Hi! I just noticed that the Netherlands Vital Statistics website www.genlias.nl has transcriptions of the early records of the "Collegiate Church of New York" as they call it and many of our early Van Arnhem etc. records are listed there under various spellings. (with and without the Van Arn(h)*m) It would be interesting to determine if they were taken from copies of records sent "home" near the time of their creation (i.e. - yearly?) or from copies of records sent over in the 1900's or later...... I note a couple of baptisms for children that I didn't have listed - sons of Abraham Van Arn(h)em and Maria Hijningen (etc.) Isaac bpt. 8 Oct. 1729 Jan bpt. 19 May 1736 as well as Abraham 31 October 1739 (who I did have.....) Are these new entries, or was I just missing them...... [The first two are not on any of the VN websites that I can see] Also, the 1671 baptism for Jan lists his parents as Jan Dircxzen van Aernhem and Sara Theunis - so it does appear that Jan Dircxzen (sic) did refer to himself at least once as "van Arnhem"...... although perhaps he was still using it as a place name and not a surname as later children didn't have it..... Food for thought, Stephen