Nevermind on my question below because I just realized the ages won't work if our Jan Dircksen was born around 1640. He could not have had 3 children 15, 8 and 10 months in 1659. So Jan Dircksen from Alckmaer is obviously a different person. But our Jan Dircksen who married Sara Teunis could be at least age wise the son of Jan Dircksen of Bremen . My previous question: Could our Jan Dircksen be the son of Jan Dircksz from Bremen? Did our Jan Dircksen arrive aboard the De Trouw 1659 with his wife and 3 children? Did his first wife pass away and Jan Dircksen than became engaged to Sara Teunis and he sent for her and she arrived in 1664 on the De Trouw??? DE TROUW (THE FAITH) 1659 57 Jan Dircksen (Dircxsen), from Alckmaer 58 Mrs. Dircksen (wife) 59 - 61 three children Dircksen, ages 3/4, 8 and 15 years

Jan Dirksz Van Arnhem means son of Dirk from Arnhem. In turn, Dirk would have a patroym (what we today use as last name) would be the same as his father's first name. Particulairly confusing, since they tended to use the same names generation after generation, creating an effect of flip-flopping names. It's possible (completely speculative), but Dirk's father could have been Jan, and thus be Dirk Jansz, etc. They were married Jun 28 1664: Soort bron: Trouwboek Kerkgemeente: Collegiate Church of New York Proclamatie: 28-06-1664 Gezindte: NDG Plaats: Nieuw Amsterdam-New York Bruidegom: Jan Dirckszen Geboorteplaats bruidegom: Arnhem Bruid: Sara Theuniszen Geboorteplaats bruid: Rotterdam Jongedochter bruid: J Vorige partner bruidegom: Vorige partner bruid: Nadere informatie: De bruidegom is soldaat De Trouw with Sara Theunis aboard arrived in Apr 1664. As Pete and I have argued over, despite being in basic agreement, he would have had to have been aboard the same ship for her to concieve so quickly after (or during) the voyage. To assume otherwise would be to assume Dirkjte is not his daughter, but moreover is needless speculation (as he and I have been speculating over). On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Susan Claggett <claimtofame@claggett6.com>wrote: > Nevermind on my question below because I just realized the ages won't work > if our Jan Dircksen was born around 1640. He could not have had 3 children > 15, 8 and 10 months in 1659. So Jan Dircksen from Alckmaer is obviously a > different person. > > But our Jan Dircksen who married Sara Teunis could be at least age wise the > son of Jan Dircksen of Bremen . > > My previous question: > Could our Jan Dircksen be the son of Jan Dircksz from Bremen? Did our Jan > Dircksen arrive aboard the De Trouw 1659 with his wife and 3 children? Did > his first wife pass away and Jan Dircksen than became engaged to Sara > Teunis > and he sent for her and she arrived in 1664 on the De Trouw??? > > > > DE TROUW (THE FAITH) 1659 > > 57 Jan Dircksen (Dircxsen), from Alckmaer > 58 Mrs. Dircksen (wife) > 59 - 61 three children Dircksen, ages 3/4, 8 and 15 years > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >