http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ Illinois, Van Arnam A few things of interest here, but you need to look at the image for the deed to see some of it: ---James M. and Damon went together on a purchase....and more than once. ---John and John Jr.??? Do you think these are two different people or one? I'm inclined to say two and that John Jr. is our musician. That land had to be sold sometime. A sale date might help reveal how long he lived. ---Anyone know how Daniel Mason fits in with this bunch? Linda

Hi! Interesting material Linda, thanks! James M. and Damon Van Arnam were brothers, sons of Jacob Van Arnam and his 2nd wife Harriet Jones. There are several "unknown" people purchasing land with the Van Arnams - perhaps just others speculating on land with the Van Arnam's???? I couldn't get a "John Jr." to come up as such - just Johns. Were you just asking if there was more than one person named John? Or did you actually get a John Jr. entry? I agree that the musician entry is for a different John than the one who married Chloe... Do you read it that Benjamin Worden purchased in 1850 the land that John Van Arman the musician was granted in 1847? Stephen On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Linda Schwenn <schwel@comcast.net> wrote: > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ > Illinois, Van Arnam > > > A few things of interest here, but you need to look at the image for the > deed to see some of it: > ---James M. and Damon went together on a purchase....and more than once. > ---John and John Jr.??? Do you think these are two different people or one? > I'm inclined to say two and that John Jr. is our musician. That land had to > be sold sometime. A sale date might help reveal how long he lived. > ---Anyone know how Daniel Mason fits in with this bunch? > > Linda >

First, these folks had a lot of money to buy land! To see the Jr. you have to look at the image of the deed itself. That icon is to the left of the name. Those images are the most valuable part of the results for they often include the place of residence at time of purchase and additional info, like the Jr., a middle name that isn't on most other documents, or the name of a co-purchaser. Can't remember exactly but I think 3 of the John Van Arnam ones included the Jr. If those JV, Jr. properties are contiguous and separate from John Van Arnam's, then that would suggest a separate person. Here's info I found to educate myself on warrants: "A bounty land warrant application for a veteran of the Revolutionary War, War of 1812 or the Mexican War will include the individual's rank, military unit and period of service. It will also generally provide his age and place of residence at the time of application. If the application was made by the surviving widow, it will usually include her age, place of residence, the date and place of marriage, and her maiden name." So we know John survived the Mexican war and was alive in 1850. If we had the application we might know his residence at time of application. He applied for the land and then found a buyer, Mr. Worden. I think at least one of John Sr.'s and one of Damon's purchases was of someone else's warrant. Wouldn't the John Jr. be John 1826 the musician? It is curious that he'd sell his land warrant in 1850 but maybe it makes perfect sense if he made money on it or wanted to buy land elsewhere than where the warrant specified, especially if it was poor land. The land is in DeKalb County and if he is the John Jr then he wanted land in Lee County near his relatives. Evidently the warrant specifies a particular piece of property, not take your pick. Benjamin Worden is still in DeKalb in 1860 and 1870 so he must have made a go of it. Thought he might have married a VA but her maiden name was Ferguson so there's no familial connection. Linda On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Stephen Wood <stephe.w300@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Interesting material Linda, thanks! > > James M. and Damon Van Arnam were brothers, sons of Jacob Van Arnam and > his 2nd wife Harriet Jones. There are several "unknown" people purchasing > land with the Van Arnams - perhaps just others speculating on land with the > Van Arnam's???? > > I couldn't get a "John Jr." to come up as such - just Johns. Were you > just asking if there was more than one person named John? Or did you > actually get a John Jr. entry? > I agree that the musician entry is for a different John than the one who > married Chloe... > > Do you read it that Benjamin Worden purchased in 1850 the land that John > Van > Arman the musician was granted in 1847? > > Stephen > > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Linda Schwenn <schwel@comcast.net> wrote: > > > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ > > Illinois, Van Arnam > > > > > > A few things of interest here, but you need to look at the image for the > > deed to see some of it: > > ---James M. and Damon went together on a purchase....and more than once. > > ---John and John Jr.??? Do you think these are two different people or > one? > > I'm inclined to say two and that John Jr. is our musician. That land had > to > > be sold sometime. A sale date might help reveal how long he lived. > > ---Anyone know how Daniel Mason fits in with this bunch? > > > > Linda > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >