Sorry, translation of marriage record: Source Type: Wedding Book Congregation: Collegiate Church of New York Proclamation: 06/28/1664 Belief: NDG Hometown: New Amsterdam-New York Groom: January Dircksz Hometown groom: Arnhem Bride: Sara Theunisz Hometown wedding: Rotterdam Young Daughter bride: J Previous partner groom: Previous partner bride Further information: The groom is a soldier On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:55 PM, <jroguetech@gmail.com> wrote: > Jan Dirksz Van Arnhem means son of Dirk from Arnhem. In turn, Dirk would > have a patroym (what we today use as last name) would be the same as his > father's first name. Particulairly confusing, since they tended to use the > same names generation after generation, creating an effect of flip-flopping > names. It's possible (completely speculative), but Dirk's father could have > been Jan, and thus be Dirk Jansz, etc. > > They were married Jun 28 1664: > Soort bron: Trouwboek > Kerkgemeente: Collegiate Church of New York > Proclamatie: 28-06-1664 > Gezindte: NDG > Plaats: Nieuw Amsterdam-New York > Bruidegom: Jan Dirckszen > Geboorteplaats bruidegom: Arnhem > Bruid: Sara Theuniszen > Geboorteplaats bruid: Rotterdam > Jongedochter bruid: J > Vorige partner bruidegom: > Vorige partner bruid: > Nadere informatie: De bruidegom is soldaat > > De Trouw with Sara Theunis aboard arrived in Apr 1664. As Pete and I have > argued over, despite being in basic agreement, he would have had to have > been aboard the same ship for her to concieve so quickly after (or during) > the voyage. To assume otherwise would be to assume Dirkjte is not his > daughter, but moreover is needless speculation (as he and I have been > speculating over). > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Susan Claggett < > claimtofame@claggett6.com> wrote: > >> Nevermind on my question below because I just realized the ages won't work >> if our Jan Dircksen was born around 1640. He could not have had 3 >> children >> 15, 8 and 10 months in 1659. So Jan Dircksen from Alckmaer is obviously a >> different person. >> >> But our Jan Dircksen who married Sara Teunis could be at least age wise >> the >> son of Jan Dircksen of Bremen . >> >> My previous question: >> Could our Jan Dircksen be the son of Jan Dircksz from Bremen? Did our Jan >> Dircksen arrive aboard the De Trouw 1659 with his wife and 3 children? >> Did >> his first wife pass away and Jan Dircksen than became engaged to Sara >> Teunis >> and he sent for her and she arrived in 1664 on the De Trouw??? >> >> >> >> DE TROUW (THE FAITH) 1659 >> >> 57 Jan Dircksen (Dircxsen), from Alckmaer >> 58 Mrs. Dircksen (wife) >> 59 - 61 three children Dircksen, ages 3/4, 8 and 15 years >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >