Hi Susan, I have not had much time to look as I am "working as a census enumerator". After looking at census for finding my ancestors I find it very interesting to be working on it. I noticed that the name on the Land Warrant appears to be Auria Rufsell, not Ann Russell. So I'm a bit confused. In looking for Auria VanNorman I found her on Ancestry.com including on your family tree - you don't have her connected to any one but show her as born in 1791. Others have her connected to Isaac and Hannah. I could not find Auria Rufsell but did find many other Rufsells. On the Van Orman Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/15448800/person/271454232?ssrc= the owner shows Auria as the 3rd child of Isaac and Hannah. I just found Aurelia VanNorman on your family tree, married to a Russell. Maybe you just added it from your current research, again no parents. I'll keep looking. Arlene Van Orman Family Tree Van Orman Family Tree > From: claimtofame@claggett6.com > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 23:13:32 -0500 > Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Ana VanArnam married to Cornelius Russell > > Hi Pete: > > I am quite sure about my father's line to Isaac Van Orman 1794 who was > married to Cynthia Hatch. My Isaac and Cynthia VN's son William Henry Van > Orman was born in 1832 NY and married Samantha Francis Cornell. Her brother > Watson Cornell married Emma Fish 1845 NY in Michigan. Emma "Emily" Fish > Cornell is living with my William Henry and Samantha Cornell VO in Anderson, > IN in 1900. > > I show Isaac Van Norman born in 1764 Bennington, VT and he was married to > Hannah Brown and his parents are Luykas and Sarah Payne VanArnhem. Do you > agree with this information? > > Lois Van Norman 1809 daughter of Isaac and Hannah Brown VN married Solomon > Olmstead 1790 VT and they moved to Michigan as well. > > Susan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Gonigam [mailto:gonigam@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:39 PM > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Ana VanArnam married to Cornelius Russell > > Are you sure these people all belong together? > Random observations: > > The names Olmstead and Fish are both connected to the families descended > from Abraham (1762) Van Arnam and Hanna Newcomb. A child or grandchild > married into the (fellow pioneer) Olmsteads. The Fish family was part of > the Newcombs or Howlands (her mother's family) I think. In fact, I think > the Balch's connected with the Howlands but I think that was very early in > their line. > > Lawyer John Van Arman had an office in Kalamazoo for a while. He's the one > who had 13 (?) unknown siblings and while I've never found evidence any > followed him to Michigan it wouldn't be surprising if one or more did. He > is probably a great-grandson of Isaac (1704) so neither would it be > surprising to find someone named Isaac associated with him. > > After about 1870 recall that George W. Van Arnam from my line (Jacob 1773) > was present in Barry County. I've never traced the family so I don't know > for how long. > > --pete > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Claggett" <claimtofame@claggett6.com> > To: <vannorman@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 7:02 PM > Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Ana VanArnam married to Cornelius Russell > > > > Hi Linda and all: > > > > I sure could use some help here, LOL. I was working on that same Sarah > > Ann > > and Cornelius Russell until my head started spinning from confusion. I > > figured I would put it down for a few weeks and hopefully be able to > > continue on with finding our missing Auria VN Russell. I think I am ready > > to get back to the puzzle. > > > > As most of you know I feel that my Isaac VN married to Cynthia Hatch is > > the > > son of Isaac and Hannah Brown. I am still trying to prove the > > relationship. > > I have been able to locate all of the siblings listed on the land grant > > except for Auria Russell. > > > > I believe I found Hannah McMurray just a few doors down from her sister > > Lois > > VN Omstead on the 1850 census in Rutland, Barry, MI. Solomon and Lois VN > > Omstead lived at house 559 and Samuel McMurray (Hannah VN's widowed > > husband) > > listed as Samuel McMana on this census lived at house 568. Hannah VN > > McMurray (and her daughter Hannah) died in May of 1850 from Bilus Fever > > which was just a few months before the census but I found her listed in > > the > > mortality schedules. > > > > Another clue I have about the Russell name that might tie in is that Emma > > Fish Cornell (widow of Watson Cornell) who was the brother to my GG > > Grandmother (Samantha Francis Cornell) was living with her sister Sarah > > Jane > > Fish Russell in 1920. These Fish sister's were both living with Sarah > > Jane > > Fish Russell's daughter Maryette Russell Yeoman and husband George P > > Yeoman > > (Youman on this census) in 1920 in Comstock, Kalamazoo, MI. > > > > I found Sarah Jane Fish Russell married to Eli Russell born 1834 on the > > 1860 > > census in Comstock, Kalamazoo, MI. Eli Russell was killed in the civil > > war > > in 1865 in Selma, AL. I could not find them on the 1850 census. > > > > I was thinking Eli Russell may be the son of Cornelius Russell and Auria > > (Sarah Ann) Van Norman Russell? > > > > There is a Sarah Russell born 1803 NY listed on the 1870 census in > > Marcellus, Onondaga, NY. She is living with her probable daughter Jane > > Russell Wells who is married to Warren Wells. They are living next door > > to > > David and Joanna Fish and another Wells family. I think this may tie in > > with the death record of Cornelius Russell in 1866 at the Berrien Cemetery > > that you found. Our Sarah Ann VN Russell must have gone to live with her > > daughter Jane Russell Wells back in NY. The other Wells family look the > > age > > to be the parents of Warren Wells. > > > > What do you all think? I am hopeful... and could use your input. Thanks > > > > Regards, > > > > Susan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Linda Schwenn [mailto:schwel@comcast.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:46 PM > > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Ana VanArnam married to Cornelius Russell > > > > There is a family in 1860 Royalton Twp., Berrien Co., MI, headed by > > Cornelius Russell (1800 NY) and his wife Sarah Ann (1814 NY). This is a > > possibility at least. Their > > "children's" ages are problematic given that the oldest is only 8 yrs > > younger than Sarah Ann, so the enumerator might have mixed siblings in > > with > > children. The Berrien County site has a cemetery record Cornelius for > > Cornelius Russell who died in 1866 age 67. No Sarah Ann listed, nor any > > other family names. I can't find any of them after 1860. Lots of males > > disappear from census records after 1860 due to the war, so it may not be > > surprising to lose many of these Russells by 1870. > > > > Linda Schwenn > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. 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