I have a Henry Van Arman b. ca. 1803 in Vermont. In the 1840 census he is living in Chazy. In 1850, 1860, 1870 he is living in Ellenburg, very close to Chazy. In 1850 his wife is listed as Marsha, in 1860 as Nancy, and in 1870 as Mertia. His sons James and Horace died young and are buried in Ellenburg and the headstone reads "sons of Henry and Martia Van Aranam". I have never found Henry and Martia's graves. The date doesn't match with Martia still being alive in 1870, could it be another wife who died earlier? Or does the "M" in "Louisa M" stand for Martia and he married a Nancy later (from the 1860 census)? But then Martia shows up again in 1870. It's just too confusing, but a great find! I suspect this Henry is a brother to lawyer John Van Arman (one of the 14 children mentioned in his bio) and probably descends through Isaac but I cannot prove it (yet!) Laurie Cigan --- On Wed, 5/12/10, Linda Schwenn <schwel@comcast.net> wrote: From: Linda Schwenn <schwel@comcast.net> Subject: [VANNORMAN] Vernornam To: vannorman@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 10:45 AM Anybody have a guess who this Henry is? Several times I have seen this spelling (starts Ver... instead of Van...) as an early variation of the Vanornam name in upstate New York and Vermont. Chazy Landing Cemetery (also known as Saxes Landing Cemetery), Chazy, Clinton County, New York http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~frgen/clinton/chazy/Chazy_Landing.htm VERNORNAM Louisa M. / Wife of / Henry VERNORNAM / Died July 8, 1851, / AE. 22 Y's. / Possible relationships (First one looks like a fit with William G. Vanornam and his wife Marcia/Maria Philips. Second one is, I think, son of Isaac and Julia Jenner): Home in 1850 Chazy, Clinton, New York Family Number: 1291 Wm Vernormum 25 Canada, wheelwright Maria Vernormum 23 Canada Wm Vernormum 3 VT Harvey Vernormum 1 VT Home in 1850: Parishville, Saint Lawrence, New York Household Members: Name Age --all b NY Rachael Jenner 61 Samuel Jenner 33 James Jenner 25 Maria Jenner 23 Isaac Vernorman 8 Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message