Hi! While "playing" more with the indexes to records at beta.familysearch.org, I stumbled across a Vanaernam line that appears to have been much larger than I thought it might be. I was wondering if anyone had additional information on the family of John Vanaernam (etc.) and Elizabeth Winne (ca. 1792/8 NY - 18??) I have 4 children for them to date: Sally b. 1816 [Guilderland?]NY Evert Henry b. 1818 [Guilderland?]NY Kate b. c1830 NY Abraham b. c1838 Albany County, NY I haven't found the family in many census returns, although Elizabeth and her son Abraham / Abram are in Leon, Waushara, Wisconsin in 1860 and Shelby, Blue Earth, Minnesota in 1880. Abram is also in Shelby in 1870 with his new wife Jane, but I can't spot Elizabeth. Abram's sister Kate Quandt, a widow, was with Abram's family in Shelby in 1900. Abram was still in the same town in 1910, and died there 28 April 1912. Abram married Jane Gourley and had 7 children, 6 of them who can be identified through the census returns. Judging by the gaps in the birthdates of John & Elizabeth's children, I am likely still missing many of them - does anyone have a better list of their children? Does anyone have proof of John Vanaernam's parentage? The best bet is Evert & Helena "Lena" (Vrooman) Vanaernam, but I can't prove the connection.... Thanks, Stephen

Re: John and Elizabeth Winne *Baptism Record of Schenectady Reformed Church, 1694-1811 * Baptismal Date: 25 Apr 1787 Father: Evert Van Aarnem Mother: Lenah Vroman Item Number: 6151 Child: Johannes Vroman Sponsor: Hendrik Vroman; Maria Vroman Birth Date: 17 Mar *1850 United States Federal Census-- Indian Lands, Marquette, Wisconsin* Name: Elizabeth Van Eaton Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797 Birth Place: New York Gender: Female Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Van Eaton 53 Jacob Van Eaton 24 Daniel Van Eaton 21 Catharine Van Eaton 18 Moses Van Eaton 17 Abraham Van Eaton 13 Mary Cady/ McCady, son Jacob's future wife, is on the same page 3-4 familes away. I can't explain the surname difference except through enumerator error. The family just above is Van Eaton. Jacob (10 Jun 1827 Albany, NY - 21 Feb 1896 Waupaca Co., WI) m1 Mary M. Cady/McCady (1835 VT - ) 2 ch: Ida 1853 and Albert 1855. m2 Flora Barker Simes (1843 Naples, Maine - 3 Jul 1899 Waupaca Co., WI, m 9 Dec 1875 Waushara Co., WI) Marriage Record Details Name: Vanaernam, Jacob Day: 09 December 1875 County: Waushara Volume: 2 Page: 92 In 1860 he is listed 2 doors from William Gouly 58 farmer Scotland and Jane 63 (he is Abram's father-in-law) Leon, Washaura, WI; Vanaernum, Jacob 34 farmer, Mary 25, female 7, Albert 5 Home in 1880 Mount Morris, Waushara, Wisconsin: Jacob Vanaernam, Flora, Elmer Simes, Hattie Barker Death record: Name: Jacob Van Ornum Gender: Male Burial Date: 26 Feb 1896 Burial Place: Waupaca Death Date: 21 Feb 1896 Death Place: Waupaca Co., Wisconsin Age: 69 Birth Date: 10 Jun 1827 Birthplace: Albany, Ny Occupation: Farmer Race: White Marital Status: Unknown Spouse's Name: Flora S. Van Ornum Father's Name: John Van Ornam Mother's Name: Elizabeth Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B06569-8 System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy Source Film Number: 1311663 Reference Number: pg400 no00989 Collection: Wisconsin Deaths and Burials, 1835-1968 I have nothing on Sally, Daniel or Moses. Didn't know Kate's spouse. Only know Evert Henry m Minna H. and had a dau Francis who died when she was a year old. She's on Find a Grave. Linda Schwenn On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Stephen Wood <stephe.w300@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi! > > While "playing" more with the indexes to records at > beta.familysearch.org, I stumbled across a Vanaernam line that appears > to have been much larger than I thought it might be. > > I was wondering if anyone had additional information on the > family of John Vanaernam (etc.) and Elizabeth Winne (ca. 1792/8 NY - > 18??) > > I have 4 children for them to date: > > Sally b. 1816 [Guilderland?]NY > Evert Henry b. 1818 [Guilderland?]NY > Kate b. c1830 NY > Abraham b. c1838 Albany County, NY > > I haven't found the family in many census returns, although > Elizabeth and her son Abraham / Abram are in Leon, Waushara, Wisconsin > in 1860 and Shelby, Blue Earth, Minnesota in 1880. Abram is also in > Shelby in 1870 with his new wife Jane, but I can't spot Elizabeth. > Abram's sister Kate Quandt, a widow, was with Abram's family in Shelby > in 