit the request to two names. The look up is FREE kristina _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/) _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/) _www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com_ (http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My time with this paper is limited, due to the time constraints of the project I am working on. But it's too good a resource not to share for a couple of days. This offer will end Sunday August 21. there are over 35,000 references to weddings and obits, and illness reports and invitations to dinner and other social gatherings. I'm going to limit the request to two names. The look up is FREE kristina _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/) _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/) _www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com_ (http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/)

_http://www.npl.lib.va.us/smrt/dip_website/browse_documents.html_ (http://www.npl.lib.va.us/smrt/dip_website/browse_documents.html) _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/) _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/) _www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com_ (http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/) respond to nyvagenealogy@yahoo.com as AOL only receives 50% of emails In a message dated 4/16/2011 9:48:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Madyas@aol.com writes: Hi Janie, Thank you for the tip. I will go back to that census page and hit 'next page'....maybe it will give another street name(s) that might also narrow down where James Street. It could very well be the one on your 1960 map; I'm not very familiar with the layout of Norfolk, even though I was born there and have lived in the area all my life! Is your 1960 map (image) posted online, maybe on your genealogy page? Many of the residents on that street, in that 1910 census, are fish merchants or workers, so I was thinking the James Street neighborhood could possibly be near the water, but I need to go back to Mapquest and look at the Norfolk map again. It would also help if I could find a Norfolk city directory for 1905, but not sure if that could be found online. There were so many merchants in Norfolk for that time period, but I am looking for a Jewish Haberdashery in Norfolk, in 1905. I don't have names, so that's why I thought a city directory might help to narrow down the number of Jewish Haberdashers in Norfolk in 1905. Thanks again, Janie! Peggy Dyas In a message dated 4/16/2011 9:13:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jsnevans@cox.net writes: Hi Peggy, There was a James Ave on my 1960 map. Located between NSU and Ingleside. You think this might be it? Janie http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vancgenealogyrecords/Maps/ 1960_street_map2.htm -----Original Message----- From: Madyas@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:58 AM To: vanorfol@rootsweb.com Subject: [VANORFOL] where is James Street Hello, I am researching a 1910 census for a friend and it lists the street as "James Street"; per the census, it is supervisor's district 2, enumeration district 36, ward/beat 3 (part of). I went to Mapquest and could not find a James Street in Norfolk, so maybe the street name changed since 1910. I'm trying to learn what part of Norfolk (neighborhood, etc.) this James Street might have been in. Does this street sound familiar to anyone? Thank you for any suggestions! Peggy Dyas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janie, Thank you for the tip. I will go back to that census page and hit 'next page'....maybe it will give another street name(s) that might also narrow down where James Street. It could very well be the one on your 1960 map; I'm not very familiar with the layout of Norfolk, even though I was born there and have lived in the area all my life! Is your 1960 map (image) posted online, maybe on your genealogy page? Many of the residents on that street, in that 1910 census, are fish merchants or workers, so I was thinking the James Street neighborhood could possibly be near the water, but I need to go back to Mapquest and look at the Norfolk map again. It would also help if I could find a Norfolk city directory for 1905, but not sure if that could be found online. There were so many merchants in Norfolk for that time period, but I am looking for a Jewish Haberdashery in Norfolk, in 1905. I don't have names, so that's why I thought a city directory might help to narrow down the number of Jewish Haberdashers in Norfolk in 1905. Thanks again, Janie! Peggy Dyas In a message dated 4/16/2011 9:13:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jsnevans@cox.net writes: Hi Peggy, There was a James Ave on my 1960 map. Located between NSU and Ingleside. You think this might