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    1. Re: [VANNORMAN] Mark VanOrman's buried strong box
    2. Pete Gonigam
    3. And on dark nights in the late Fall it's said his spirit still wanders the canyons of the Owyhee hunting for his lost gold. Here's a succinct account of the VanOrnam/Utter Massacre: http://columbia.washingtonhistory.org/magazine/articles/1987/0187/0187-a3.aspx I've never figured out which line this group was, although the accompanying Utter and Chase families suggest it somehow connects to Isaac (1704) Van Arnam's family. I think my aunt was a little disappointed when I told her we weren't descended from cannibals. --pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Claggett" <claimtofame@claggett6.com> To: <vannorman@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:24 AM Subject: [VANNORMAN] Mark VanOrman's buried strong box > In August of 1860 a group of eight wagons led by Mark Vanorman left Fort > Hall in what is now eastern Idaho under military escort. The fifty four > immigrants were following the Oregon Trail west planning to make a new > life > in the Willamette Valley. They had brought what possessions they could > carry > and enough gold to buy land when they arrived. The gold had been entrusted > to their wagonmaster and was kept in a strongbox. It is believed that > there > was more than $10,000 in gold coin within the chest. > Meeting no resistance, the military escort decided that it was no longer > needed and soon returned to the fort leaving only a handful of soldiers to > guard the pioneers. All went well for two weeks until a band of Snake > Indians attacked them just south of present day Adrian in eastern Oregon > near the Snake River. Nineteen people were killed in the attack. The rest > were forced to abandon their wagons and flee for their lives. While some > of > the men rode for help the other survivors, including Vanorman, made their > way to the Snake River. What little food they had managed to secure was > soon > gone and they were starving as they worked their way along the Snake until > they reached the mouth of the Owyhee River. Here they decided to make camp > until help arrived. > > Initially an Indian hunting party provided the victims with food but an > unfortunate comment turned the Indians against them and they raided the > camp > taking all the remaining guns and ammunition. Vanorman decided that they > had > better move on. Most of the remaining party were too weak and refused to > go. > Vanorman took his family and those able enough to travel and headed north > up > the Snake River. They made it as far as the mouth of the Burnt River where > they were massacred. > > Forty five days after the first attack the soldiers finally arrived at the > Owyhee camp. Twenty one people had died of starvation. The remainder had > resorted to cannibalism to stay alive. Only fifteen of the original fifty > four immigrants survived. > > Okay, so what happened to the gold? Well, months later, in Vanorman's > belongings, a letter was found. In the letter, he described the events > that > had occured and also what had happened to the strongbox. Apparently he had > managed to salvage the gold as they were forced from their wagons during > the > attack. The weak and starving survivors carried the cumbersome box with > them > until they reached the Owyhee River camp. When Vanorman and his family > left > the camp, he took the chest across the Owyhee and buried it on the north > side of the river. He etched his initials into a nearby rock as a marker. > The survivors at the camp must not have known what he had done. > > The lady who received the Vanorman's possessions simply filed the letter > away. It was not rediscovered until her death many years later. This is > not > a well known story and there is no record of the gold ever being found. If > you ever find yourself on the north side of the mouth of the Owyhee River > it > might pay to keep an eye open for the initials M. V. carved in a rock. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/02/2010 12:25:12
    1. Re: [VANNORMAN] Mark VanOrman's buried strong box
    2. Arlene Reeves
