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    1. [VANNORMAN] Double Van Arnam (etc.) family connection
    2. Stephen Wood
    3. Hi! While I was going through records on the net this past week, I stumbled upon the following index to this marriage record. [at: beta.familysearch.org] Hiram M. Van Arman; born Cleveland Ohio; son of Richard H. & Elizabeth Van Arman; to Melissa Daman; daughter of Amos & Elizabeth Daman married 29 May 1862 in Shullsburg, La Fayette, Lafayette County, Wisconsin. Not only was this (first) marriage of Hiram's unknown to myself, as a 1907 writeup in "History of the State of California and biographical record of Oakland and environs" for the Hon. Hiram Miller Van Arman (1839 - 1904) only mentions his widow Isabella Haines, whom he had wed by 1870, but it shed some light on another puzzle that had been around for a number of years. Melissa A. Daman (c1839/40 Illinois - prob. 1881 Illinois) has turned out to likely be a first cousin of Hiram, the daughter of Amos Daman / Damon and Elizabeth "Eliza" Van Arnam (c1800 NY - prob. 1888 Illinois). She was residing as M. Van Arman with her mother in the 1870 census return of Marengo, McHenry County, Illinois, but likely remarried to a Mr. Humphrey sometime prior to the 1880 census when she was [probably] listed with her mother as "Maud" Humphrey. Pete and I believe that Elizabeth is the daughter of Jacob Van Arnam & Catharina Hemstraet, as was Richard H. Van Arman (c1803/6 NY - 1881 CA), the father of Hiram. [FYI - This Jacob is the common ancestor for both Pete and I, but we descend from different wives.] There are several Daman family outlines on Rootsweb's Worldconnect project, but my research appears to differ slightly from what is posted for the children. [I can't connect the 2 eldest sons at the moment, so I won't post their information] Based on the 1830,1840 and later census returns for Amos & Elizabeth Daman, the family appears to consist of the following children: son b. 1821/25 son b. 1821/25 Eliza b. 1825/30 m. Elisha Lamphear Jr. 1843 Ill. Harriet Arvilla b. 1828/29 Ohio m. Amos B. Coon 1846 Ill. Ann C. b. c1831 Ohio m. John Clark 1856 Ill. George Washington b. c1835 MI m.1) Caroline M. Blake 1856 Wis. m.2) Matilda S. Marsh 1890 Neb. Melissa A. [Maud?] b. 1839/40 Ill. m.1) Miller Van Arman 1862 Wis. m.2) Humphrey 187? Here are the two early census returns for Amos & Elizabeth, with corresponding given names as I perceive them to be: 1830 census Leroy township, Geauga County, Ohio - Possible entry Amos Deming 2 males 5-9 ? & ? 1 male 30-39 Amos 2 females under 5 Eliza & "Hattie" 1 female 15-19 ? 1 female 30-39 Eliza ! 1840 census McHenry County, Illinois Amos Daman 1 male 5-9; George W 2 males 15-19; ? & ? 1 male 30-39 Amos 1 female under 5; Melissa A. 1 female 5-9; Ann C. 2 females 10-14; Eliza & "Hattie" 1 female 30-39. Eliza The hunt for additional information goes on..... Stephen

    11/06/2010 04:17:11
    1. Re: [VANNORMAN] Double Van Arnam (etc.) family connection
    2. Linda Schwenn
    3. Just to complicate matters: The familysearch beta has two marriage records for Melissa Daman, same date/place. One to Hiram and the other to Thomas W. Van Orman. (I can see you shaking your head!) Linda On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Stephen Wood <stephe.w300@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > While I was going through records on the net this past week, I > stumbled upon the following index to this marriage record. [at: > beta.familysearch.org] > > Hiram M. Van Arman; born Cleveland Ohio; son of Richard H. & Elizabeth > Van Arman; to Melissa Daman; daughter of Amos & Elizabeth Daman > married 29 May 1862 in Shullsburg, La Fayette, Lafayette County, > Wisconsin. > > Not only was this (first) marriage of Hiram's unknown to myself, as a > 1907 writeup in "History of the State of California and biographical > record of Oakland and environs" for the Hon. Hiram Miller Van Arman > (1839 - 1904) only mentions his widow Isabella Haines, whom he had wed > by 1870, but it shed some light on another puzzle that had been around > for a number of years. > > Melissa A. Daman (c1839/40 Illinois - prob. 1881 Illinois) has > turned out to likely be a first cousin of Hiram, the daughter of Amos > Daman / Damon and Elizabeth "Eliza" Van Arnam (c1800 NY - prob. 1888 > Illinois). She was residing as M. Van Arman with her mother in the > 1870 census return of Marengo, McHenry County, Illinois, but likely > remarried to a Mr. Humphrey sometime prior to the 1880 census when she > was [probably] listed with her mother as "Maud" Humphrey. > > Pete and I believe that Elizabeth is the daughter of Jacob Van > Arnam & Catharina Hemstraet, as was Richard H. Van Arman (c1803/6 NY - > 1881 CA), the father of Hiram. [FYI - This Jacob is the common > ancestor for both Pete and I, but we descend from different wives.] > > There are several Daman family outlines on Rootsweb's Worldconnect > project, but my research appears to differ slightly from what is > posted for the children. [I can't connect the 2 eldest sons at the > moment, so I won't post their information] > > Based on the 1830,1840 and later census returns for Amos & Elizabeth > Daman, the family appears to consist of the following children: > > son b. 1821/25 > son b. 1821/25 > Eliza b. 1825/30 m. Elisha Lamphear Jr. 1843 > Ill. > Harriet Arvilla b. 1828/29 Ohio m. Amos B. Coon 1846 Ill. > Ann C. b. c1831 Ohio m. John Clark 1856 > Ill. > George Washington b. c1835 MI m.1) Caroline M. Blake 1856 Wis. > m.2) Matilda S. > Marsh 1890 Neb. > Melissa A. [Maud?] b. 1839/40 Ill. m.1) Miller Van Arman 1862 Wis. > m.2) > Humphrey 187? > > > Here are the two early census returns for Amos & Elizabeth, with > corresponding given names as I perceive them to be: > > 1830 census Leroy township, Geauga County, Ohio - Possible entry > Amos Deming > 2 males 5-9 ? & ? > 1 male 30-39 Amos > 2 females under 5 Eliza & "Hattie" > 1 female 15-19 ? > 1 female 30-39 Eliza > > ! 1840 census McHenry County, Illinois > Amos Daman > 1 male 5-9; George W > 2 males 15-19; ? & ? > 1 male 30-39 Amos > 1 female under 5; Melissa A. > 1 female 5-9; Ann C. > 2 females 10-14; Eliza & "Hattie" > 1 female 30-39. Eliza > > The hunt for additional information goes on..... > > Stephen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/10/2010 03:50:51