be it? Janie http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vancgenealogyrecords/Maps/ 1960_street_map2.htm -----Original Message----- From: Madyas@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:58 AM To: vanorfol@rootsweb.com Subject: [VANORFOL] where is James Street Hello, I am researching a 1910 census for a friend and it lists the street as "James Street"; per the census, it is supervisor's district 2, enumeration district 36, ward/beat 3 (part of). I went to Mapquest and could not find a James Street in Norfolk, so maybe the street name changed since 1910. I'm trying to learn what part of Norfolk (neighborhood, etc.) this James Street might have been in. Does this street sound familiar to anyone? Thank you for any suggestions! Peggy Dyas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peggy, There was a James Ave on my 1960 map. Located between NSU and Ingleside. You think this might be it? Janie http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vancgenealogyrecords/Maps/1960_street_map2.htm -----Original Message----- From: Madyas@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:58 AM To: vanorfol@rootsweb.com Subject: [VANORFOL] where is James Street Hello, I am researching a 1910 census for a friend and it lists the street as "James Street"; per the census, it is supervisor's district 2, enumeration district 36, ward/beat 3 (part of). I went to Mapquest and could not find a James Street in Norfolk, so maybe the street name changed since 1910. I'm trying to learn what part of Norfolk (neighborhood, etc.) this James Street might have been in. Does this street sound familiar to anyone? Thank you for any suggestions! Peggy Dyas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am researching a 1910 census for a friend and it lists the street as "James Street"; per the census, it is supervisor's district 2, enumeration district 36, ward/beat 3 (part of). I went to Mapquest and could not find a James Street in Norfolk, so maybe the street name changed since 1910. I'm trying to learn what part of Norfolk (neighborhood, etc.) this James Street might have been in. Does this street sound familiar to anyone? Thank you for any suggestions! Peggy Dyas

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i recently made the following discovery, while indexing the obits and marriages from the norfolk virginian/argus and beacon The first mayor of Norfolk was Samuel Boush appointed by the charter of the borough under date of September 15 1736 in the tenth year of the reign of KING GEORGE the 2nd. Mayor Boush died after serving less than 2 months in office. The second mayor was George Newton elected by the council Nov 18th 1736 and served 7 months. The office of Mayor was elected on June 24th of any given year for a one year term. You could not serve 2 consecutive years. Therefore, if you wanted to serve as mayor for more than one year (which many did, as many as five years) you had to serve in year one, take a year off and then serve again in year three. This scenario played out until John E. Holt’s 3rd term in office in the beginning of 1817 when he found a loop hole in the law. As long as you were not mayor on June 24th, you could be elected mayor. So on June 23rd 1817 he resigned as mayor and James Taylor Served one day in office. Then on June 24th 1817 John E. Holt was elected to his 4th term in office. (He had been mayor in 1808,1815 & beginning of 1817 serving out the end of William Lamb position). Then in 1818, Mr. Holt resigned; Mr. John Tabb served one day in office then John Holt was elected to his 5th term in office. Wright Southgate served one day in 1819, and John Holt was re-elected to his 6th term in office. Wright Southgate served 2 days in 1820, before Mr. Holt was again elected Mayor. It would be interesting to go back in history and talk to Wright Southgate, George Camp, William Lamb,William Armistead, Isaac Talbot and Daniel C. Darraud to find out why they & all the others agreed to serve a week or less in the office of Mayor so Mr. Holt could be re-elected. All in all, Mr. Holt was serving his 20th term as Mayor when he died in 1832 in office. Around his 20th term in office, the office of Mayor became a 2 year position instead of one. And they could be consecutive because Miles King served as mayor from 1832 to 1843. _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaprinc2/) _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/) _www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com_ (http://www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/) respond to nyvagenealogy@yahoo.com as AOL only receives 50% of emails