1900. Abram was still in the same town in 1910, and died there 28 > April 1912. Abram married Jane Gourley and had 7 children, 6 of them > who can be identified through the census returns. > > Judging by the gaps in the birthdates of John & Elizabeth's > children, I am likely still missing many of them - does anyone have a > better list of their children? > > Does anyone have proof of John Vanaernam's parentage? The best > bet is Evert & Helena "Lena" (Vrooman) Vanaernam, but I can't prove > the connection.... > > Thanks, > > Stephen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi! Thank you Linda for all your hard work - I can't believe you had so much information on the family - especially finding that 1850 census return! While searching for Evert's child Francis on Find a Grave (who is listed there as a son by the way), I spotted the record for old John himself, who is listed as follows: John V. Van Aernam, died Oct. 21, 1849, aged 62 years, 7 months, and 4 days. Interred in the Vernon Center Cemetery, Vernon, Waukesha County, Wisconsin. This ties in very nicely with Evert's son's name and date of birth so I'm now convinced we have tied up another loose end of mine. It would also appear that the John Van Arnam in the 1830 census of Guilderland, Albany County, NY is likely this family of John & Elizabeth (Winne), with son Evert Henry not at home when the enumeration took place and one other daughter born ca. 1821/25 whose name we don't yet know. The John "W" Vanorman 1840 census entry in Farmington, Ontario County, NY fits this family perfectly, if you include the one unknown daughter born ca. 1821/25. However, it is also still a good fit for the John Van Aman/Araen?? entry in Pittstown, Rensselaer County, NY, so I'm not completely sure about this one... especially since John & Elizabeth's son Abraham was born in Albany County about 1838, so we can locate them up to that point at least. Well done! Stephen On 11/12/10, Linda Schwenn <schwel@comcast.net> wrote: > Re: John and Elizabeth Winne > > *Baptism Record of Schenectady Reformed Church, 1694-1811 * > Baptismal Date: 25 Apr 1787 > Father: Evert Van Aarnem > Mother: Lenah Vroman > Item Number: 6151 > Child: Johannes Vroman > Sponsor: Hendrik Vroman; Maria Vroman > Birth Date: 17 Mar > > *1850 United States Federal Census-- Indian Lands, Marquette, Wisconsin* > Name: Elizabeth Van Eaton > Age: 53 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797 > Birth Place: New York > Gender: Female > Household Members: Name Age > Elizabeth Van Eaton 53 > Jacob Van Eaton 24 > Daniel Van Eaton 21 > Catharine Van Eaton 18 > Moses Van Eaton 17 > Abraham Van Eaton 13 (snip) > I have nothing on Sally, Daniel or Moses. Didn't know Kate's spouse. Only > know Evert Henry m Minna H. and had a dau Francis who died when she was a > year old. She's on Find a Grave. > > Linda Schwenn

Stephen, I just emailed pension information for Jacob Vanaernam - he definitely fits into this family. Linda N On Nov 12, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Stephen Wood wrote: > Hi! > > While "playing" more with the indexes to records at > beta.familysearch.org, I stumbled across a Vanaernam line that appears > to have been much larger than I thought it might be. > > I was wondering if anyone had additional information on the > family of John Vanaernam (etc.) and Elizabeth Winne (ca. 1792/8 NY - > 18??) > > I have 4 children for them to date: > > Sally b. 1816 [Guilderland?]NY > Evert Henry b. 1818 [Guilderland?]NY > Kate b. c1830 NY > Abraham b. c1838 Albany County, NY > > I haven't found the family in many census returns, although > Elizabeth and her son Abraham / Abram are in Leon, Waushara, Wisconsin > in 1860 and Shelby, Blue Earth, Minnesota in 1880. Abram is also in > Shelby in 1870 with his new wife Jane, but I can't spot Elizabeth. > Abram's sister Kate Quandt, a widow, was with Abram's family in Shelby > in 1900. Abram was still in the same town in 1910, and died there 28 > April 1912. Abram married Jane Gourley and had 7 children, 6 of them > who can be identified through the census returns. > > Judging by the gaps in the birthdates of John & Elizabeth's > children, I am likely still missing many of them - does anyone have a > better list of their children? > > Does anyone have proof of John Vanaernam's parentage? The best > bet is Evert & Helena "Lena" (Vrooman) Vanaernam, but I can't prove > the connection.... > > Thanks, > > Stephen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message