    3. Thank you both for sharing. I think I'll take a trip out west and look for the rock! In searching Ancestory.com on Macias Family Tree "jmjustjan" has traced Alexis Van Ornum 1813 – 1860 AND Zacheus Van Ornum 1828 – 1910 (and other family members). Maybe this helps. Arlene Macias Family Tree Jan Derryckssen Birth abt 1593 Dirck Janse VanArnhem (1616-) Jan Dirckszen VanArnhem Birth 13 Oct 1640 Jan Jansz Van Aernam Birth 4 Jun 1671 in New City, Rockland, New York, USA Isaac Jan VanAernam Birth 7 May 1704 Albany, Albany, New York, United States Luykas Van Aarnum Birth 1738-08 in Athens,,New York,USA Hendrick Van Ornum Birth 1769 in Rensselaer, NY Henry Van Ornum Birth 10 JAN 1791 in NY HENRY IS THE FATHER OF Alexis Van Ornum 1813 – 1860 AND Zacheus Van Ornum 1828 – 1910> From: gonigam@hotmail.com > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 06:25:12 -0500 > Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Mark VanOrman's buried strong box > > And on dark nights in the late Fall it's said his spirit still wanders the > canyons of > the Owyhee hunting for his lost gold. > > Here's a succinct account of the VanOrnam/Utter Massacre: > http://columbia.washingtonhistory.org/magazine/articles/1987/0187/0187-a3.aspx > > I've never figured out which line this group was, although the accompanying > Utter and Chase families suggest it somehow connects to Isaac (1704) > Van Arnam's family. > > I think my aunt was a little disappointed when I told her we weren't > descended > from cannibals. > > --pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Claggett" <claimtofame@claggett6.com> > To: <vannorman@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:24 AM > Subject: [VANNORMAN] Mark VanOrman's buried strong box > > > > In August of 1860 a group of eight wagons led by Mark Vanorman left Fort > > Hall in what is now eastern Idaho under military escort. The fifty four > > immigrants were following the Oregon Trail west planning to make a new > > life > > in the Willamette Valley. They had brought what possessions they could > > carry > > and enough gold to buy land when they arrived. The gold had been entrusted > > to their wagonmaster and was kept in a strongbox. It is believed that > > there > > was more than $10,000 in gold coin within the chest. > > Meeting no resistance, the military escort decided that it was no longer > > needed and soon returned to the fort leaving only a handful of soldiers to > > guard the pioneers. All went well for two weeks until a band of Snake > > Indians attacked them just south of present day Adrian in eastern Oregon > > near the Snake River. Nineteen people were killed in the attack. The rest > > were forced to abandon their wagons and flee for their lives. While some > > of > > the men rode for help the other survivors, including Vanorman, made their > > way to the Snake River. What little food they had managed to secure was > > soon > > gone and they were starving as they worked their way along the Snake until > > they reached the mouth of the Owyhee River. Here they decided to make camp > > until help arrived. > > > > Initially an Indian hunting party provided the victims with food but an > > unfortunate comment turned the Indians against them and they raided the > > camp > > taking all the remaining guns and ammunition. Vanorman decided that they > > had > > better move on. Most of the remaining party were too weak and refused to > > go. > > Vanorman took his family and those able enough to travel and headed north > > up > > the Snake River. They made it as far as the mouth of the Burnt River where > > they were massacred. > > > > Forty five days after the first attack the soldiers finally arrived at the > > Owyhee camp. Twenty one people had died of starvation. The remainder had > > resorted to cannibalism to stay alive. Only fifteen of the original fifty > > four immigrants survived. > > > > Okay, so what happened to the gold? Well, months later, in Vanorman's > > belongings, a letter was found. In the letter, he described the events > > that > > had occured and also what had happened to the strongbox. Apparently he had > > managed to salvage the gold as they were forced from their wagons during > > the > > attack. The weak and starving survivors carried the cumbersome box with > > them > > until they reached the Owyhee River camp. When Vanorman and his family > > left > > the camp, he took the chest across the Owyhee and buried it on the north > > side of the river. He etched his initials into a nearby rock as a marker. > > The survivors at the camp must not have known what he had done. > > > > The lady who received the Vanorman's possessions simply filed the letter > > away. It was not rediscovered until her death many years later. This is > > not > > a well known story and there is no record of the gold ever being found. If > > you ever find yourself on the north side of the mouth of the Owyhee River > > it > > might pay to keep an eye open for the initials M. V. carved in a rock. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4

    05/02/2010 12:45:24