On 3/14/2011 3:31 PM, Sharon Gable wrote: > You probably already know this, but Abraham Watts wrote his will in Sep 1830 > and it was proved 20 Jan 1831. He did not mention a son named Abraham but > he may not have mentioned all of his children. He mentioned wife Mary, son > George, son Thomas and daughter Judy Foster wife of James Foster. He does > mention "each of my younger children who may be under the age of 15" which > of course wouldn't account for Abraham 1805 either. > > I can tell you there is no guardian bond for Abraham (bc 1805). George in > 1845 left an orphan named Abram but of course he's not yours either but it > does show a strong use of the name in the family. Although Abraham who died > ca 1831 stated he had children under 15 there are no surviving guardian > bonds for them in Norfolk County. > > Sharon Gable > > -----Original Message----- > From: vanorfol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vanorfol-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of jkbrown2@knology.net > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 3:08 PM > To: Norfolk Mail List > Subject: [VANORFOL] WATTS > > I'm looking to connect with anyone researching the Demsey Watts family who > lived in Portsmouth in the late 1700s and early 1800s. Densey Watts, Sr. > had sons William (1760-1822), Abraham (1781- bef. 1831), Thomas (1781-1812) > and Dempsey, Jr. (1774-1841). I am particularly interested in finding more > information on Abraham Watts and in trying to see in Abraham Watts, born > c1805, was part of this family. Any help appreciated. > > Also interested in finding someone local to do courthouse lookups. > > John > > John K. Brown > jkbrown2@knology.net > Sharon, Thank you so much for your reply. I really know almost nothing about Abraham Watts of Portsmouth. I have been trying to find the family of my Abraham Watts, born c1805, who died in Tuscaloosa County, AL. Someone recommended that I look into the Watts of Norfolk and things do seem to fit. Besides Abraham, his son Daniel Henry Watts, my g-g-grandfather, named his first son Dempsey. Abraham married Lucelia Herrin in 1826 in Tuscaloosa County and appeared on the 1830 census age 20-30, so he could have been born 1800-1810. He apparently died about 1860. So my Abraham would have been in Alabama when his father died, so maybe that accounts for his not being mentioned in the will. Maybe I am gasping at straws too. I would love to find something that would prove a connection. Do you know if there was an estate sale or a final settlement of the estate? That should list all the heirs. John -- John K. Brown jkbrown2@knology.net "They say that honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defence."

You probably already know this, but Abraham Watts wrote his will in Sep 1830 and it was proved 20 Jan 1831. He did not mention a son named Abraham but he may not have mentioned all of his children. He mentioned wife Mary, son George, son Thomas and daughter Judy Foster wife of James Foster. He does mention "each of my younger children who may be under the age of 15" which of course wouldn't account for Abraham 1805 either. I can tell you there is no guardian bond for Abraham (bc 1805). George in 1845 left an orphan named Abram but of course he's not yours either but it does show a strong use of the name in the family. Although Abraham who died ca 1831 stated he had children under 15 there are no surviving guardian bonds for them in Norfolk County. Sharon Gable -----Original Message----- From: vanorfol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vanorfol-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jkbrown2@knology.net Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 3:08 PM To: Norfolk Mail List Subject: [VANORFOL] WATTS I'm looking to connect with anyone researching the Demsey Watts family who lived in Portsmouth in the late 1700s and early 1800s. Densey Watts, Sr. had sons William (1760-1822), Abraham (1781- bef. 1831), Thomas (1781-1812) and Dempsey, Jr. (1774-1841). I am particularly interested in finding more information on Abraham Watts and in trying to see in Abraham Watts, born c1805, was part of this family. Any help appreciated. Also interested in finding someone local to do courthouse lookups. John John K. Brown jkbrown2@knology.net "Honesty is the Best Policy, but Insanity is a Better Defense." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANORFOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm looking to connect with anyone researching the Demsey Watts family who lived in Portsmouth in the late 1700s and early 1800s. Densey Watts, Sr. had sons William (1760-1822), Abraham (1781- bef. 1831), Thomas (1781-1812) and Dempsey, Jr. (1774-1841). I am particularly interested in finding more information on Abraham Watts and in trying to see in Abraham Watts, born c1805, was part of this family. Any help appreciated. Also interested in finding someone local to do courthouse lookups. John John K. Brown jkbrown2@knology.net "Honesty is the Best Policy, but Insanity is a Better Defense."