Stephen, I've wrestled with these two before also. I hesitated merging them for two reasons: 1. It seemed unlikely, though possible, that William would be born anywhere but Canada, given the bp of siblings either side. 2. I haven't seen the R initial in William/Eliza Fairfield records. 3. This is an excerpt from the bio of Lyman which states his father died in 1874. The statement that Elmira died 4 years later is proven wrong by the 1880 census. I know from experience that these commemorative "vanity" biographies contain errors. And this is a good example. Though lengthy I've included it all in case there are other clues in it: >From "Commemorative Biographical Record of the Upper Wisconsin Counties: Waupaca, Portage, Wood, Marathon, Oneida, Vilas, Langlade and Shawano" by Chicago: J.H. Beers & Co. 1895 L. M. VANNORMAN, a well-to-do farmer of Larrabee township, Waupaca county, and who was a Union soldier in the war of the Rebellion, was born in 1832, in Onondaga county, N. Y., son of William R. and Elmina (Perrine) Vannorman. William R. Vannorman was born in Massachusetts, his wife in New York. They came to Winnebago county, Wis., in 1852, and settled in Omro village, where he followed the business of butcher and grocer for twenty years or more. His death occurred in Oshkosh, Wis., in 1874, and that of his wife, who survived him four years, in Waushara county, Wis. (Mrs. Vannorman's father, John Perrine, born in New York of Holland ancestry, was in the war of 1812). They reared a family of six children, namely L. M., the subject of this sketch; Oliver, residing in Waukesha county, Wis.; Phedyma, wife of James H. Weston, of Martelle, Jones Co., Iowa; Hattie E., wife of Francis Marion Nash, of Nashville, Vt., who enlisted at Sparta, Wis., in Company I, Seventh Wis. V. I., was discharged for disability,. came home, re-enlisted in April, 1864, in the Seventh Wis. V. I., Company I, served till the close of the war, and was discharged at Madison, Wis.(in 1864, at the battle of the Wilderness, he received a gunshot wound, and was taken to the hospital at Federal Hill, Baltimore, Md.); Ransom S. enlisted.in June, 1861, in Company G, Fifth Wis. V. I., was a member of the Fifth Army Corps, and was killed at the battle of Spottsylvania ; and Abbie L., who was the wife of John Eldred, of Waushara county, Wis., and died in 1888. L. M. Vannorman was reared in New York, and educated in the schools of that State. On December 25, 1851, he was united in marriage with Miss Mary Caroline Daniels, who was born in Oswego county, N. Y., and by their marriage twelve children have been born, as follows: Carmy, residing in Matteson township, Waupaca county; Earl, married, and residing at Clintonville, Waupaca county; Charles, married, and residing at Whitcomb, Shawano county, Wis.; Hannah, the wife of William E. Rice, of Matteson township; Truman ; Cephas A.; Ransom M., and :Tiles. Of this family they have buried three sons Ransom, Carmy and Roy, and one daughter, Cornelia. Mrs. Vannorman's parents, David and Sally (Keller) Daniels, were born in New York, and came in 1859 to Waushara county, Wis., where, in 1865, Mr. Daniels enlisted in the Forty-fourth Wis. V. I., and served till the close of the war. His death occurred at Appleton, Wis., in 1881, that of his wife in 1886, also at Appleton. They had three children: George, who resides at Neillsville, Clark Co., Wis.; Mary Caroline (Mrs. Vannorman); and Cornelia, the widow of Abram Russell, who was in the One Hundred and Tenth N. Y. V. I., and was killed, in 1890, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. . Mr. Vannorman came to Oshkosh, Winnebago Co., Wis., April 29, 1852, then to Omro, in the same county, remained two years, went to Waushara county, and located in the woods near Eureka, where he opened up a farm. On February 22, 1864, at Auroraville, Waushara county, he enlisted in Company I, Seventh Wis. V. I., known as the " Iron Brigade," was mustered into service at Madison, Wis., and assigned to the Fifth Army Corps, Army of the Potomac. He received a gunshot wound at the battle of the Wilderness, was two days in the field hospital, for some time in the hospital at Washington, came home on thirty days' furlough, then returned to the hospital, and in September, 1864, rejoined his regiment at Petersburg, Va. He was at Petersburg, Five Forks, Appomattox, Hatcher's Run, and at the Review at Washington, D. C., was honorably discharged at Louisville, Ky., July 3, 1865, returned to Waushara county, Wis., remaining there till 1881, when he came to Clintonville, and located in Section 13, Larrabee township, on his present farm, which was then all in the woods. Here he owns fifty-four and a half acres of land, now considerably improved. In 1885 he built a good story-and-a-half residence, 16 x 24 feet in the main part, with an L 12 x 18, and in 1887 a barn 24 x 44 feet. In politics Mr. Vannorman is a Republican, has held the office of justice of the peace three times, and has been school clerk and pathmaster He is a member of J. B. Wyman Post No. 32, G, A. R., and has been senior vice. He has seen much of the development of this section of the county. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Stephen Wood <stephe.w300@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > While "playing" with the Civil War Pension records that Linda > shared with us the other day, I was side-tracked for many hours by the > discovery of a couple of marriage records that caught my attention. > > I have asked before about William R. Van Norman, born ca. 1806 in > Massachusetts on this mailing list, as he appeared to have separated > from his first wife Elvira / Almira Perrine, born ca. 1809 NY. In the > 1870 census, he appears in Aurora, Waushara Co., Wisconsin with what > appears to be a new wife Eliza, and [step] daughter Harriet, while his > first wife is listed in the same town enumerated with their daughter > Abbie (Abigail) Eldred and her young family. > > I found a marriage record for a William Vannorman to Eliza Cady > (nee Fairfield) on 21 Nov. 1868 in Green Lake, Wisconsin which matches > the 1870 census information. [plus found 1860 census for Alvin & Eliza > "Cody" with a daughter Harriet the right age] > Found on: beta.familysearch.org - The index to Eliza's 1898 death is also > there. > > The interesting part was that his parents were listed as Jacob & > Lydia Vannorman. > > This has to be Jacob Truman Van Ornum & his wife Lydia Sawyer. The > original information that I had for their son William, has turned out > to be in error, mixed up with William R.'s son Lyman's information. > (so someone had obviously made the connection before me) > > Someone had originally stated that William R's parents were Isaac > & Agnes Van Norman - but I have never uncovered any evidence to this, > and my query to this list brought nothing about his parentage either. > > So, unless someone else has a better idea, I'm now adding William > R. to the Jacob and Lydia (Sawyer) Van Norman / Van Ornum etc. family! > > Stephen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >